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Title: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: hartiberlin on September 14, 2007, 12:05:04 PM
Hi All,
please post your suggestion, what Windows users should try as their
Linux desktop distribution, which has a very simular usage
as Windows XP, so one has not much to relearn the
operating surface to handle ?

What would you suggest to install which distribution ?
Ubunto Studio ?
Kanotix ?
Debian ?

Just tell us, what you like and dislike.
What graphical surface is better ?
X
or
KDE
or which other one ?
Which is most simular to control like Windows XP ?
Please let us know.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: FreeEnergy on September 14, 2007, 12:10:24 PM
again use http://xubuntu.org or http://fedoraproject.org  ;D

- my opinion

peace
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: Tink on September 14, 2007, 06:39:30 PM
Hi HartiBerlin,

Some months ago I went from Win XP to UBUNTU and after some little misunderstandings sorted out I am now a Linux only user.
I must say I am very happy with it and should have done this years earlier.
My fav Windows only games I run with Wine and they run fine (Counterstrike and Counterstrike Source).
Ubuntu is Debian Linux (very stable) with a Gnome interface and you have to get used to it, but I like it after I found my way in it.
Some people like KDE more then Gnome because it looks more like Windows, but I have been told that Gnome is more stable so I stick with that.
If you like KDE better you could try KUBUNTU.
You can also try UBUNTU out by running it from CD-Rom so you can get a feel of it but it will be slow so be warned.
I am very happy with UBUNTU because I can do everything on it I could do with XP, but now for free and with auto updates without the DRM crap and other spyware.
Just thought of that,....have to install a Virusscanner still oops ::)
Maybe other distro's are just as good as UBUNTU I can't say much of all the others.
For UBUNTU goto:
http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/philosophy
I hope my info was useful.

Tink.
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: oroshay on September 14, 2007, 06:54:00 PM
Hello,

I have used Linux for very many years now and the newest Distros are realy very good indeed.

The best plan is to use as many as you can untill you finally settle on one that you like.

Go to http://distrowatch.com/ and look down the right side to see a list of all the Distros that are popular at the present time. Choosing from the top ten is certainly recommended. Download their live cds and try each one out.

I love PCLinuxOS for my favourite all time distro, but before that it was Mepis. Ubuntu doesn't live up to its own hipe that it is an easy one for windows users to migrate to. It has a very un windows desktop and needs a lot of time to learn it, if coming straight from windows.

Live CDs have the option to install to your hard drive and include partion tools and installers that are wizard driven GUIs to make it as easy as possible for the first timer.

You will find adverts for cheap to buy Linux CDs that will save your downloading bandwidth. Priced at only a few pounds or dollars each they represent excellent value for money.

Hope this helps you to go FREE. It really is a breath of fresh air compaired to the big brother M$ operating system.

Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on September 14, 2007, 07:10:32 PM
this is an easy one, but not free ,

http://www.linspire.com/

Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: wile_coyote7 on September 14, 2007, 07:19:52 PM
Go here:

http://distrowatch.com/

There's a ratings chart on the right side of the page:

Rank     Distribution     H.P.D* (Hits per day)
1    Ubuntu    2530<
2    PCLinuxOS    2518>
3    openSUSE    1422<
4    Fedora    1284=
5    Sabayon    1198>
6    Mint    1012<
7    Debian    1003<
8    MEPIS    868=
9    Mandriva    748<
10    Damn Small    666<
11    Slackware    585=
12    CentOS    543<
13    Gentoo    508<
14    KNOPPIX    469<
15    Zenwalk    462<
16    Kubuntu    450<
17    Puppy    425=
18    Arch    390=
19    Dreamlinux    372=
20    Vector    362<

That's just the top 20.
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: Unicron on September 14, 2007, 07:30:54 PM
@lltfdaniel1  :good one!! ;D

How about Linspire (formarly knows as lindows)

The goal of the distro is to give windows users the most easy distro to get to know.
its debean based( i think)

I'm a die hard slackware fan myself :)
Title: apt-get & Aptitude - versus - RPM or urpmi
Post by: Earl on September 14, 2007, 10:45:12 PM
Harti,
in Linux installing and uninstalling programs can be greatly complicated due to program dependencies.
Some people think that distros using RPM or urpmi are a nightmare compared to distros using apt-get & Aptitude.

> What graphical surface is better ?
> X or
> KDE
> or which other one ?

Which color is better for an auto?  Bue?  Green?  Red?   ??

With Ubuntu, you can try three different GUIs:

Ubuntu has Gnome as default
Kubuntu has KDE as default
Xubuntu has Xcfe as default
Xubuntu with "alternate" install, can be used on older computers with limited resources.

If you ask 100 people which is the best, you will have 100 different answers.

You can even have desktops on rotating 3-D cubes, but this takes more memory, faster CPU, faster graphics card, etc.

I suggest trying out all three versions of Ubuntu as live CD just to see which you prefer, and then install your preference.
A live CD is VERY slow, so it is just for testing, not for using.

There must be a reason why Ubuntu is the number 1 distro.  I suggest trying both Ubuntu and Kubuntu to start with.
The next version of Ubuntu is due in October.
Remember Ubuntu and Kubuntu come with both Gnome and KDE, and you can change from one to the other.
Search Google:
ubuntu change from gnome to kde

From the Net:
http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2006/08/13/changing-from-ubuntu-to-kubuntu/

Than you for the information I was able to get it to work from the live cd Also I was able to get on the internet wirelessly under Gnome and KDE With Wep. Tried Knoppix 5.0.1 It was hell to do this.
Ubuntu Rocks!!!!!! All distros should allow the user to have all 3 desktops Gnome, KDE, and Xfce under a single login.

Read comments at:
http://lifehacker.com/software/linux-tip/hide-kde-apps-in-gnome-menus-280027.php

How important is generating PDFs to you?  Maybe this would influence your decision?

Regards, Earl
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: Unicron on September 14, 2007, 10:53:05 PM
hahaha, hope you do not have hardware that requires a kernel compile   lol
i remember my first..pfff that was a b#tch!
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: norman6538 on September 15, 2007, 04:02:24 AM
I use various linux distributions but the ones to try are the live cd ones.
Then when you get a feel for it you can install it on your disk by shrinking
the partition that is there if its not full then adding linux to the end of
the partition and then a grub menu boot lets you pick the one you want.


I like slax which is slackware but the real problem is getting
all the mix and matchesto work like your printer and your laptop
wireless card etc.

And the live cd will not get a virus....

At work some applications dictate the linux version so I don't get
to pick them.
Ask more if you need more.

Norman
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: oroshay on September 15, 2007, 07:27:02 AM
I came accross this page which might clarify things a bit for you.


Linux is Not Windows!
http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm

But do try the live CDs and see which one you get on with.

Regards

Oroshay
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: Thaelin on September 18, 2007, 12:01:24 PM
@ Unicorn:
   Yep, them was the good old days. I am one program short of going all linux. I had a 486-133 (which I still have) to run linux on. Re-compiles took for ever but its what you had to do. I felt like the master of error codes for a while. I grew up in Unix so it was a natural for me to move over to it.

thaelin
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: Super God on December 28, 2007, 10:51:56 PM
Fedora is my favorite distribution to use.  The newer versions require quite a bit of RAM though.
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: Localjoe on December 28, 2007, 10:54:15 PM
Suse for 2nd box and knoppix for on the road  along with Whoppix....  gotta love the live cd versions
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: MeggerMan on December 28, 2007, 11:12:37 PM
Hi,
I use Ubuntu - Breezy Badger? KDE desktop (I think), I will get around to upgrading to the latest version sometime.
Toying with getting that new glide interface to work with the graphics card - sort of 3D cube interface similar to Vista.

I was looking at another persons XP PC during the xmas break and it was so bogged down with virus scanners that even after 20 minutes after power on you could not use it. I think the PC needs a re-build and the McAfee virus scanner tweaking somewhat.

Regards
Rob
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: mdh on December 29, 2007, 12:34:16 AM
I've used Puppy Linux  :-[ very successfully.

Its small enough to run from a usb key, so no need to install on the harddrive! ;D
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: Thaelin on January 02, 2008, 10:00:56 AM
   Your friend there obviously has a lot of programs loading in the background and is set to do a scan at powerup each time. Most programs now a days are set to run at power on in the background for "ease of use". Just hogs resources.
   On a good note, try BitDefenderPro. One ruthless proggie. Mine is set to full scan once a week and watches all incomming.

thaelin


Hi,
I use Ubuntu - Breezy Badger? KDE desktop (I think), I will get around to upgrading to the latest version sometime.
Toying with getting that new glide interface to work with the graphics card - sort of 3D cube interface similar to Vista.

I was looking at another persons XP PC during the xmas break and it was so bogged down with virus scanners that even after 20 minutes after power on you could not use it. I think the PC needs a re-build and the McAfee virus scanner tweaking somewhat.

Regards
Rob
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: Roen Hayden on January 16, 2008, 11:47:35 PM
Here check out this distribution of Linux has support for every thing you need already installed.

http://www.linuxmint.com/
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: exxcomm0n on June 09, 2008, 07:33:45 AM
Hi gents,

Nice to see some many Lusers!

I'm a debian devotee since a Maximum PC free CD introduction (it was Hamm I believe) but I recommend Ubuntu, or a flavor thereof, for 1st time XP/Vista jumpers.

But I haven't seen Compiz listed for a window manager.

True, it can be a bugger to get running, But when it is......it's REAL purty (pretty).

Truthfully, I like the desktop movements to have an application per desktop (I run a hexagon) and find it helps my productivity.
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: leo48 on June 09, 2008, 09:28:43 AM
I use Linux since 1993 and now I installed on my
computer only Fedora 8
Hello to all
leo48
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: Yucca on June 09, 2008, 12:21:49 PM
For Windows users wanting to go to Linux the easiest & fastest way is to get the latest Ubuntu distribution:

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download

It's very easy to install and mantain it and much more stable than Vista or XP.
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: hartiberlin on September 21, 2008, 11:15:27 PM
What is the best free firewall software for Ubuntu or Linux in general ?

Have not had time to switch finally to Linux.
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: cyclopz on September 22, 2008, 04:28:31 AM
I've been using Ubuntu as my sole OS for a while now. Overall I'm happy with it. I've customized it to look like a Mac sort of. My one complaint is that flash sometimes crashes firefox but that's an adobe problem. I like Ubuntu a lot. I've never tried any other distros though.
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: exxcomm0n on September 22, 2008, 05:39:30 AM
Hi Stephan,

For firewall, I suggest you use a hardware device like a wireless router (some can be reprogrammed with a linux variant that makes them comparable to some seriously capable and expensive security and remote access networking hardware -- www.openwrt.org).

If you still want a PC based firewall, I've used the firestarter program for a very friendly interface to iptables. Firewall builder is good too.
If you are looking to make a PC your router/firewall, there are many mini-distros built just for that purpose that will work.
Many have very low overhead and can be run on older "junk" machines.

If you're looking for linux software of any type, try www.freshmeat.net and use the search function.
This site has the best overview of linux software in my experience.

I hope you make the switch to linux as I've always found it to be much more stable and capable than windows products and it allows me to run multiple types of servers and services securely.

 
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: FreeEnergy on September 22, 2008, 08:37:50 AM
What is the best free firewall software for Ubuntu or Linux in general ?

Have not had time to switch finally to Linux.

Ubuntu has a great section for help, go to http://help.ubuntu.com or https://wiki.ubuntu.com

here is how you would set up a firewall for an example:
https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/keeping-safe/C/firewall.html

Also go with a hardware type of fire wall, works best. Software firewalls are pretty safe too though.


EDIT - I am starting to like Ubuntu better now than Xubuntu even though they are both excellent operating systems. I've been using Ubuntu for a while now :) still need to try Gobuntu.


peace
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: FreeEnergy on September 22, 2008, 11:24:43 AM
update:
i have now installed gobuntu via virtualbox :)

i am now looking at ubuntu studio which i haven't heard of until now, looks pretty nice!
time to create a new virtual operating system :)



from http://ubuntustudio.org:

Ubuntu Studio. A multimedia creation flavor of Ubuntu.

Ubuntu Studio is aimed at the GNU/Linux audio, video and graphic enthusiast as well as professional.

We provide a suite of the best open-source applications available for multimedia creation. Completely free to use, modify and redistribute. Your only limitation is your imagination.
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: Tink on September 22, 2008, 11:47:01 AM
HartiBerlin,

For what I understand now is that Linux has always a firewall running and that program is called IPtables (as ExxComm0n said above).
I didn't know that in the beginning and started to look for a program because I was worried.
I downloaded Firestarter which is only a grafical front end for IPtables so I thought I was protected at last  ;D
Linux has many nice suprises, but you need to take some time to get used to it.
I am still using Ubuntu by the way (latest version Hardy Heron).
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: Nabo00o on April 14, 2009, 01:41:34 PM
I have been using Ubuntu 8.10 for about half a year now, in a dual boot mode so that I can switch back and forth between it and Vista (bad choice though, better with XP).
In addition I installed Virtual Box on Ubuntu so that I can run any version of windows I would like, almost without backdraws, and for things like Adobe, Maya or other programs which I am too lazy to move I can just restart on Vista again  :)
Oh and one more thing: You don't need any anti spyware or firewall's on Linux, the security is much tighter than on windows, still not in the irritating fashion like on windows.
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: reada on April 14, 2009, 02:01:29 PM
I love my linux mint - as the majority said ubuntu is the way to go
Mint is just another chassis for ubuntu but has a lot of very handy features

(im using gnome - the mint- menu is like the suse-menu (that i loved too) and that behaves just like a tuned windows menu)

The FlashProblem sucked !!!!
just today i deinstalled the Flash-nonfree plugin and installed the version 10.0.22.87-2intrepid1 as it popped up in the softwaremanager (that every windows user will love cause its so very easy) since than no stucking videos ...
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: Michelinho on April 14, 2009, 02:33:45 PM


Hi all,

My favorites are in order of personal preference:

PC-BSD, much safer than any Linux distro. It is the only one that I use now. Not as up to date in flash or other proprietary softwares. It has come a long way but still some issues.

Mandriva Powerpack as it comes with very good video drivers and is easy to setup and work with. Somewhat safe.

Ubuntu, the easiest of all to use and setup and comes with good drivers. Somewhat safe.

Take care,

Michel

Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: newbie123 on May 09, 2009, 02:44:14 AM
Ubuntu 8.10  is my favorite, runs rock solid with my ATI video card, and ABIT main board ... Careful with Ubuntu 9.10 ...  I think it has some bugs that need to be worked out.. I installed it, then had to revert back to 8.1
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: Nabo00o on May 09, 2009, 02:19:10 PM
Ubuntu 8.10  is my favorite, runs rock solid with my ATI video card, and ABIT main board ... Careful with Ubuntu 9.10 ...  I think it has some bugs that need to be worked out.. I installed it, then had to revert back to 8.1

Really? How safe do you think it is to upgrade directly from the update list?
Anyway I felt the same too, it can be tested a bit more before I want to change, Interpried is more then enough for me  8)
Title: Re: what is the best any easiest to setup Linux distribution ?
Post by: Paul-R on May 09, 2009, 03:49:00 PM
Distrowatch does useful surveys and reviews:
http://distrowatch.com/
Paul.