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Author Topic: Apparatus for self-generating a driving force, patent applied and video?  (Read 12336 times)

Offline ken_nyus

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While googling the author and company name for US patent #6731035, "Apparatus for generating autogenic energy", I ran across information about another applied patent from the same company called "Apparatus for self-generating a driving force", which describes an ultra simple magnet and coil set up.

And at this page:

http://forgotten-genius.com/03c198996114b5803/03c19899880c15601/index.html

There is a video of something spinning, which accelerates after an initial push. It is not clear if the device in the video is meant to be a working version of the patent.



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Re: Apparatus for self-generating a driving force, patent applied and video?
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2007, 10:11:35 AM »
Sorry Ken,

I don't know how real this is, a search of the US Patent Office returned no results. It strikes me as odd that the USPTO would accept a patent application that claims perpetual motion in the first sentence. But stranger things have happened.

The patent is of course total nonsense as far as accepted laws of physics are concerned, but since when has that stopped anyone who was trying to screw money out of Mr. and Mrs. Dumbarse Public. :-)

I am sure Lawrence Tseung can see the Lead out energy in this.

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Re: Apparatus for self-generating a driving force, patent applied and video?
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2007, 10:38:59 AM »
The patent is of course total nonsense as far as accepted laws of physics are concerned, but since when has that stopped anyone who was trying to screw money out of Mr. and Mrs. Dumbarse Public. :-)

I am sure Lawrence Tseung can see the Lead out energy in this.

Hans von Lieven.

Lol!
Actually, Tseung is at least very close tied to it. He is promoting the above video (and another similar one) on youtube.
(Too bad that those two wires quietly go out of the frame? otherwise I would be instantly convinced, no matter what science says about it.)

Tinu

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Re: Apparatus for self-generating a driving force, patent applied and video?
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2007, 10:38:59 AM »
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Re: Apparatus for self-generating a driving force, patent applied and video?
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2007, 10:43:47 AM »
While googling the author and company name for US patent #6731035, "Apparatus for generating autogenic energy", I ran across information about another applied patent from the same company called "Apparatus for self-generating a driving force", which describes an ultra simple magnet and coil set up.

And at this page:

http://forgotten-genius.com/03c198996114b5803/03c19899880c15601/index.html

There is a video of something spinning, which accelerates after an initial push. It is not clear if the device in the video is meant to be a working version of the patent.




Found the patent application on USPTO:
http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=20030210003&OS=20030210003&RS=20030210003

Also, see attached PDF version.  I have not read this yet, so have no opinion on it until later.

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Re: Apparatus for self-generating a driving force, patent applied and video?
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2007, 11:43:17 AM »
Sorry jeffc,

You are right, I got the number wrong on my search, I just checked.

Sorry fellows.

Incidentally Tinu can you explain the significance of what looks like a two dollar digital clock in the foreground? Some sort of esoteric measuring device perchance?

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Re: Apparatus for self-generating a driving force, patent applied and video?
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Re: Apparatus for self-generating a driving force, patent applied and video?
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2007, 01:40:16 PM »
Looks like a simple timer Hans.

I don't have the link handy right now, but I did find this on some international patent site, and it shows as patent applied in several countries. I will search for this again. The Canadian patent application seems current and up to date, and showed as being scheduled for review in July 2007.

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Re: Apparatus for self-generating a driving force, patent applied and video?
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Re: Apparatus for self-generating a driving force, patent applied and video?
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2007, 04:56:25 PM »
Incidentally Tinu can you explain the significance of what looks like a two dollar digital clock in the foreground? Some sort of esoteric measuring device perchance?

Looks like a simple timer Hans.

I agree; it must be a timer.
The reason for placing it there is unknown to me but I suppose it is just for proving that the video is not faked and that the device accelerates in time. You may ask Tseung directly about it. He should know.
The timer does not bother me at all; it?s the wires that do. I?ve conducted many similar experiments in the past. Never seen ou along this line.

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Re: Apparatus for self-generating a driving force, patent applied and video?
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2007, 05:30:11 PM »
Lol!
Actually, Tseung is at least very close tied to it. He is promoting the above video (and another similar one) on youtube.
(Too bad that those two wires quietly go out of the frame? otherwise I would be instantly convinced, no matter what science says about it.)

Tinu

Hey Tinu,

Would you have a link to those youTube videos? I can't seem to find LTseung on youtube

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Re: Apparatus for self-generating a driving force, patent applied and video?
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Re: Apparatus for self-generating a driving force, patent applied and video?
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2007, 05:45:06 PM »
Would you have a link to those youTube videos? I can't seem to find LTseung on youtube

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BX0hoiVnrxA
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CT9EPYHDjDg

search for "ltseung888"

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Re: Apparatus for self-generating a driving force, patent applied and video?
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2007, 04:10:58 AM »
I agree, I am always dubious about any "free energy" device that shows wires coming out of it in the video.  Some type of power is operating that coil...where does it come from?  I didn't see any device that would produce energy from the rotating mass that could power the pulse coil.  Am I missing something here? (Iwhich is always possible)

Bill

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Re: Apparatus for self-generating a driving force, patent applied and video?
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Re: Apparatus for self-generating a driving force, patent applied and video?
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2007, 08:51:15 AM »
Am I missing something here?
Bill

Of course you are Bill. You are missing what is on the other side of these two wires. :-)

Hans von Lieven

 

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