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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #75 on: December 30, 2007, 08:43:13 AM »
just a note:  only one wire of the secondary of the SSG coils gives HV. The other one shows only small voltages. Very strange.

The fourth battery charges impressively fast. All the batteries, with the exception of one, stays at the same voltage. The one that is loosing voltage loses at 10x less, or slower, than the one the gains voltage via the coil. For each 0.01v lost I gain at least 0.1v.

The voltage created via the coils is NOT ghost voltage. Under test it stands a good charge (i.e. running a car light).

I think this is it. This 3 battery system is presenting good behaviors that are an improvement of all the others that I already noted with simplified nodes.

The next step is to replace relays with solid state (I ordered the correct ones now) and move to the 4 batteries switch.

Load is HIGHLY influent on the overall aspects of the system. Voltage on load will be automatically delivered based on the load characteristics. Current will also follow the load's needs. That will be a problem if one wants more output power and still keep the batteries charged. We can improve on that after this system is in working conditions. In other words, impedance is extremely important.

Whoever will try this, be very carefull with the coil wires. It is ***REALLY*** high voltage. 500+volts. It can kill you. I got a shock and I did not like it at all. It is really worse than sticking your fingers directly at an outlet (120vac).

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #76 on: December 30, 2007, 08:59:42 AM »
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Here is my design, low tec version. So far timer and relays works, all is left to connect the batteries.
The batteries I got are 4 standart 12 v lead acid core. Made for small tractors.
I just numbered the relay connection wires/terminals, or else it's to complicated to make the drawings.

Possibly relay contacts will burn out! If the load will be too large!. It will be interesting to see what the
come out of this experiment will be?
Mem.

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #77 on: December 31, 2007, 05:01:52 AM »
I only remember having those strong feelings about something when I was living in Brazil and having many girl friends per month. A new girl friend, life was great. After break-up, everything was horrible. I feel the same with science. Experiments are going great, I am in love. They fail, I am in horrible shape.

Up and downs of life. Well. I used to that. Now back to work.

The 3 batteries switch is simply phenomenal. It was working very well until it simply died and died fast. So I decided to recharge all the batteries using my SSG and try another test with all at the same level, instead of how I had it. One fully charged and the other 2 half so.
In the process of charging the batteries I had an idea, why not use my SSG as the load, which is a much more efficient way to charge another battery instead of what I was doing with one coil that was going craizy with all that AC (magnetic field collapsing and before even finished here came another current to create another field, but ops, this time inverted and so forth).

With the SSG as the load a few things I could notice already on the begginning of the test:
1 - It adjusts itself as a load to the 3 bat switch. Its impedance changes as the charging battery changes and therefore the "load" seen by the "tesla switch" changes. That's absolutely great.
2 - SSG is charging a fourth battery much more efficiently than I could ever want.
3 - The 3 batteries are behaving a little bit different now, since all are charged almost to full capacity, but with different impedance for the load, they are much more stable in their voltages holding
4 - It seams that one of the batteries of the 3 is actually charging!!! (Time will tell).

Happy new years guys and get drunk but dont get lost!!!

Fausto.

ps: video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkPfMM3OL6c

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #77 on: December 31, 2007, 05:01:52 AM »
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #78 on: December 31, 2007, 09:18:42 PM »
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #79 on: January 01, 2008, 05:29:15 AM »
just an update. My 3 batteries switch is running now for more than 24 hours and I already outputed about 20watts of power out of those 3 batteries plus another one that has being charged by the SSG machine that is used as a load on the 3 batteries switch.

I also tried today closing the loop, connecting not only one battery to the SSG but also another output from the same SSG back to one of the 3 batteries on the switch system.

It is working wonderfully. The wheel is spinning at about 600rpm and everything seams to be (after switching back and fourth the batteries) at stable voltages. Output increased to 12v and 200ma and fluctuates at min 6.5v and 60ma up to 16v and 500ma.

I think I already ran the power that was available on these batteries a long time ago and that is based on previous load tests I have been doing because of the SSG project (SSG = Simplified School Girl motor from Bedini).

Closing the loop seams to work well because the batteries are on and off by the switch plus the 22000uf caps that is decoupling things a bit.

I have to tell you, this thing is working at least very efficiently. Time will tell. I think if it runs without having to recharge any of the batteries for a week this is most definitely a super efficient device. I can't barely wait to try the 4 batteries switch, but one step at the time with lots of testing in between. I am also collecting all the output into the computer and running calculations based on the data. It is not super good data because of the speed of sampling but it is good enough for this preliminary tests.

@Groundloop

Man I am very curious to know how your tests are going.

Fausto.

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #80 on: January 01, 2008, 06:32:59 AM »
Plengo

Fascinating results! I can see you are making rapid progress.....
If you would not mind, I would also like to give your 3 battery setup a try?
But first I will have to build a SSG similar to yours.
What materials did you use for your SSG?
Can you maybe direct me to some instructions to build an SSG like yours?
Thank you in advance and Happy New Year!

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #81 on: January 01, 2008, 07:17:13 AM »
@passion1
sure. The SSG coil can be found in detail at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bedini_Monopole3/. Look for the file section and you will find how to build one.

But here is the quickies: 315ft of 23awg and 18awg. Grab both at the same time and just go around a spool 1" in diameter until the whole 315ft is gone. You have to pay special attention to the direction of winding it so look at the yahoo group and read carefully. But there is no secret really. If you hold with your left hand the spool just wind it towards down, from your face (you looking at the spool) towards your feet or down using your right hand. Go on turning the wire and making sure they are close as possible with no gaps in between. Now ask your wife/girlfriend to bring the beer and sip it in your mouth before you die of boredom because 315ft is about 2000 turns!!!  ;D

Happy new year!!!

Fausto.


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Re: Tesla Switch need help
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #82 on: January 01, 2008, 08:55:00 AM »
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #84 on: January 01, 2008, 12:05:58 PM »
Now ask your wife/girlfriend to bring the beer and sip it in your mouth before you die of boredom because 315ft is about 2000 turns!!!  ;D
@ Plengo

Thank you for the good advice!!  :)

@ Groundloop

Thank you for the circuit. I cannot wait to get home from holiday to try this....

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #85 on: January 01, 2008, 03:20:29 PM »
@ Groundloop
   Hey just thought I would post this at ya and see what you think. Since you stated that the traces burn with no load on the system, then that brings to mind that you had a path for the current to flow. Namely, I mean the MosFets. They have a very fast turn on time and low internal resistance. This makes the switching critical. If you look at the pictoral in the D6b.pdf of the mechanical switch, you will notice 70 degree gaps in the conductors. That basicly forms a "Break before Make" type of switch.
   If you have a dual trace scope you will be able to see what I mean by scoping channel 1 on one set of fets and ch2 on the other. Then set to a very short sample time and see the overlap. I would suspect you are using the same signal just inverted to switch all six transistors.
   In all essence, you have an intermittent short happening and thus a lot of heat. There should be all but "NO" current flow on this without a load. Simply no load, each side will switch from parallel to serial connection but no flow between.

   On top of that, I have manually hooked up the circuit and included the caps and can get no output per se. I cant see how this will function with them in the works. Time will tell, I just finished chargeing 4 idenical 12v5ah gels and in the process of setting it up with 555's to form the break before make switching.  Have fun and lets make this fly

thaelin


@Plengo,

I used 6 resistors to limit the max. current for each switch. My circuit is now running cool with
no wasted heat. All four batteries is slowely discharging even with no load on the output.

@Maxc

I think the circuit you posted is a better way to do it. Switching charge between capacitors and
just refill the needed power due to loss in the circuit. I will use my circuit but modify my capacitor
and diode board to switch between capacitors via a transformer.

Groundloop.

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
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« Reply #88 on: January 01, 2008, 08:20:49 PM »
@ Groundloop

   Okies, now I see why you have constant current flow. The transformer. I have no transformer and thus no path.  ;)

   My setup is via the original Brandt 1983  bratt.jpg circuit. Verbetim. It works well. But therein lies the missunderstanding. I will be adding the triggers today and then fire it up and let it run to see what goes.

@plengo
    :P   Waiting to hear more on your setup.

thaelin

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