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Offline plengo

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #60 on: December 27, 2007, 03:24:18 AM »
@Groundloop

check this out
"The final working model used the 2N5885 transistor instead of the 2N3055H as listed.
The control chip was the SG 3524 instead of the SG 3984 as listed. The system switched
slowly, at no more that 20 CPS."  (quote from below file)

at http://www.esmhome.org/library/john-bedini/report_on_4_battery_switch.pdf

Look into the 2N5885 instead of the 2N3055H.

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #61 on: December 27, 2007, 04:17:34 AM »
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #62 on: December 27, 2007, 10:04:24 PM »
<<This Tesla switch circuit as I have understood is simple device that
while you use (get work done) and discharge half of the batteries the
other half of the batteries gets charged with the flowing electrons on the circuit.
 
Is this so?
 
When deep cycle batteries are used for solar powered homes
this cycle is very chaotic! What I mean is: Sun can be
blocked by clouds many times a day, like wise
usage of the batteries constantly changes.
Perhaps, close to waves of the ocean!
 
Have ever thought about this charging speed process yourself?
 
Now my question to you is:
What do you think this discharge and
charge cycle speed of the circuit (fast or slow)
 
will be the most efficient?
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #63 on: December 27, 2007, 10:44:05 PM »
@Mem

hello Mem. Accordingly to the related history, this switching device was tested by Tesla and a third party company. Tesla used this without stopping for months. This device (if working properly) works as you explained in a scientific explanation BUT what the findings that were related does not comply to that, instead, it runs the load and still keeps ALL the batteries FULLY charged.

You see, if we build this thing correctly it should run a load, such TV or radio for much longer than the total energy available on the batteries. It will not produce new energy (almost true) but it will run its power without loosing any power even though we still loose some on the switching, heat and other loses. That's the builty of this device.

Fausto.

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #64 on: December 28, 2007, 05:04:54 AM »
@Groundloop

I have been testing my simplified node with two lead-acid batteries (5ah SLA) and I am about my 10 switch. Both batteries are to be considered depleted, below 3v. Still they manage to provide a constant 100ma of current in every switch until the voltage of the source battery goes to below 2v where the destination goes to above 7v. Than I switch both and start the process again. Whole process now is about 1/2 hour each run.

I have also been collecting (not perfectly for this first time) the voltages and currents of the source in a computer using a USB power analyser device. I already delivered in my first preliminaries over 30w of power and none of both together had more 7w each. I have been testing over this batteries for the Bedini SSG project for a long time and I never, I repeat, I never had such great performance before.

I must say the least there is a very promising technology here with this swtiching stuff.

Fausto.

[Edit: the diagram (my new drawing trial)]
ps: The impedance matching is a huge problem.
ps2: duty cycle is 10% to L1 90% to L2
ps3: [edit] It seams that I inverted the B2 and B3 connections to the diode bridge. Sorry about that!
ps4: [edit] Where is my head? oh boy, the diode bridge is all incorrect. Just imagine a correct bridge there!
« Last Edit: December 30, 2007, 05:23:02 AM by plengo »

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #65 on: December 28, 2007, 05:46:09 AM »
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #66 on: December 28, 2007, 06:10:22 AM »
@Groundloop,

yes I tried with other battery types. The lead-acid is the best to receive those high voltage spikes and convert them into real voltage and charge. The other batteries will simply get depleted faster and produce lost of "ghost" voltages.

I know about destroying the battery, but here is the thing, my worse battery "B" (long ago I kill it when playing with SSG) is now my BEST in receiving this HV and converting it to real power. It is simply amazing. I "cold boiled" it once and I think that's the secret.

BTW, good job on your designs. I am still going to play a little bit with the relays (I bought some good ones on jamenco) and after that I will try your circuit.

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #67 on: December 28, 2007, 03:36:35 PM »
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #68 on: December 28, 2007, 06:09:28 PM »
Some observations that i have:

- the batteries are depleting in this one node setup, but, they are never depleted totally. It is always producing enough energy back to run it again and generate watts for hours and days.
- faster switching is not necessarily the best. What seams to matter is that the destination battery gets some HV pulses and the source battery IS drainned so that it allows the charges to move or better, to resonate.
- impedance matching is very important, without it the source battery only drains very fast.
- There is a difference in the kind of electricity that is collected on my B3 and B2 (see drawing above) and the using a capacitor at B3 does not work as well as using a NIMH. B3 will have a "ghost" voltage but that voltage is changing the dynamics of the whole circuit.
- Switching the batteries back and forth FASTER is better.
- Having frequency pulsing IS important. So there are two things here: pulsing and switching the batteries or source of current.
- 4+ days now and still generating power with almost depleted batteries (technicaly they ARE depleted).
- The high voltage seams to be the same when B1 is giving 12v or 2v. Very strange.
- The voltages between B1 and B2 will be balancing each other. So starting with a higher voltage in one and lower in another will first cause a fast balancing and them you will be able to see some of the effects above.
- The residual voltages I have now are consistent with the drop voltage of the LEDs (load). Hmmm. ???

I can barely wait to start testing with 3 batteries (2 nodes).

Fausto.

ps: 4 day video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8TqhPbGDUE
« Last Edit: December 28, 2007, 10:05:21 PM by plengo »

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #69 on: December 29, 2007, 01:53:46 AM »
You can try and make Tesla switch with the "back EFM recycler circuit" no diodes and FETs. Can't find those threads at the moment.

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #70 on: December 29, 2007, 07:45:20 PM »
Maxc,
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You can try and make Tesla switch with the "back EFM recycler circuit" no diodes and FETs

To do that you got to have an induction coil somewhere in the circuit! I think this is a great idea...
I was thinking of that my self too.

My Tesla Switch almost ready to test, too: Mine is consist of 4 new 12 V tractor batteries,
The brain of the circuit is 2 transistor flip-flop oscilator, that turns on/off 2 solid state AC
relays (they are actualy opto coupled triacks) that turns 2 different sets of 4 mechanical relays
 on & off. (This is only a test, thats why I used what ever was avalable to me)

After several hours of work, the circuit operates very well.
Now what is left matter of connecting the batteries on the circuit.

The operation of my circuit it's same as Groundloop's circuit!
Yet he's all electronic and high speed, mine is low speed
and switching of the batteries will take place with mechanical contacts.

Coming back to: Maxc idea above: My contacts will allow such
back EMF test is well, other then I don't how to incorperate induction
coil in the circuit? Plus batteries have high AMPs this couls cause problem!

Mem.>>



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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #71 on: December 29, 2007, 10:28:31 PM »
Get rid of the zeners diodes.  ???

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #72 on: December 29, 2007, 10:43:13 PM »
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #73 on: December 30, 2007, 12:31:09 AM »
Now I am testing a 3 batteries switch system based on the pdf (attached) page 21 (but changed to 3 batteries instead of 4). See also my video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd2CeNLWahY.

It is giving a constant 60ma output at 3v. This is because of the kind of load (100 LEDs at 2.7v). Frequency is 100hz. I added a SSG coil at one of the outputs (in between one pole of the diode bridge and the cap) and the secondary (generating voltages over 400vpp - dont touch that baby) going to a "fourth" battery that is charging at 1v per hour while the other batteries are loosing .01v per hour. Very impressive.

Fausto.
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #74 on: December 30, 2007, 01:27:37 AM »
@Maxc,

Great circuit.  :D Have you built and tested the circuit?
Or is it just a simulation?

Groundloop.
  I didn't build it. Somebody else posted it in another thread. I might build it I have some free time now.

 

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