Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Mechanical free energy devices => mechanic => Topic started by: Olli P Taina on September 17, 2007, 07:51:18 AM

Title: Nick Nelson's magnetic motor ideas
Post by: Olli P Taina on September 17, 2007, 07:51:18 AM
Hello everyone,

Has anyone of you studied the magnetic motor ideas of Nick Nelson? http://www.athenapolis.com/NN_FindingtheMotor.htm
http://www.athenapolis.com/NN_MotorintheMagnet.htm
http://www.athenapolis.com/NN_SwitchingDomain.htm

I have also used a 90-degree angle setup in my own experiments and found some unexpected results.
My opinion is that magnetism in general is not very well understood and just like Mr. Nelson writes standard electrical design principles can not deliver a working magnetic motor and the only way to achieve a proper design is - more or less - by trial and error.

BR
- Olli P Taina
Title: Re: Nick Nelson's magnetic motor ideas
Post by: hansvonlieven on September 19, 2007, 11:30:34 AM
G'day Olli,

You say:  My opinion is that magnetism in general is not very well understood and just like Mr. Nelson writes standard electrical design principles can not deliver a working magnetic motor and the only way to achieve a proper design is - more or less - by trial and error.
(my emphasis)

You are absolutely right. If you have a good look at history and technological developments you will find that most discoveries were made by trial and error.

Scientists came in later, explained more or less what was happening and collected the Nobel Prizes.

Life IS a bitch sometimes :-)

Incidentally, thanks for the interesting links. Worth following up I think.

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: Nick Nelson's magnetic motor ideas
Post by: Olli P Taina on September 19, 2007, 12:58:26 PM
Normal procedure for designing an electric motor involves analyzing the interaction between the magnetic fields generated by the stator and the rotor.
Mr. Nelson writes about a third element needed in addition to these "conventional" two elements: stator and rotor.

If we assume that magnetism is in essence a particle flow and this flow of particles always takes the easiest path available it seems quite logical that at the "sticky" point of rotation an alternative route for the magnetism particle flow is needed. If this alternative route gives the particles an easier path to travel they will follow this path until the rotor rotates forward to a position where the "normal" path between the stator and rotor magnets again provides the easiest path and the rotation continues.

Does this sound logical to you?

- OT