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sparks

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #510 on: March 20, 2008, 03:16:55 PM »
    @  Thaelin


     Somewhere it was said that the poor soldiers all had been circumcised the night before.  This must have been to optimise the beat frequency.  Legs apart swaying their inertia from foot to foot.  Human smoke ring pulsating around the walls. :o


poynt99

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« Reply #511 on: March 24, 2008, 03:12:34 PM »
About the unit he pulls from a suitcase--

I am asking for anyone's input as to the coil or winding orientation on this device.

It has been speculated that the greyish bumps seen around the upper and lower perimeters are heavy gauge windings. There are 4 sections of white with some spacing as well. If those bumps are wires, how would or could they be wound/oriented?

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« Reply #512 on: March 24, 2008, 08:20:25 PM »
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About the unit he pulls from a suitcase--

which one is that?  Are you talking about the first unit, that is pulled from a black box and placed on top of the table equipment? and flipped upside down etc...?

EM

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #513 on: March 24, 2008, 08:37:41 PM »
This one.

And he never showed it powering a load...

turbo

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« Reply #514 on: March 24, 2008, 08:40:18 PM »
 :)

haha blurry

turbo

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« Reply #515 on: March 24, 2008, 08:41:50 PM »
 :P

poynt99

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« Reply #516 on: March 24, 2008, 08:53:02 PM »
Yes guys, that's the one.

I'd like to know what that white stuff is that seems to bridge the gaps between the greyish bumps in between, and IF those bumps are wires, how exactly they (the wires/windings) are wound and oriented.

Thanks.

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« Reply #517 on: March 24, 2008, 09:00:50 PM »
The white stuff is probably glu.
This was about his first prototype.
I do not know how it was wired but the coil on top looks like a coil similar to a coil placed on the neck of a crt tube.

I am designing the units in autodesk inventor so i can take it to cnc. :)

M.

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #518 on: July 26, 2008, 04:30:17 AM »
thought i would add this observation about the common-mode choke, and the open OTPU.

from some stills i have it sure looks like there are 2 white wires coming from each "stack" in the OTPU. i am calling the two areas that the magnets sit the "stacks", because not only is the magnet stacked on top of whatever is beneath, but whatever lies beneath looks like it might be made from several stacked layers, maybe not. it even looks like there's a shiny pole piece on top of each stack.

so maybe the common-mode choke was convenient to use simply because it has 2 coils on it. maybe the core does not need to be common to both, just like the 2 separate stacks in the OTPU.

i know wattsup feels he found a toroid coil on the OTPU, but i'm not convinced of this.

the 2 white wires sure does indicate that a coil might be located there. is it white line cord like we see as the collector in the TPU15?

its also a possibility that these two stacks are collector coils. the flux from them would be 90 degrees off from the controls, just like in the LTPU and FTPU.

just a flash i had, probably nothing  :D

innovation_station

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #519 on: July 26, 2008, 03:14:32 PM »
@ marco i have access to 3 cnc mills .....

real nice ones ;D

should you release your designs pub...   i could have them machined easly....  perhaps we could take some core orders....

for the people that cannot build there own....

just a thought...

ist

if you want to talk you know where im at ....



poynt99

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #520 on: August 05, 2008, 04:02:02 AM »
how i believe the OTPU is laid out.

similar to wattsup's.

there are 3 support legs, but i show only two. the 3 legs appear to be wood, with a hole bored out for a core of some type. the hole is not bored through to the top though. the core must be ferromagnetic for the activation magnet to "adhere".

the third back leg is obscured some so a guess is that another coil of some sort is taped up there with green tape. not sure if the core in the leg is being used there.

no collector coil has ever been found, so it must be the red speaker wire. if a 90 degree coil relationship is part of the device modus operandi, this configuration works too.

it's a good bet that the heavier of the two coils is the output coil, and in the OTPU this is the toroidal one.

higher res pics are available if anyone wants them. let me know where the upload link is here.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2008, 04:27:28 AM by poynt99 »

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« Reply #521 on: August 05, 2008, 05:39:57 AM »
doesn't look like anyone wishes to discuss this (old news i guess), but here are the high res uploads anyway:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item104
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=get106
« Last Edit: August 05, 2008, 06:06:58 AM by poynt99 »

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #522 on: August 05, 2008, 02:26:10 PM »
maybe the coils that you refer to as the "kick" coils are the iron delay coils

innovation_station

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #523 on: August 05, 2008, 02:38:20 PM »
@poynt99   if you drew those  verry nice work ....

you must be awafually close in thease drawings i think they are transformers in the legs that have been rewound... to be used as kick producers

but im almost sick of the tpu game to be honest

why dont you just tell us how your toy works.....

ist

in your drawings there is no core in the outter wind would this mean it creates an external magnet feild wich is drawn to the cores of the transformers??  createing a magnetic feedback loop?


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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #524 on: August 05, 2008, 03:25:30 PM »
Nice renderings, Poynt

Makes sense that ferrite rods would have to be protected by an outer cover, they are quite fragile and easily broken if unprotected. The ends of the ferrite rods could couple to the opposing rod and produce a wide magnetic field.

I have no working theory for this device, I can only add that if SM's careful touching of the outer bifilar winding is not a ruse, at least ten amps of current need to pass through the coil (@18ga) to be marginally safe to touch. One amp bulb current would not produce such heating. The outer winding does not seem to make a direct connection to the filter unit so something else must be causing the heating. White wires do seem to connect to the output.

Anyone have a comprehensive workable theory with experimental proofs that they can post in a single pdf?  Marco ? Grumpy? GK? Mannix?

I like the x-ray vision, what program did you use....does it have a steep learning curve?