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Offline wattsup

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #270 on: October 15, 2007, 05:04:54 PM »
Here's another question but regarding simple pulsing.

If you had a small battery connected to a silent type integrated relay, is there way to make the relay latch, but when it latches it cuts the current to the relay to unlatch, but when it unlatches, it re-connects the current to the relay to latch, etc., etc.

Do you think this could happen 6000 times per second?
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Offline innovation_station

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #271 on: October 15, 2007, 05:12:51 PM »
i think you can do that but i dont think that is how the tpu operates  :) but if you do this you can harness the spike or the bemf with some diodes and a cap  with ground source for coil   as cap ground source as well   ;)

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #272 on: October 15, 2007, 09:46:45 PM »
Quote from: wattsup on October 15, 2007, 05:04:54 PM

Do you think this could happen 6000 times per second?


Hi i think this could happen as fast as today's technology allows.
and i also think this is MUCH higher then the 6Khz you mention.
what did you have in mind?
M.
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Offline MACEDONIA CD

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #273 on: October 16, 2007, 02:15:32 AM »
hi
ABOUT 6000Hz   IF YOU LOOK ANTHER WAY  FOR THIS 6000HZ  IMAGEN THAT LIKE YOU PUT ONE SINGLE DC IN ONE SEC.  AND YOU HAVE MOVMENT 6000 TIME LEFT  AND RIGHT MUVMENT OF ELK. MGNET FILD JUST ONE  HALF SEC
JUST ONE SEC ...THAT WHILL BE MORE THEN YOU PUT IN ENERGY IN ONE SECOND
THIS 6000 HZ  IS JUST MUVMENT OR I DONT HOW TO TEL L AND EXPLANE
JUST LIKE   
IF YOU HAVE 50Hz  IN THE IN  THEN IN THE OUT YOU HAVE THE SAME 50Hz   look
IF YOU HAVE 1 let say 1 hz <<KICK>> and WHIT THIS  YOU HAVE OUT OF 6000 MUVMENT  8) 8) 8) I
IF YOU LOOK THIS  IS PERFECKT IN AND OUT ENERGY 1 =1  THIS
A SAID  IF THE 1 KICK MAKE 1 KICK OUT  ENRGY IS 1=1 
WHEN  1 KICK IF YOU PRODUCED AND GIVE 6000 IN THIS MOMENT  AND EVERY KICK WHIILL BE LIKE IN ENRGY INOUT <<I MEAN EVERY OF THIS 6000 WHILL PRODUCED THE SAME SEPARATED KICK  1 AND AND3  .....6000 
IN 1=1 OUT KICK
IN 1=2 OUT KICK
IN 1=3 OUT KICK ....TO 6000 
YOU NOW IF YOU MAKE ONE COIL THEN ANTHER UP WHIT THIS AND ANTHER  AND ANTHE R THE MUVMEN THE SIMPLE MAG OR??? IS SEPARATED STORY
EVERY TURN I SEPARATED STORY OR INDEPENDET MAG OR ENERGY
IF YOU HAVE LIKE 
I LAYER OF COIL  THEN ANTHER AROND THIS AND AROND THAT  AND ,,, AND.. EVERY SINGLE IS INDEPENDET OR ANTHER  CONCLUTIONS OF THAT IS THIS 
 1 KICK  PRODUCED 1 KICK  IN ONE LAYER OR COIL  THEN 1 KICK PRODUCED 1 KICK IN ANTHER LAYER OR COIL  ..
ALL OF THIS IN THE  SEPARATED TIME  I <<MEAN   1 SEC PRODUCED 6000
 1 THEN 2 THEN 3 THEN 5 THEN 5  ALL SEPARATED  COIL INTHE SEPARATED TIME ONE ONE SECOND  IMAGEN  THAT
THE ENERGY IS THE SAME OF ALL SEPARATED COIL YOU HAV LIKE THIS
 1 WATT IN  1 WATT OUT IN THE ONE COIL
1WATT IN 1 WATT IN THE ANTHER COIL

THE POINT OF THIS  IS HOW YOU WHILL MAKE  THE COIL JUST TO MAKE HAVE PROPERY MUVMENT  OF ALL COIL S IN THE  SEPARATED  TIME  JUST ONE SEC 
1/6000
IN THE END OF THIS EXPLANATIONS  YOU DONT NEED ELEKTRONIKS   .. ONLY BATERY OR PERM. MAG   ONE KIC K IS YOU ONLY YOU NEED TO MAKE JUST 6000 JUST THE SAME LIKE ONE KICK 
 I THING YOU NOW WHAT IM SAY TO ALL THE ORDENERY TRAFO  PRODUCED  50 Hz in 50Hz OUT  WHIT THE SAME ENRGY IN THE SAME ENRGYNOUT  THIS 
IS NOT ONE Hz is just to INCREASE SEPARATED ENERGY IMAGEN THIS  IN THE  ALL THIS  6000 HZ  YOU HAVE SEPARATED ENRGY ALL  IS THE SAME 1TO 6000
YOU PUT ONLY ONE ENRGY ,,KICK .. THIS KICK MAKE DUPLICATE THE ENRGY AND ALL THIS 6000 IS SEPARATED ENERGY 
THAT IS ALL I        D O N T HOW E N Y M O R E   TO EXPLANE  I DONT KNOW ENGLYS  GOOD TO TELL TO ALL  IF   YOU CATCH THIS YOU KNOW WHAT IM SAID

@otto  WHAT YOU THING OF THIS  :o 1TO  6000 HA HA HA LITLE

LOOK VERY CARFULL  THIS   S.M <<<< TPU 700 WATT 6000 C >>> ONE KICK HOW MUCH WHILL BE ONLY ONE KICK HOW ENERGY  I SAID THIS  ANSVER 
            O N E KICK IS     0,1166666666666666667 WATT  INPUT ENERGY OR KICK
  YOU DONT NEED BATERY ONLY PER. MAG  COLL STUFF  HA HA HA
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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #274 on: October 16, 2007, 04:04:17 AM »
Macedonia Cd, you're killing me man!!   LOL  :)

you got the most bizzare, long, and hard to read postings, I've seen, you win!!

Just show us that video lighting a bulb.  ;)

EM
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Offline wattsup

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #275 on: October 16, 2007, 04:10:56 AM »
@MAC

You're too much. I think I will count to 6000 tonight while I think about your idea. lol

@marco

I made a relay pulser and it is buzzing like hell, but the voltage I am trying to send to the coil is not getting there. My meter says O volts dc when put on the coil.

Is it because I am pulsing too fast?

Here is a schematic I have drawn to show my connections.

Any comments.
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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #276 on: October 16, 2007, 07:57:50 AM »
Quote from: wattsup on October 16, 2007, 04:10:56 AM
@MAC

You're too much. I think I will count to 6000 tonight while I think about your idea. lol

@marco

I made a relay pulser and it is buzzing like hell, but the voltage I am trying to send to the coil is not getting there. My meter says O volts dc when put on the coil.

Is it because I am pulsing too fast?

Here is a schematic I have drawn to show my connections.

Any comments.

hi
Doing so mechanically has limitations, we do not want that.
Probably the "on" time of your switch is not long enough.
you could also try to wrap a little coil around a glass reed switch but personally i think this also has mechanical limitations.
Then we can think of a hall sensor and a coil plus transistor in a similair setup, there will be no moving parts so the frequency can be much higher.

Last but not least, you could try what i call a "optical tank", this technique is used in switching power supply's and cathode ray tube modulation.
The phototransistors i am using are capable of going up to 1 Mhz in the Ir light range.

Furthermore, the idea of using amplified light to perform ANY useful
purpose or provide any gain to.....

1x 7912
1x 7905
3x irf840
1x 74hc125n
3x pot's (use variable at first,fixed values later)
3x caps (use variable at first,fixed values later)
3x cny17-2

Marco.
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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #277 on: October 16, 2007, 07:59:24 AM »
Hello all,

@Macedonia CD

a picture is worth 1000 words. A drawing or maybe a video would be fine. Show us what youre talking about.

Otto
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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #278 on: October 16, 2007, 08:44:34 AM »
@Wattsup

If that is one of those little TTL relays there is a transition time between break and make on the C form contact. The normally open side may not be making at all.

You could try getting your output from the relay coil leads but you will have more on time than off time. Things could get hot. Put a small cap across the relay coil then a pot between the relay coil and the normally closed contact. Vary the pot to adjust the speed.

The relay won't last very long but probably longer than am SM video  :D
That little relay coil will put out some pretty fast flyback.
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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #279 on: October 16, 2007, 03:45:59 PM »
MAC has a good point.

If the collector is a "circular resonator" it will ring hundreds of times from one kick.

In SM TPU letters, he talks about many small kicks combining into big kicks.  He never says that the control coils are creating kicks - like with electromagnetic induction.  The collector is exposed to a "change" which results in a small surge of current manifesting in it.

You're standing on the plate of a huge capacitor - lightning strikes, secondary magnetic field - all electrostatic phenomenon...

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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #280 on: October 16, 2007, 03:46:36 PM »
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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #281 on: October 16, 2007, 05:06:25 PM »
hey guys what is our first fundamental componment !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

not our first freq

a magnet

the earths magnetic feild = a magnet

no?

ist

i look at a magnet as a way the earth or the universe stores its own power it is like a natural battery fully portable and safe to use hummmm.....
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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #282 on: October 16, 2007, 05:36:06 PM »
You might ask yourself what creates the earth's magnetic field.

A magnetic field is always secondary.

EDIT:
If you could not publicly use the term "electrostatic" do describe a device, perhaps do to legal reasons, you could allude to "electrostatic" by the use of several other related terms.  Take the term "kicks", for example.  "Kicks" can be produced by electromagnetic induction or electrostatic induction.

An interesting excerpt from Tesla's article "ON THE DISSIPATION OF THE ELECTRICAL ENERGY OF THE HERTZ RESONATOR":

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When a glass plate is placed near a condenser the charge of which is alternated, the plate emits a sound. This sound is due to the rythmical impact of the air against the plate. I have also found that the ringing of a condenser, first noted by Sir William Thomson, is due to the presence of the air between or near the charged surfaces.

...and what about the noise that a TPU makes?
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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #283 on: October 16, 2007, 05:43:06 PM »
well, the electromagnetic field seems to be the result of lightning strokes.
the magnetic field itself seems to be the result of gigantic flows of currents in liquid iron and metals that are flowing inside the earth.
somebody told me this and i do not know if this is true, but to me it looked like a good possibillaty.

M.
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Re: TPU - General Discussion
« Reply #284 on: October 16, 2007, 05:54:59 PM »
The EM field is secondary.

It's master is the ES field.

Why does ball lightning move parallel to the earth surface?

What are the vectors in this image?

EDIT: lightning is a result of different potentials - very large potentials.  The earth and upper atmosphere are a giant capacitor.
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