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TheOne

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Tesla Switch need help
« on: September 17, 2007, 01:27:52 AM »
I would like to build the Tesla switch with 4 batteries, I see the plan but
its not clear about all the electrionics needed. My electronic skills is poor so I cannot "guest" what i need, for
example from this plan:

http://www.panaceauniversity.org/D3.pdf (Start at page 25 to 36))

Can someone help me for the electronics needed for that?

What I have in mind is first made the electronics then try the device with small AA batteries
and see what is going on then try using my UPS Backup + 3 other batteries so the objective is the power
a computer from it using no current from the grid using the inverter from the UPS backup. So the load will
be connected directly on the UPS backup.

Thaelin

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2007, 12:45:07 PM »
   For a start, just remember that when one side is on, the other has to be off. Other wise you have a dead short. Good rule would be to have a small delay between one switching off to the other switching on. Have fun.

thaelin

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2007, 01:08:47 PM »
Here you can get the Bedini T.switch report from the 80's
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/962-use-tesla-switch.html

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2007, 05:03:45 AM »
I know about all this link, but none show a complete diagram with a complete electrics  compomnent and guessing value in electronics is not my cup of tea!

Nali2001

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2007, 01:16:03 PM »
Well here is another, but rather incomplete test
http://www.ctglabs.com/tesla1.htm

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2007, 01:44:37 PM »
Hi TheOne,

maybe the videos http://www.youtube.com/user/johnaarons from John Aarons could be interesting for you.

Look at video 16x he has 3 projects, one of this projects is the 4 battery switch ...

John also shows some strange effects using one battery which seems to be selfcharging by pulsing a coil and getting the B-EMF back to battery.

yesterday i saw this effect live by a friends replication of the experiment done by bedini and co., look at the report.
frinds experiment: 2 NiCd batteries, 1 motor switch, a little load lamp
result: lamp first ligths normal, battery 1 full battery 2 empty. After ~ 20 min. battery 2 full voltage, battery 1 lost about 5% voltage lamp normal (a really small lamp !)
-> cool, ~ 2 full loaded batterys without power lost  :D ... ok it seems so, but after replacing the batterys and powering each one seperatly down over a bigger lamp, the battery 2 only lights this one for 2 seconds, battery one for 5 min.
dont know how long a full loaded battery would light the lamp ... so i could not say something about the losts on battery 1.

Something for the others:

I sayed "seems to be" because lead accid batteries could be almost empty and showing you 10 volts but under load you see that they are really "empty", put load away and the voltage slowly rises back to around 10 volts or so. without external circuit!

That not mean that the battery ist charged!

So to all other people who are experimenting with this device, please use a !full loaded! battery, rebuild john aarons one battery selfcharger and look if the voltage rises from this full loaded point! That i think i have to ask jhon aaron for ...

@ Nali2001

Bedini has used a 50/50 switch with the next impuls a little bit earlier as the first dies out, that mean he has uses a 51/50 pulsewidth  ;)
that could be the black pointed "mistake" in the drawings from the report paper ... but that was only for finetuning! i think not necessary...



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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2007, 04:25:40 PM »
   For a start, just remember that when one side is on, the other has to be off. Other wise you have a dead short. Good rule would be to have a small delay between one switching off to the other switching on. Have fun.
thaelin
I believe that the switching rate needs to be at least 100 times
a second. But not more than 800 c.ps. when things could get
hazardous. There must be a ready built switching unit out there
somewhere. Who would need it? What for? If it can be found, it
might cost less than a fiver.
 

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2007, 06:41:06 PM »
Please watch the new videos 204 from john aaron (the link is postet above), i think its almost the same experiment as performed by Eike Mueller and Bedini ... lets hope that john let his system run for a time longer than the power of 2 full loaded batteries could light this load for a really good proof after all the years ...

Super

TheOne

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2007, 11:53:36 PM »
john don't do a true tesla switch, the batteries are always connected without any switch at all unfortunitly.

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2007, 12:43:30 PM »
@ TheOne

yes, its not a 4 battery switch but basics for it.

You say he isn't using a "switch", you are right, thats the reason why the second batteries didn't charge.

But he has the pulsing, you know pulsing is the big hit in this circuit ... so i ask him for longer tests to see if
the effect he has filmed is only an effect or some real.

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2007, 12:35:24 AM »
Well here is another, but rather incomplete test
http://www.ctglabs.com/tesla1.htm


HERE , THIS IS ONE OF MANY CIRCUITS THAT CAN NEVER WORK
(Naudin CLG and more)

If you schown first circuit :
3 Volt s  Batteries  MINUS reveres 1,5 Volts from an second Battery -resume-  only 1,5 Vlt SUPPLY  voltage. !!

It give not give any "sense" ,..(to understand,now )..
1,5 Volts - for POWER.SUPPLY. is to "LOW"  because
Saturation volt - from transistor  , additionally LOSSES ( Vf ) of the DIODE , make a additonally  LOST over 1,5 Volts !!!
So that circuit produce , that NO any energy can flow from batteries to the load !!

NONSENSE , withSENSE , that NOTHING was "tested"
inly "publishing" for fishing "readers" from "moneymakers"

Pese

www.pese.cjb.net
(sorry , thelinks contains also , a lot of "untrues"
« Last Edit: September 21, 2007, 08:08:58 AM by pese »

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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2007, 02:46:47 PM »
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2007, 02:50:43 PM »
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2007, 02:56:55 PM »
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Re: Tesla Switch need help
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2007, 04:02:55 PM »
@Groundloop, thank you I like PIC microchip, you can do so many thing with them!

Also what program are you using to draw your drawing? autocad?

The PIC controller is a good idea, the funny thing about it is the other week I ordered a PIC programmer tool/RS232.

I am a programmer not a electric guys, Its more easy for me working with a chip vs standard circuit. I hope receive my stuffs soon, I have an idea about the so called TPU, I begin to think the TPU is like a MEG in a ring. Since I will start work with PIC soon, I want to make my TPU with a PIC microchip and have fun with it.

And I will start a Bedini replication soon, I will use a PIC microchip also for controlling the switching, max rpm and show the RPM/TEMP on a LCD screen :)

But for the tesla switch, it something I need to test also, But i will use smaller batteries, I am about to order small 3.7v batteries (Rechargeable Lithium Li Battery) and hopefully get it soon. The tesla switch don't need to use 12v batteries :)