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Author Topic: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.  (Read 637234 times)

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #75 on: September 28, 2007, 01:28:48 AM »
The only time you get a big boom is if you disassociating the electrons from the H atoms where the H collapses into a proton . Or the term "Going Nuclear "  If this happens 1 ounce of water can take out your house depending on how many H atoms  collapse simultaneously .
And it can be done in RF and high electromagnetic resonant fields . This is only if you key the electron properly and not the entire atom as it will change over all .This requires a vibration that will resonate the electron out of orbit increasing the spin rates many times normal.

Some think this can be done with photon laser light . I have yet to see that work though it does help to sustain the excited rate of the electron , spin.

If you key the hole system
 the electrons will stabilize to the resonance of the entire system. Electron keying only, is the way to release massive energy, a very hard target to hit even in huge field because the system tries to adapted and balance itself . All you are really doing is sound swapping  in a magnetic field. Very fast

Of cource the resonance of the electron is much higher than you are working with  for simply pulling water apart.

Sorry GK,  I just realized this is your  TPU thread
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« Last Edit: September 28, 2007, 02:21:50 AM by IronHead »

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #76 on: September 28, 2007, 03:12:08 AM »
@IronHead,
No problem. Everything is valid. Solids, liquids, gases, frequencies and harmonics all seem to coelesce to some degree in the valid attempts for OU. I haven't seen anything to the contrary. What else could there be?

--giantkiller. One big happy detonation. 8)

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« Reply #77 on: September 28, 2007, 03:23:05 AM »
TIME


Plasma is one of the keys to opening doors of understanding. It has a unique way of showing you what is happening in the phenomenology of the unknown forces. For instance , a phase conjugate wave .With out the understand of time reversed waves you do not have the full picture of energy .

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #78 on: September 28, 2007, 03:25:00 AM »
@IronHead,
No problem. Everything is valid. Solids, liquids, gases, frequencies and harmonics all seem to coelesce to some degree in the valid attempts for OU. I haven't seen anything to the contrary. What else could there be?

--giantkiller. One big happy detonation. 8)

You maybe have a page some place where you explain what you are working at?

Ive seen this.
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lmdtem.htm

But it says it's from 10 years ago? Isn't there any more recent website?

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #79 on: September 28, 2007, 03:38:50 AM »
@IronHead,
No problem. Everything is valid. Solids, liquids, gases, frequencies and harmonics all seem to coelesce to some degree in the valid attempts for OU. I haven't seen anything to the contrary. What else could there be?

--giantkiller. One big happy detonation. 8)

You maybe have a page some place where you explain what you are working at?

Ive seen this.
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lmdtem.htm

But it says it's from 10 years ago? Isn't there any more recent website?

Well there is also Borderlands and the Dollard doco/ videos. I didn't do any more searching because what was shown worked. If there is anything more recent then you're here at OU. The information that brought me up to speed was the Telsa patents and other things like Keely. We dig and grovel. I don't understand the lapses in progress. But pretty much the live OU and the talented people are bringing alot to the present. So far this looks like the most fervent effort from the most active groups. The 100 year docos still has life in it.

The most effort comes from those who like to play on the fringe also. :D
For the guys, it's the little boy in us that likes to blow stuff up. I can't help myself.

--giantkiller. Thanks for posting.

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« Reply #80 on: September 28, 2007, 03:45:22 AM »
I have been pretty deep into some very dangerous discoveries and have been reluctant to post anything until  things have been better worked out.

oops  not sure you were asking me.
I'll be on my way as to not high jack this thread .It just seems to happen to me.

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #81 on: September 28, 2007, 04:26:30 AM »
I have been pretty deep into some very dangerous discoveries and have been reluctant to post anything until  things have been better worked out.

oops  not sure you were asking me.
I'll be on my way as to not high jack this thread .It just seems to happen to me.


Thats ok.

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« Reply #82 on: September 28, 2007, 05:33:35 AM »
Last I heard, Eric Dollard was in the Bay Area (San Francisco Bay) and consulting for electrical utility companies.

He still appears at Tesla symposium type get-to-gethers.

411.com will list an E. T. Dollard in that area, but have not called to see if this is Eric.



@IH - Pm'd new cell concept.

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #83 on: September 28, 2007, 05:29:03 PM »
Following this:http://www.geocities.com/leobodnar/audio_amplifiers.html
I got into the ad826 class A's last night and found the positive side amp goes to rail and same with the negative side to bottom rail. Its like infinite gain on top and bottom. The pot adj has not affect.
I put in sine 600mv and get sine 100mv only on bottom side. +-12v battery supply. I even disconnected the fet totems. Same results. I also had 1uf coupling on the inputs and 1uf on the outputs. No change. I removed them both at end.
I can see no misconnections in the 3 amp ckts.
I might just break down and buy 3 and jump over this design issue.

When this problem is out of the way I see with the audio solution using wave guides under exact digital control I will produce the Keeley liberator. The micro processor to DAC to the xr2206's does just that. He didnt use hardly any volume / amplitutde. His vibratory medium was the plasma or gas. I believe the acoustic laser can be made dangerous with the right transducers like Hutchison used pulse down focused wave guides. If the effect can detonate water then solid matter can be altered also. Just like John Hutchison is doing.

So yes I have to get the amps up and press on with the results of the TPU. But I will be back in parallel force.

I hate these brickwalls that pop up. Solid noise.

--giantkiller.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2007, 08:57:40 PM by giantkiller »

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #84 on: September 29, 2007, 12:19:34 AM »
@GK, Is and All

Walls of solid noise... can be removed with resonance too.. as you know and have proven! It took me a while to figure out your guilty secret which even you do not yet know!

GK I strongly suspect that you build a time machine this weekend and go back to 1550BC to try a quick test of your Super-Bombastic Audio TPU by giving a bloke who needs an inconvenient wall demolished a hand...  :o

Oh and I do have documentary evidence! Albeit a drawing of the event by someone who heard it third-hand from a friend of a friend of a blind guy who witnessed it... pretty good evidence by any standard...

See below... Two guys can clearly be seen carrying an Audio TPU, behind a guy who takes all the credit with his silly rams horn (or is that Is pretending to be an innocent bystander).

Acerzw, correcting the errors in biblical history  8) ::)

(Walls of Jericho, naughty GK (and Is?) ! Lucky you didn't leave any equipment behind, otherwise Jesus would have ended up doing a podcast which his followers would have dutifully downloaded onto their water/goat powered Joshua-Bose made iPods!  :P)
« Last Edit: September 29, 2007, 12:48:24 AM by acerzw »

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #85 on: September 29, 2007, 12:54:28 AM »
@GK, Is and All

Walls of solid noise... can be removed with resonance too.. as you know and have proven! It took me a while to figure out your guilty secret which even you do not yet know!

GK I strongly suspect that you build a time machine this weekend and go back to 1550BC to try a quick test of your Super-Bombastic Audio TPU by giving a bloke who needs an inconvenient wall demolished a hand...  :o

Oh and I do have documentary evidence! Albeit a drawing of the event by someone who heard it third-hand from a friend of a friend of a blind guy who witnessed it... pretty good evidence by any standard...

See below... Two guys can clearly be seen carrying an Audio TPU, behind a guy who takes all the credit with his silly rams horn (or is that Is pretending to be an innocent bystander).

Acerzw, correcting the errors in biblical history  8) ::)

(Walls of Jericho, naughty GK (and Is?) ! Lucky you didn't leave any equipment behind, otherwise Jesus would have ended up doing a podcast which his followers would have dutifully downloaded onto their water/goat powered Joshua-Bose made iPods!  :P)

There truely is nothing new under the sun, eh brother?

--giantkiller. Basic instructions before leaving Earth...

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #86 on: September 29, 2007, 01:02:50 AM »
@GK,

You are saying you have discovered the sun has a preferred orientation too! Amazing, I have been looking for the top for ages! Please post details here...  >:(

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #87 on: September 29, 2007, 02:11:01 AM »
I don't know whats happened GK i think this should work fine.  Check the voltage out of the 5 volt reg. Note it doesn't sit directly on the supply but in the bias loop. The pot must make a difference if its working should draw least 1/2 amp quiescent at midrange and might go to 3 amps closed. This amp should run HOT within seconds of turning on thus good heat sink essential.

The op amp looks fine the gain set by the input ratio roughly a gain of 9 non inverting its really just a buffer an supply the symmetry.  See what voltage you have between the mosfets for the biasing. There is a chance something wasn't right and a mosfet has been killed. You can check the opamp independent of all the other biasing by lift the output leg and stick 1k back to the input then put a 1uf cap on it and scope it should work fine.

Such a simple circuit must be something really silly. If you get really stuck and cant fix it then you can buy a 4 channel car mosfet amp from ebay for about 25 bucks brand new which is cheaper then you can build these things for. Even the alu case and fittings will cost more then that to buy and make.  In hind site it may have been prudent to go that route instead. Some designs have 4 separate pcbs inside too makes a bargain you cant refuse to get access to four 25 watt RMS MOSFET amps for 6 bucks each dont matter even if you blow the crap of it of for that money. The standard config is 400 watt music power. So called 100 watt rip off music power per channel usually comes down to 25 watts RMS at 0.01% distortion.

 They need small mods to lift the bandwidth like removing or decreasing input and output sig to ground caps that would normally roll off the top end to make them a bit more stable and save power where you cant hear it anyway but we need the bandwidth.  Some of the amps are spec at 35k with no mods. I cant see any reason why these wont go to 100k when "lifted" as most mosfets are spec much higher then that and should be ample for tpu testing and plenty of power. I'm confident this will make a good test bed.

Ebay is an excellent source for cheap parts including inverters. They are so cheap now for 500 watt inverter will give you access to ferrite rings, cores, chokes, resistors and caps and mos fets that would cost 3 or 4 times more to buy the parts alone.  Sometimes there are sold as faulty i seen 1000 watt inverter for like 5 bucks which are a tpu builder bargains for spare parts. :)

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Re: Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.
« Reply #88 on: September 29, 2007, 02:17:39 AM »
 ;D

nice bolt
lol!!

i just happin to have a verry nice 4 channel amp right here  ;) also here is a pic of a mono car audio amp 1 hom stable and all digital  i have 2 of thease  and the last pic  is an 150 w invertor taken apart there irf634b fets in this invertor and there just happins to be 3 of them in there ;)

but i really liked the invertor part

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« Last Edit: September 29, 2007, 05:43:41 AM by innovation_station »

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« Reply #89 on: September 29, 2007, 06:07:35 AM »
Well screw the shake and bake shit. Would have been nice to have built something. But when the opamps don't even respond then its time to move on. I went to ebay and found this little gem.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2400-WATT-W-4-Channel-CAR-MOSFET-AMP-AMPLIFIER-NEW_W0QQitemZ180163349708QQihZ008QQcategoryZ4950QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem

Any feedback would be great. I trust my judgement but secondary opinions are always welcome. Gonna go spend the day with my girlfriend. I need to get the hell away on break! This corner is just too dark for the length of time I have been at this.

Worked with opamps for years but nothing as stupid as this failure. This attempt doesn't even equate as geek time. I think the schematic is crap.