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Offline Paul-R

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2007, 04:29:52 PM »
I have heard it said that the Tesla Switch does not really like solid state switches. It picks up radiant energy, and works better with rotating commutator type stuff.
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
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Offline fritz

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2007, 06:33:29 PM »
hmmm.

You have 4 identical lossless accumulators, 2 charged with
the energy q, 2 uncharged.
After dis/recharging you end up with 2 batteries charged with
0.5 q and the others discharged.
Next cylce ends with 2 batteries, at 0.25 q. and so on.
The total amount of energy in the batteries is the series:
2q q 0.5q 0.25q 0.125q.....
The energy destroyed / transformed to heat and light is:
q 0.5q 0.25q 0.125q..
If you do that forever without any loss - you transfered the
energy of 2q completly to heat and light.
 ???  ;D
That the efficiency and the capacity of a lead acid battery
increases if you operate it it pulsed mode is another story.
If you have 2 identical charged batteries and have
2 different load - one with dc and one with pulses its quite
shure that you can get more out if pulsed.... ;D

Maybe you know the pulsed nicd/nimh chargers that charge
the stuff with a high current pulse - and then short circuit  the
accumulator for a short periode to "remove" the unneccesary
charge which heats up the stuff.


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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2007, 06:37:56 PM »
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2007, 09:28:58 PM »
Hi-

 Like Paul-R mentioned, a "sparking', mechanical, rotating commutator is likely the way to go for the switching. I built a 4 battery circuit some months back with slow poor switching and thus it was unsuccesful.
 I am looking for an appropriate switch or build one before trying again.
 It can be the newman effect from the spark switching that accounts for or contributes to any 'free' energy gains.


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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2007, 11:38:08 PM »
Hi folks,
my conclusion ->
this thing is a way too strange, information about it is rare and inconsistend.

- mechanical switching vs. very high transistor switching (see story about microwave engineer ...)
- new never loaded battery vs. old and dead battery (see cold fusion cell concepts)
- negative resistance, open system, 2 currents
- test done with voltage factor vs. test done with power factor

Bedini descripes a litte test with a few lamp batteries (splitting the dipole) this should show something interesting ... :-/

By the way, take a look at johnaarons youtube page, he has done some interesting tests about this.

Super

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2007, 01:20:36 PM »
@Paul-R,
Bedini used transistors and claimed o/u. I really can't see why solid state won't work.
As far as I see it, this circuit has nothing to do with radiant energy. This circuit is a
way of reusing the current we discharged from one battery and charge another battery.
Groundloop.
I'm not sure you are completely right here. I got this info from
Patrick Kelly at http://www.panaceauniversity.org/, and I did
not fully understand the message. It was about atmospheric
charges in balance with charges surrounding the poles of
the batteries, and when these latter charges go down, due
to current flow, they are replaced by atmospheric ones.
I will try and get a better explanation of the theory.
Paul.

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2007, 06:32:51 PM »
@The One,

Attached is MY control circuit. I will use the "old" and faitfull PIC16F84A micro controller.
Firm ware not done yet, this will come later. Full CAD drawing available if you want that.

Groundloop.

@ Groundloop,

I too, would like to replicate this switch. I have all the parts (including the PIC chip). If you are ready to release the software, I'll build it.

Cheers, sanmankl.

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2007, 06:33:20 PM »
@Groundloop,

good do see you here too.

would you share, once it is completed, your design so that I could build one and play with it too?

Do you think that the solid state would be equivalent to the physical switching like relays (I know relays are horrible in timing and synchronization)? The physical contacts cause sparks that It seams they have some secret sauce there.

Fausto.

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2007, 08:37:27 PM »
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Bedini did build a solid state circuit back in 1984. He states (in papers and also later on his web site) that this circuit works. I believe him. I have done a careful analyze of the papers and material available to me. My conclusion is that the transformers shown in the Bedini drawing is for controlling the base of the transistors and not for energy generating. Using a transformer like this was a common technique before optocouplers became available on the market. The transformer will insulate the transistor from the controlling circuit just as optocouplers do. So, yes, I do think a solid state version will work providing the switch it self is fast enough. The transistors I have selected is good for up to 30 MHz and that should be enough. If we use smaller batteries (say 9 V NiMh) then the 10 Amp. rating of the circuit will do fine as long as we use heat sink on the transistors.

Groundloop.

hey, good luck  ;)

be aware that transistors are often able to handle "high" clock rates but optocouplers maybe not ...
and yes, the coils are for physical seperation equal to optocouplers.

Bedini also says that he needs a lot of time to get his cigar box thing working, finetuning, time and knowledge what effect should happen hepled him ... -> will be hard work  :(

It's ok to build the switch directly if all parts are available, but if not it is more wisely to reproduce some mueller/bedini tests before ... e.g. try to reproduce the bright white spark with two batterys and fast switching (see mueller document)

For the microcontroller; use of RS232 and pc-software to set clockrates could be helpful  ;)

Best regards, Super

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« Reply #29 on: December 23, 2007, 09:31:04 PM »
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