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Offline usama salah

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new powerfull gravity turbine at perpetual motion
« on: September 15, 2007, 11:01:16 PM »
new gravity wheel and turbine theory( free energy)
i found out a new design of a gravity wheel and turbine ,use all its mass at one side of the wheel rotating round its axle and convert 95% from its mass potential energy to generat kinetic energy using less than 5% of its mass power for friction and regenerate or reconstruct its mass.
it's a new working theory , very simple and logical , so we can prove it, and calculate its output energy , just by its design
it's a perpetual motion and gravity as a new sorse of energy that using newton law not against it or violent it.
and now why we don't use gravity power as a renewable and clean energy?
i see a lot of this gravity wheel and motor at the following sites
http://www.fuellesspower.com/6_Gravity2.htm
http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:Gravity_Motors
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6817180-claims.html
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/11/328724.html?c=on#c136644
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=5637
http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/
http://www.guns.connect.fi/innoplaza/energy/conference/Weinfelden/
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/hfrnrgen.htm
http://www.keelynet.com/davidson/npap1.htm
http://www.rexresearch.com/tewari/tewari.htm
http://www.allanstime.com/UnifiedFieldTheory/gravity.htm
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2006107313
http://www.allanstime.com/UnifiedFieldTheory/gravity.htm
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7134283.html
http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/2depalma.html
http://www.etheric.com/GalacticCenter/Gravity.html
http://www.free-energy.ws/
http://www.eagle-research.com/fenergy/gravity.html
http://64.233.183.104/search
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lD_65ggChs
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLJ_enEG232EG232&q=gravity+motor
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Andy_Gravity-Magnet_Motor
http://www.fuellesspower.com/gravity2.html
http://www.evert.de/eft786e.htm
http://www.gravitymotor.net/
http://www.skdynamics.com/gravitymotor/index.htm
i think most of those designs are very good but not complete , and the one who do that must catch the my opinion true theory of how to get energy from gravity ,or most of them must catch my design wheel from a long time ago!
but i don't know why they didn't? why there isn't uses of a working gravity turbine until now?
if we have a good design for a perpetual motion and already we have the gravity power , then we must use them to generat energy.
maybe i'm the lucky one !
ok, no problem of whatever i think about . my new design is not like any of what i found in those sites it is completly different , and powerfull .
it is a new source of renewable energy.that use whatever amount of mass you need at only one side and one position of the wheel in a perpetual motion design.the same as what used with water and wind wheel and turbine ( one amount of force at one side  maybe one position of the wheel) . it's a relation between potential power , and in the other side the power that effect the mass to make it as a potential power.
i think that ,
what was a dream before, today become a true.

how can i put my invention at the right way for common use ,

at last i 'm sure there is no mistake in my wheel and it's logicaly as the same like water turbine or wind turbine.
i keep searching for my new theory and design at net sites from 4 months without any positive similar design , what it means!!!!?

thank you ,and sorry for my bore language ,

usama mohamed salah

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Offline JamesThomas

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Re: new powerfull gravity turbine at perpetual motion
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2007, 11:27:42 PM »
Welcome to the forum, Usama.

It sounds as if you have only a theory on paper, and no actual working prototype. Or, do you have a working model?

Are you willing to share more information? Or are you keeping it all secret, unless one is willing to invest?

j

Offline usama salah

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Re: new powerfull gravity turbine at perpetual motion
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2007, 12:23:01 AM »
that is right i don't have an actual working prototype , becuase  it is more simple to understand for anyone  even who is unscientific but have the minimum knowledge of high school and good logical mind.the same like if i show you a design for a water wheel or turbine you don't need a prototype to understand or prove it ,
i know it's very important to make a working one to prove what you said, but with my very simple portotype for my new theory ,i understood that i don't need to make a complete one .
i can't believe that no one know or catch my design before with all our technology.

so i don't keep it as a secrit, and i will puplish it after 3 or 4 month until i got my patent paper to keep my right , and within this months i will looking for an investor ,
and believe my , there is no investor for a simple reason ,this invention will effect the other investment of the energy industry.

again sorry for my bore language
that is my opinion

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Re: new powerfull gravity turbine at perpetual motion
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2007, 12:23:01 AM »
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Offline shruggedatlas

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Re: new powerfull gravity turbine at perpetual motion
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2007, 01:07:37 AM »
that is right i don't have an actual working prototype , becuase  it is more simple to understand for anyone  even who is unscientific but have the minimum knowledge of high school and good logical mind.the same like if i show you a design for a water wheel or turbine you don't need a prototype to understand or prove it ,
i know it's very important to make a working one to prove what you said, but with my very simple portotype for my new theory ,i understood that i don't need to make a complete one .
i can't believe that no one know or catch my design before with all our technology.

so i don't keep it as a secrit, and i will puplish it after 3 or 4 month until i got my patent paper to keep my right , and within this months i will looking for an investor ,
and believe my , there is no investor for a simple reason ,this invention will effect the other investment of the energy industry.

again sorry for my bore language
that is my opinion

You may not be able to file a patent on a perpetual motion device unless you have a working prototype.

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Re: new powerfull gravity turbine at perpetual motion
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2007, 02:13:37 AM »
that is right i don't have an actual working prototype , becuase  it is more simple to understand for anyone  even who is unscientific but have the minimum knowledge of high school and good logical mind.the same like if i show you a design for a water wheel or turbine you don't need a prototype to understand or prove it ,
i know it's very important to make a working one to prove what you said, but with my very simple portotype for my new theory ,i understood that i don't need to make a complete one .
i can't believe that no one know or catch my design before with all our technology.

so i don't keep it as a secrit, and i will puplish it after 3 or 4 month until i got my patent paper to keep my right , and within this months i will looking for an investor ,
and believe my , there is no investor for a simple reason ,this invention will effect the other investment of the energy industry.

again sorry for my bore language
that is my opinion

If your idea has true merit and will indeed effect the energy industry, then like those who came before you, you will likely be silenced by whatever means deemed necessary, and your idea will never see the light of day.

That is why this is an open source forum, where ideas are shared openly and freely that any valid and far reaching ideas will be too widely known and distributed to ever be silenced or hidden. Here, it's about putting the world and environment first, and our wallets second. Also because of the openness, there is a free flow of help and ideas from many very knowledgeable people from various disciplines to help work out the problems and so allow things to come together efficiently and effectively.

Good luck to you.
j

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Re: new powerfull gravity turbine at perpetual motion
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Offline shruggedatlas

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Re: new powerfull gravity turbine at perpetual motion
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2007, 02:17:49 AM »
If your idea has true merit and will indeed effect the energy industry, then like those who came before you, you will likely be silenced by whatever means deemed necessary, and your idea will never see the light of day.

You mean like they silenced Leonardo DaVinci?  I think the only thing that has so far silenced perpetual motion are the laws of physics, as we understand them.

Usama, feel free to keep your invention private, if you so desire.  Profit is a great motivator, and hopefully it will cause someone to produce something revolutionary someday in the field of free energy.

Offline Gearhead

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Re: new powerfull gravity turbine at perpetual motion
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2007, 04:07:17 AM »
I have been on the Bessler forum for years and have seen many designs come and go.  Hundreds of years ago people tried making a gravity wheel work by making one side heavier or the weights farther from center than the other.

What it all really boils down to is that on a wheel the weight must rise as far as it falls and therefore there is no excess energy.

It might be possible to get some other forces working in your favor like inertia or centrifugal force, but as far as I know Bessler is the only person to ever build a successful gravity wheel and he took the concept with him when he died.

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Re: new powerfull gravity turbine at perpetual motion
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2007, 04:39:05 AM »
G'day Usama and all,

Come back when you have built something. Things that are only in the mind or on paper are often not real, as are Youtube videos. The only way there is to prove (even to yourself) the validity of your theories is to build the thing and study its behaviour.

Hans von Lieven

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Re: new powerfull gravity turbine at perpetual motion
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2007, 02:35:48 AM »

good day
and thanks for all
i will take care of all your recommandations

first let me ask a some questions:
1-  if we put 101 books each over other , every book = 1 kg ,
how much weight do the first book from bottom carry up = ????

2- if each book has 10cm then we have 1010 cm in high,
how much force we need to move one book up for 1010 cm at one second by any way of newton law =????

3- to make a perpetual motion ,
if we get the first book from the bottom out, then we have two actions 
    a- the 100 books will fall down for just 10 cm by  gravity power of 100 kg at less than one second
    b- we need less than 2 kg to move this free book up and put it on the top ( reconstruct the poiential power of 101 books).

( that is not a wheel but we can put evry book on the one side arms of a wheel ,or like steam wheel )


   with comparing between what we gain and what we lose for reconstruct our shape in the meaning of power if we could do that automaticly, we observe that it's possible to make a perpetual motion that generate more power than it used for keep rotating ( it dosn't use all its power) , then the problem is how to desing this automatic motion or perpetual motion.

this is not my invention at all ,this is a facts and i tried to explain it in other view to make somebody believe of gravity energy, and i hope that.


also , when we gain a little amount of power from any gravity wheel, and we use a multi wheel at one axle then we gain more power from this axle as a turbine.

the problem is, how is the good design looks like ? and who can or could do it ?


at last i will give you a very simple design for my gravity wheel as soon as i can , and please make your mind to find out the relation between gravity wheel and flotation wheel , and between gravbity effect and flotation effect. and what is the theory that make you  use any power to rotat the same wheel ( wind,fallwater,gravity,magnetic,flotation,.....) with a simple change of some parts.
you can draw it on a paper before any prototype.

i hope my boring english not effect my object meaning


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Re: new powerfull gravity turbine at perpetual motion
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Re: new powerfull gravity turbine at perpetual motion
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2007, 03:00:37 AM »
G'day Usama,

Never be ashamed of your English, we all had to learn it sometime, it"ll get better with time. I am sure few of us would be competent in your language, whatever that is.

As to your example of a stack of books you must consider the amount of force required to liberate the bottom book and allow the rest of the stack to drop. Don't forget in your calculation that the entire weight of the stack sits on it.

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Re: new powerfull gravity turbine at perpetual motion
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2007, 03:03:23 AM »

good day
and thanks for all
i will take care of all your recommandations

first let me ask a some questions:
1-  if we put 101 books each over other , every book = 1 kg ,
how much weight do the first book from bottom carry up = ????

2- if each book has 10cm then we have 1010 cm in high,
how much force we need to move one book up for 1010 cm at one second by any way of newton law =????

3- to make a perpetual motion ,
if we get the first book from the bottom out, then we have two actions 
    a- the 100 books will fall down for just 10 cm by  gravity power of 100 kg at less than one second
    b- we need less than 2 kg to move this free book up and put it on the top ( reconstruct the poiential power of 101 books).

What you are describing is a type of perpetually unbalanced system.  People have been trying to do this exact thing.  The reason it has not worked so far is there is no practical way to keep the heavy side (100 books) from balancing itself by coming over to the light side (1 book).  If you have a method of doing this, you are golden.  Can't wait to see what you have.

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Re: new powerfull gravity turbine at perpetual motion
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2007, 03:26:38 AM »
The question is;

1) How much power will you consume to "pull" the book from under the weight of 100 books fast enough to make the others fall.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2007, 03:51:34 AM by wattsup »

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Re: new powerfull gravity turbine at perpetual motion
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2007, 03:34:19 AM »
G'day all,

I think usama is thinking about this sort of device:

(http://www.lhup.edu/%7Edsimanek/museum/gearcoil.gif)

It has been around since at least the 1950's. No-one has got it to work yet

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Re: new powerfull gravity turbine at perpetual motion
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2007, 04:09:05 AM »
Hi Usama,

first let me ask a some questions:
1-  if we put 101 books each over other , every book = 1 kg ,
how much weight do the first book from bottom carry up = ????

2- if each book has 10cm then we have 1010 cm in high,
how much force we need to move one book up for 1010 cm at one second by any way of newton law =????

3- to make a perpetual motion ,
if we get the first book from the bottom out, then we have two actions 
    a- the 100 books will fall down for just 10 cm by  gravity power of 100 kg at less than one second
    b- we need less than 2 kg to move this free book up and put it on the top ( reconstruct the poiential power of 101 books).

The energy you get from the 100 1kg books falling 10cm is 100kg * 0.1m * 9.8 m/s2 = 98J.

The energy required to lift one book up 1000 cm is 1kg * 10m * 9.8 m/s2 = 98J.

Simple calculations like these show why these overbalanced wheel things never work on paper.  If they work in practice, it's because there's something about simple mechanics that we don't know.

Cheers,

Mr. Entropy

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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2007, 04:19:15 AM »
LOL entropy,

Well said :-)

Simple calculations like these show why these overbalanced wheel things never work on paper.  If they work in practice, it's because there's something about simple mechanics that we don't know.

Cheers,
Mr. Entropy

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