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wattsup

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #495 on: November 20, 2007, 04:23:24 PM »
@alls

(Had this post ready some time ago but forgot to put it up.)

Regarding the bailing wires, he said the TPU is made of bailing wire.

When you say something is made of something else like;
This battleship is made of plate steel.
This bridge is made of cobblestones.
This cabin is made with 2 by 4s. etc,

When we say this is made of.... we general identify the "basic" structural material that holds up everything else. Yes there could be hundreds of other components, coils, rings, etc., so why say bailing wire. Because the Mtpu and Ltpu were made with bailing wire as its basic structure.

Bailing wire in short vertical lengths would provide the perfect vertical support needed to hold the top and bottom rings apart and in place. Since the center core is soft, imagine all the stress that is exerted by the collector winds going over the top and bottom rings. The soft center core could never support so much stress. Vertical lengths of baling wire plus some horizontal bailing wires would provide this perfect structure that holds up everything else. Plus, baling wire being iron will be a perfect expander or propagator of a magnetic field all the way around the Ltpu. This is the first prerequisite, a magnet. Then create moving wires in this magnetic field with your frequencies and what do you get?

The baling wire structure could be configured to provide north and south pole magnetic fields and at any two points around the tpu. You could have hundreds of these points. The two control coils that are left and right of the zero point could be the coils that produce the magnetism into the baling wire structure.

So having a solid top and bottom ring reminds me again of my guitar. The nut and bridge hold the strings so they can vibrate. The top and bottom Ltpu rings hold the collector turns tightly at these points and this provides loose verticals so they can vibrate.

I think we need to start a new thread only for the cut away images so that the best graphics guys can try and see what there is really shown there. Many have construed stacked coils, etc., and this has sent many on various builds but this would be open for debate.

1) What do you see in the cutaways?
2) How can what you see in the cutaways be in such a way that cutting the tpu and doing some quick re-wiring would permit the TPU to operate again?

These are both great clues.

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #496 on: November 20, 2007, 06:59:28 PM »
 :D
@em
if the wire experiment work's
thats good place to build power plant


« Last Edit: November 21, 2007, 02:06:59 PM by zapnic »

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #497 on: November 22, 2007, 01:50:41 AM »
@all

Hi all.

Just saw this controller on the net from a Canadian company (no duty for me).

Am wondering if this could be a good control device to test coils and other OU research.

http://www.dcitech.com/TriPLC/E/Eintro.htm

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #498 on: November 22, 2007, 02:23:25 AM »
wattsup.

That controller is for controlling industrial devices (typically), and is not meant to switch anything at high rates. One unit has a relay on it already, whereas the other is for driving a relay or small 1A load.

 I doubt that they can be run at high speeds, at least in the range required for ou research. They are designed to control slow switching devices.

One item that is a boon for doing serious electronics-type ou research is a good multi-channel, multi-functional  generator/controller, and they are both very expensive to buy, and difficult to design on your own.


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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #499 on: November 22, 2007, 05:46:35 AM »
@z_p_e

Do you think it could go as high as 6,000, 12,000 or even 67,000 cps.

I mean if this can go as fast as just 6000 cps, I could do many things with it especially if it would permit me to control the 4 pulses on the computer screen.

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #500 on: November 22, 2007, 06:05:45 AM »
Most relays wouldn't be able to switch any faster than 100 Hz, but it all depends on what capabilities they designed in to this controller. It is possible it might be able to go to a few kHz, but I doubt it was designed to do so.

Your best bet would be to download a spec sheet on it (if available), or call them and ask.

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #501 on: December 29, 2007, 02:42:02 AM »
This is as pertinent here as it is in other topics/threads:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2654.msg66696/topicseen.html#msg66696

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #502 on: December 29, 2007, 03:13:52 AM »
Darren,

Free Energy is not something you play around with for a year and if you don't get it it's good bye.

Free energy research is a life long quest, a process of learning to understand nature and find a crack a back door to exploit.

Free energy is a jorney into the unknown, a passion for exaltation over your environment, a decleration that we are human of great potential, we will conquer, we will persevere, not matter the cost.

Free energy is standing in the shadow of the great minds of history, and to carry on their determination .

Free energy ..... [fill in the blanks]    ....   LOL  :)

don't go man, we'll miss you   :'(

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #503 on: December 29, 2007, 03:50:21 AM »
My days of posting here are nearly over.

Did I say I was quitting FE research?

You know me better than that.  :)

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #504 on: December 29, 2007, 05:04:05 AM »
Oh good, it's just TPUology then,  I hear you, it gets useless after a while if you don't experiment. ;)

EM

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« Reply #505 on: March 13, 2008, 05:14:55 PM »
I pulled out this thread from the archives (dusty as hell) cause I think this post would fit well and maybe ressurect it for more discussions.

I am now back on Erfinders Challenge build in The Tesla Project thread, but, here is something curious that may interest the SM crowd. Since I have been starting this project, my battery has gradually gone down in voltage due to lots of tests. So much so that the battery around 8.4 volts was not strong enough to make the relay pulse action. I don't know why, but I just took a small Neo magnet and placed in on the relay plastic cover over the coil. Nothing happened. Then I slid the magnet a bit so it was more over the switching poles and hey, it started to pulse again and the secondary voltage started to go back up again. Voltage off the battery was around 7.6 much lower then the relay requirment.

OK so I took the same relay and connected it directly to my DC power supply (not a battery) and found that at 8.8 volts, the relay would stop pulsing. I put my magnet at the same location and nothing, still dead. It would not work with a straight power supply but it would work with the relay in the complete EC primary circuit. And funny thing, when I turned the magnet over to the other pole, it would not work.

So why is it doing this with the EC circuit. What I am thinking is even though the battery is too low to run the relay, there is enough power to enter the relay coil then energize the choke which is after the relay coil and between the choke and the battery, the relay coil was held in a suspended or well balanced level and all it took was this magnet to make it oscillate with lower voltage then it would normally require.

Part of the energy used in a relay coil is required to first magnetise the coil itself and the surplus energy would then be enough to draw in the contact. So what if the magnet was used to simply provide the initial magnetisation of the relay coil so it could pulse with lower voltage source. Sounds crazy, ok, but SM had to start his system with some very very low power. Notice on the OTPU his two magnets went on those two coils. This would save alot of electrical energy to bring those coils to a level of magnetism on their own. Those magnets were chosen to give just enough field strength to keep the coil in a semi-energised suspended state so that a small electrical current available from some small batteries was enough to turn it over and get the process started.

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #506 on: March 13, 2008, 11:42:46 PM »
And what happens when SM flipped his tpu's? The wrong polarity I suppose? ;D

Wonderful data wattsup.

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #507 on: March 14, 2008, 03:28:43 AM »
The energy usage on this planet is about to undergo a radical change.  That's at least the feeling I had tonight as I watched video after video on youtube about  magnetic motors, hot water heaters,  Troy Reed, EBM in Bulgaria, Albany Fire department installation of a cavitation heater claiming overunity, Peter Davey ultrasonic water boiler,  Timoty Thrapp self running motor and ultrasonic hot water heater, etc.. etc.. etc...  simply amazing!!!

The magic of the internet is starting to transform and reach millions.  More people are reached than ever before.  I see more and more educated folks being curious and asking questions.    Have we been ASSUMING it's impossible all along?

Beware of ASSUMPTIONS !!!!!

EM

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #508 on: March 14, 2008, 03:42:23 AM »
@EM

  Thanks for the below post.  A voice of hope amongst all the desperation.  It's all about vibration.  Create enough inertia in the right frames and the old energy collector herself will give it up. 

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #509 on: March 20, 2008, 02:33:34 PM »
   And they marched in perfect step around and around the wall and they came tumbleing down.  Great human powered oscilator in early history. Must have been a lot marching tho.

thaelin