@NerzhDishual
It's about time somebody started getting this
As I said in my last post you need an LC circuit---- both capacitance AND inductance, an electric motor is an inductance and it has another important property as well--- inertia. When the power is disconnected from an electric motor and this motor is still in series with a capacitance not only will the inductive discharge from the inductance charge the capacitance but the electric motor becomes an electric generator and will use the momentum given to it to charge the capacitance as well.
The next problem you are going to encounter on your journey is the" voltage drop ", in your light bulb circuit the amperage in the circuit is continous in every part of the circuit but the voltage is not -- power in watts is volts times amps. Now you have to deal with the voltage drop, there are ways to always produce a voltage rise in a circuit and I am sure you will find them soon enough. If you want to fast track your progress try googling --DC/DC step-up converters.
We should remember that every component you add to a circuit increases resistance and other losses therefore the best circuit will have a minimum number of resistive components.This includes diodes, transistors and resistors which will add to the voltage drop.

@Nul-Points

Thanks for your 'feedbacks'. I'm very interested in your experiments. Would it be possible for you to give me more accurate precisions? IMHO, your pictures do not allow a rigorous replication.
I'm retired now. I was a computer programmer. Then I have time and I could try to reproduce your circuits.

I'm very doubtfull about the JLN circuits specifications.
For example:
In http://jlnlabs.online.fr/cnr/negosc.htm (non 'OU' experiment, BTW)
He claimed:
Bat =  12 V
Cap =  1nF
Inductance = 6mH
I= 6 mA
36 volts out pk-pk.
It did not work for me (should the 2N2222A be blamed?)  .

I got, after some others tedious trials:
Bat = 12 V
Cap = 500 pifs (0.5 nano)
Inductance = 2.7mH
I= 7.2 mA
30 volts out pk-pk
That is not so bad, but I had to divide the claimed values by 2.

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@AllCanadian

Thanks for your remarks. I guess I see what you mean...  LC circuits...

I'm not completely newbie (moronic) in basic DC electricity, Ohm's Law ,voltage divider, Th?venin, Norton and all these these sorts of fascinating guys and things 

Basic AC electricity is also even not entirely over my mind yet it uses imaginary numbers and all these kind of strange & funny gobbledegook... However, I must confess that things like transistor 'Common Base Stage' or else are saturating my few left brain neurons...

Anyway, I cannot help thinking ('feeling'  would be more accurate) that there are somethings 'wrong' (= uncompleted) in mainstream science notably about capacitors, Faraday Electrolysis, Lenz Law, Magnets Resonance, Relativity, Gravity, etc.

Consequently, I firmly 'believe' that OU (COP >1, not efficiency >1) is possible.
Am I able to 'achieve OU' is another question.

I guess that spending my time posting things in this very forum and designing some simple experiments should be better than boozing myself outside in some fishy bars where smoking is no more allowed. 

Best

Hi Nul-Points,

....
happy to help if i can, let me know what info you want - my circuits weren't critical values, i was just experimenting to look for general trends.

your rep of the JLN negistor results seem reasonable to me - always going to be differences even if you used same value components

About your circuits drawings:
Should they were as 'accurate' as the JLN ones would be fine.
You are using 'small' but 'strong' capacitor, I guess, (1 farad, 5 volts for example)?
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About the JLN 'Negistor' circuit:

A very 'hectic' (no insult intended) ,intuitive and sharp-witted 83 years old friend of mine
has 'reproduced' (improved) this experiment.
At phone, this very afternoon, he told me that:
The voltage must be accurately tuned.
He was able to got more than 100 volts with a single 2N2222 (or others trans, BTW)
and virtually no amps consumption. 
He gave me the specs. It did not work for me this afternoon.
I guess that he his using some strange stuff (caps, coils) from his attic.
I will phone him again.

However, as soon as I used a variable voltage device (what do you call that?),
I was able to got 40 volts pk-pk with 12.1 volts input (it did not work far beyond this
voltage limit). No OU claimed here!

Actually, I previously had been using a mere '12' volts bat. and had noticed
incomprehensible breakdowns in this (very simple) circuit.
So, Worth to be more investigated and more to come ASAP.

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Sorry for any mistake in my English. I'm not so comfortable in English grammar (tenses).

BTW: Just for the fun:
If you Google "It would have had to have been" you got more than 15000 pages.
But Googling "It would have had to had been" just gives me 2 pages.
And "It would had had to have been" gives no page.
English is a strange language. Is it not? Of course I'm kidding...

In Italian the Imperfect Subjunctive is very common (it is obsolete in French) .
Future Subjunctive exist in Portuguese and Spanish.

Best

Hi Guys,
              So, as this thread seems to have been motivated by the commentary of Patrick Kelly's writings, I am wondering why no comment has been made on the alleged three year trial by one "Electrodyne Corporation". A company that may now not exist. The results which, after the difficulty in replicating Tesla's notion of energy conservation during this thead, seem to be somewhat dubious.

Back to the dreaming drawing board and the thoughts of eternal optimism!!

Regards
           

...after the difficulty in replicating Tesla's notion of energy conservation during this thead...

Back to the dreaming drawing board and the thoughts of eternal optimism!!

way-aye ourbobby

on the contrary, shortly after posting details of charge anomalies which NerzhDishual and i reported on this thread, i found that i was able to make a simple mod to my switch-charge circuit and achieve COP >1.2 for (Useful Energy)/(Total Input Energy)

details on my website linked below and at my own thread on this subject:  http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4419.0.html

dreaming & optimism rewarded! 

all the best
sandy
Doc Ringwood's Free Energy site  http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc

To Nul-Points (Sandy),
  yes had I read some of your latest results, but, I was inclined to think that you were not absolutely convinced yourself that the tests were producing unambiguous results. I do however think that you are indeed a very dedicated and persistant engineer. Also, I have had trouble reading your circuits and I am not sure which amended circuit we are now looking at. Thankyou for sharing your experiences with us all - newbies too!
Regards

hi ourbobby
thanks for the kind (although probably unjustified) words - i must show your post ("very dedicated and persistant engineer") to my boss, sometime

i'm absolutely convinced of the results i'm recording - i'm just measuring volts on capacitors and i believe i've taken reasonable precautions to avoid significant error in doing that

however, i have to admit that i was a bit hesitant about announcing the fact that my results appear to be OU - as an engineer i'm very aware that this is considered not only impossible but it's also perceived as an indication of heretical thinking on the scale of threatening to undermine the very fabric of civilised society

having seen people, such as Eric Laithwaite and Ivor Catt (one of whom i've met through work), whose thinking ability and contribution to engineering was exceptional, get vilified and prevented from presenting papers and discussing anomalies which might possibly upset the scientific status quo, one realises that inertia  isn't a property confined just to mechanical or electrical systems!

fortunately there are  arenas where it's possible to discuss theories and results of this nature without being viewed as a threat to established science - this, of course, being one - so now i'm waiting for some supporting evidence that other people can achieve the same results from this experiment


the unfolding record of my progress with the charge, and then energy, anomaly experiments has been rather muddied by the fact that the editing arrangements on the forum were changed just before i achieved the OU measurements on the overall system (as opposed to just the final charge transfer to output) - when i went back to remove my remaining intermediate piece-meal results i found that it was no longer possible to edit them

the full schematic, and parts details, of the circuit which provided the results posted indicating (Useful Energy)/(Total Energy) = 1.2  are given in replies #25 & #26 on page 1 of the thread i gave you above
    http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4419.0.html


i'd welcome any considered comments you feel you have the time & interest to make on the nature or the implications of the experiment

i appreciate that my experiment isn't immediately applicable to driving 35HP loads either, but i think it's important to establish first whether the principle of Conservation of  Energy applies just within the macro boundaries of the circuit elements or are we justified in extending that boundary to include a background energy pervading the fabric of the Universe

if the latter is true, then we should all be putting our best efforts into developing and applying methods, such as this one, which are giving indications of charge & energy conservation imbalance, to replace or augment existing technology wherever necessary & appropriate

all the best
sandy

hi ourbobby

sounds like a worthwhile and honest approach

there has been a lot of heat generated recently, on the 'Feynman builds a Bedini ..' thread,.about the lack of solid evidence for/against some of the Bedini designs

if you're able to address that gap it should cut down unnecessary arguments

is it worth starting a fresh thread, perhaps, when you're ready?

yes, i'd be interested to learn a bit about what you plan - doesn't have to be in too much detail if that's better for you

all the best
sandy

<b>Doc Ringwood's Free Energy site:</b>  <b>http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc</b>