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Honk

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Testing a SMOT
« on: September 28, 2007, 10:51:52 PM »
Here's some pretty good SMOT explanations to read.
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/smot.htm

Here's J Naudins SMOT experiments and crappy videos.
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/smot1.htm
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/s102jln.htm

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Re: Testing a SMOT
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2007, 11:05:59 PM »
I did many tests with SMOT's years ago. It was Naudin's website and SMOT that made me interested in doing experiments.
I managed to stack well build SMOTs. I had 6 SMOT's behind each other. The adjustment was very difficult since the ball had to fall down very straight at the end of the track, just to be smootly catched into the next track. There was no difference in 4, 5 or 6 SMOT's in a row: the ball kept rolling from one track to the other.
But I never managed to make a turn, not even a very small curve woked for me. Because when the tracks were not 100% in-line, the ball jump to the side. That made me loose my interest because a straight track over the planet was not my goal.
Eric.

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Re: Testing a SMOT
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2007, 05:13:14 AM »
Here's some pretty good SMOT explanations to read.
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/smot.htm

This is an incorrect explanation which must be ignored. The analysis of whether or not SMOT violates CoE must be done for a steel ball traveling along a closed loop.

As I have shown rigorously, for instance, here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2733.30.html#msg40090 for a ball traveling along a closed A-B-C-A loop (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2383887636280790847) SMOT produces excess energy (energy from nothing). This is a definitive finding based on scientific principles which proves unequivocally that CoE can be violated. In the case shown. production of excess energy (energy from nothing) occurs discontinuously which although can find practical application is less convenient than continuous production of excess energy. Until now continuous production of excess energy hasn't been demonstrated convincingly which by no means puts into doubt the above conclusive finding that SMOT can violate the principle of conservation of energy.(CoE).

You will stop ignoring the above conclusive findings or else this thread will have the fate of the thread @hartiberlin just closed.

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Re: Testing a SMOT
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2007, 05:19:11 AM »
I did many tests with SMOT's years ago. It was Naudin's website and SMOT that made me interested in doing experiments.
I managed to stack well build SMOTs. I had 6 SMOT's behind each other. The adjustment was very difficult since the ball had to fall down very straight at the end of the track, just to be smootly catched into the next track. There was no difference in 4, 5 or 6 SMOT's in a row: the ball kept rolling from one track to the other.
But I never managed to make a turn, not even a very small curve woked for me. Because when the tracks were not 100% in-line, the ball jump to the side. That made me loose my interest because a straight track over the planet was not my goal.
Eric.
Although personal experience such as yours may or may not be interesting in such discussions becaus it is only a demonstration of your personal skills, such experience by no means can serve as any proof concerning the possibility to build a self-sustaining SMOT.

More importantly, it has already been proven conclusively through rigorous scientific aralysis that SMOT does violate the principle of conservation of energy (CoE) which means that constructing a self-sustaining SMOT is nothing more than a mere engineering problem.

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Re: Testing a SMOT
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2007, 05:23:09 AM »

You will stop ignoring the above conclusive findings or else this thread will have the fate of the thread @hartiberlin just closed.


How bizarre!

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Testing a SMOT
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2007, 05:58:21 AM »

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. In the case shown. production of excess energy (energy from nothing) occurs discontinuously.
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What??? energy from nothing is not probable. Not saying the smot can't work, but it is getting its energy from somewhere. Try studying some string theory sometime and understand that we (humans) are coexisting in many more dimensions then we perceive. Don't perpetuate the myth that energy comes from nowhere just because you and I don't know where it comes from exactly.
Jason

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Re: Testing a SMOT
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2007, 06:30:09 AM »
From what I have read, and experienced, I think this SMOT business is just another "I built it and it worked but I can't prove it because it does not work now" type of thing.  If the damn thing works, publish the specs, the video, etc.  If it does not, then move on to something that might.  Sorry, but I have read a lot of posts on here that all seem to have been written by the same "guy" or at least, the same type of guy.

Bill

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Re: Testing a SMOT
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2007, 06:57:09 AM »
Hey bill,
come check out this thread http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3318.0/topicseen.html we are at least making headway.
Jason

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Re: Testing a SMOT
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2007, 07:06:48 AM »
Nastrand:

Thank you.  This is very interesting stuff.

Bill

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Re: Testing a SMOT
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2007, 08:42:50 AM »
Good Pirate,
I just had to poke some fun at Omnibus, he loves the smot sooo. @ Omnibus, no hard feelings, just to jab ya a little.  :P
Jason

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Re: Testing a SMOT
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2007, 08:44:34 AM »
Omnibus is fun to mess with, its almost too easy.

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Re: Testing a SMOT
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2007, 09:04:51 AM »

You will stop ignoring the above conclusive findings or else this thread will have the fate of the thread @hartiberlin just closed.


How bizarre!

Hans von Lieven
Stop spamming the thread.

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Re: Testing a SMOT
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2007, 09:08:23 AM »

. In the case shown. production of excess energy (energy from nothing) occurs discontinuously.
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What??? energy from nothing is not probable. Not saying the smot can't work, but it is getting its energy from somewhere. Try studying some string theory sometime and understand that we (humans) are coexisting in many more dimensions then we perceive. Don't perpetuate the myth that energy comes from nowhere just because you and I don't know where it comes from exactly.
Jason
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Pleas don't post when you don't understand the issue at hand.

Production of energy from nothing is not only probable but is a fact, as is conclusively proven in the case of SMOT.

SMOT does work and it violates the principle of conservation of energy. This is proven by a rigorous scientific analysis..

The incoherent blabber about string theory is just ridiculous.

Restrain from posting nonsense.

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Re: Testing a SMOT
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2007, 09:08:35 AM »
I wondered how long it would take, your game is still good omni.

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Re: Testing a SMOT
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2007, 09:11:43 AM »
Good Pirate,
I just had to poke some fun at Omnibus, he loves the smot sooo. @ Omnibus, no hard feelings, just to jab ya a little.  :P
Jason
Don't try to poke fun in this thread. This is not an entertainment rag and is not a place for comedians, especially when they are not funny at all. Don't clutter the thread with nonsense.