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ashtweth_nihilisti

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Non RV generators coupled to the RV prime mover
« on: September 11, 2007, 03:39:50 AM »
Please post all here.

 A Fisher and Paykel Smartdrive motor out of a junked washing machine makes an excellent
415V AC generator to couple to the RV for producing up to 1.5KW of power. I can also be stepped down to produce 240V or 110V.
 
http://www.sustainability.ofm.uwa.edu.au/__data/page/83884/FP.pdf
 
Instruction on how to modify the wiring is there.
 
Also here: http://www.randysworkshop.com/

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Re: Non RV generators coupled to the RV prime mover
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2007, 04:25:00 AM »
  Hi Ash,

  Has anyone in the RV community managed an over unity set-up using this?

  Rich

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Re: Non RV generators coupled to the RV prime mover
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2007, 04:35:54 AM »
Hi Rich,

No sorry, no one has tested these yet, i have three here and am ATM looking at getting them re enforced for the RV, Hector has an idea to put them where the fan went as a loop whilst Freq driving a generator.

As far as RV OU goes, the most creditable source and report we have is the Neon switcher done by an open sourced engineer in France, (this can still add to that system to produce power) He has reported it being able to charge a secondary battery with no reflection to the battery driving it, (self running).

The Neon switcher has been posted a few times and is an easy circuit to replicate which clips the peak sine waves off the resonance. Still you need a suitable generator to produce power even if getting that circuit done.

I find this to be the cheapest PM Gen to use ATM.


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Re: Non RV generators coupled to the RV prime mover
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2007, 03:56:50 PM »
"As far as RV OU goes, the most creditable source and report we have is the Neon switcher done by an open sourced engineer in France, (this can still add to that system to produce power) He has reported it being able to charge a secondary battery with no reflection to the battery driving it, (self running)." ~ Ashtweth

@Anyone

Anyone know of any report with actual data and numbers and measurements and test methods on this report of overunity?  I looked at the one reference Ashtweth gave but found no real "report" that said anything more than the claim itself as he states it above.  The clear implication "(self-running)" says to me that the rate of charge on the one battery would need to be greater than the discharge rate of battery running the RV.  So I wonder if the loop was actually closed and it actually self ran?

It seems like there should be something somewhere that talks about how much free energy was delivered to the battery and at what rate and how it was shown that there was no reflection to the other battery.  It sounds like Ashtweth is telling us that this person was getting free mechanical torque and also producing a net positive electrical energy from a self-running machine.  That it would not only self-run but would forever charge batteries that were swapped around.

Is Ashtweth the only information source on this incredible claim and is the statement of the claim itself the totality of the report?  Anyone have anything from any other source on this matter?  Maybe something directly from the fellow making the claims?  I'm really very curious.

I can't ask Ashtweth directly because he won't speak to me or acknowledge me but it seems like this is an important claim and it should be explained in more detail with some data and all that.  Anybody else have info or agree we need this clarified better as a claim?

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Re: Non RV generators coupled to the RV prime mover
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2007, 12:23:01 AM »
@Hamburger, humblebee, Humbugger

I'm a vegetarian.
So, I do not waste my time posting in some 'meat-eating' forum. They, of course, do what they want.

My question is: What the f' heck are you bl..dy doing here?
Do you think the 'OU' supporters are so stupid?

Best?

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Re: Non RV generators coupled to the RV prime mover
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2007, 02:45:24 AM »
Have you ever lived through a blizzard or hurricane?   When water is needed and your well does not come because of no electricity and no fuel is available for the generator you soon realize a TRUE answer is needed and not a politically correct debate.  I understand him and everyone that survived through Katrina would as well.  Results are what is needed, not incorrect measurements or "just a little more tuning."

A real device is needed, Hum understands this.

Rich

P.S.  I was a vegetarian for 8 years...

ashtweth_nihilisti

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Re: Non RV generators coupled to the RV prime mover
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2007, 02:54:39 AM »
And i eat 10% ORGANIC meat and train 4 days a week at the gym.

Rich what is your Question?, there is no political debate here, if you have a genuine question i am happy to answer and provide reference, all references are provided to the materials posted in this thread and in the compilations, unless any one wants to suffer the same fate as you know who, i suggest you keep your skepticism, incessant drivel and lack of LAB tests to your self thanks.






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Re: Non RV generators coupled to the RV prime mover
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2007, 03:09:05 AM »
Hi Ash,

I have no quam with you, but when someone posts and attacks a member that is abit harsh but is obviously highly intelligent and knows what to look for..... I don't appreciate it.  The beauty of an o/u device is it should be just that...o/u.  When numbers do not add-up we need to accept this and move on.  I would never be acceptable as a supervisor because in my job results are not desired, they are demanded on a daily basis.  If I do not produce, or explain why a trouble was not cleared in a timely manner then I lose my job.....simple as that.  Once you've entered into that mind set for 7 years you come to a new understanding of what is expected...there is no gray area any more.  When hundreds of millions of dollars depend on your job being performed right, you try your best and you can bet I will make my equipment work one way or another with no customer ever knowing he was very close to loosing all communications in a given area with millions of dollars on the line in stock market as well as bank data being lost.

We have to get a free energy device or the world is simply doomed by polution and slavery to the energy industry, that's all....nothing much really at stake.

Just keep on trying Ash, I promise I will buddy!

Rich

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Re: Non RV generators coupled to the RV prime mover
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2007, 03:16:33 AM »
EDIT

What earned your friend the status has gone over your head, so dont make the same mistake Rich.
All references have been provided and measuring techniques, as you have not researched them and or verified them/disproved them the lab, you will earn yourself  the same status by me, to those that do it wont really matter , you may be able to find the advice you need with out my help,

It doesn't really matter to me, the RV is may not for you[those referenced] and is certainly is not for your Friend who tries to explain OU by conventional theories and does not build a thing to disprove it.and cannot read the references, this is the last post of this nature i will be answering.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47406.html#msg47406
Read this it seems this friend cant read and  back up what he says.

Any Genuine Questions may either be sent to me off list , where i can directly report from the engineers who did the tests and circuits and or here. Thanks.



« Last Edit: September 12, 2007, 07:57:14 AM by ashtweth_nihilisti »

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Re: Non RV generators coupled to the RV prime mover
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2007, 04:22:51 AM »
please stay on topic, i have sent your request to some RV engineers i know, mean time you have a solution posted here
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3229.0.html

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Re: Non RV generators coupled to the RV prime mover
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2007, 05:35:03 AM »
  Hi Ash,
 Has anyone in the RV community managed an over unity set-up using this?
  Rich

Rich, the idea I have is to couple this Gen to the RV where the fan went and FREQ drive it.
Couple another F and P motor to the shaft under load loop back the Gen where the fan is.

F and P------RV-----coupled F and P gen-Load

If any thing i expect it more efficient then any motor Gen for that price, more Freq driving of the RV and this efficient Gen needs testing.


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Re: Non RV generators coupled to the RV prime mover
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2007, 07:29:24 AM »
"As far as RV OU goes, the most creditable source and report we have is the Neon switcher done by an open sourced engineer in France, (this can still add to that system to produce power) He has reported it being able to charge a secondary battery with no reflection to the battery driving it, (self running)." ~ Ashtweth's exact words from this very thread

So...lots of hateful put-downs and some open threats to other members of ostracism and an unspecified "fate" that Astweth apparently has the power to mete out to the unfaithful.  Shades of the Inquisition!  Believe or be punished!  Accept what I say without question! 

Plus three descriptions of members' personal diets past and present and Ashtweth's weekly workout schedule...and his accusations of others going off-topic!   

No answers to the simple straightforward totally on-topic questions:  "I wonder what he means by "(self-running)"?  Is there an actual report?  Is there any corroboration?  Anyone heard about this from another source?". 

Can anyone offer any further information on this "reported report" of a "(self-running)" rotoverter?   

Humbugger ~ On Topic and Still Curious
« Last Edit: September 12, 2007, 01:58:40 PM by Humbugger »

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Re: Non RV generators coupled to the RV prime mover
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2007, 07:51:07 AM »
Other suggestions are the Ecklin Brown magnetic interrupter Gen to couple to the RV Prime mover.

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Re: Non RV generators coupled to the RV prime mover
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2007, 08:06:34 AM »
@Ashtweth

Over in the old thread on the Chas gravity wheel, you requested anyone find for you the Stefan post regarding resistor loads.  Here it is.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47830.html#msg47830

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Re: No-Load Generators
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2007, 12:08:12 AM »
"Hi all

Thought of this the other day - it should be simple - just attach a
nice no-load alternator/generator to the wheel of a small lightweight
trailer, stuff it with batteries and tow it behind an electric
car...throw some solar panels on top too to keep the rain out and
disquise andything OU.....

ciao"

I don't want to take credit for this really cool new idea.  It comes from Doug Konzen aka Konehead over at the EVGray Yahoo Group.  I can't seem to get any good info over there about these "no-load alternator/generator" things he refers to, though.  Seems like if you could get one of those, there would be lots of neat ways to run it, seeing as how it poses no mechanical load and apparently puts out as much power as you like. 

Does anybody know where to get plans or buy one of these special new generator/alternators?  What's the story on these?  How do they work?  What determines how much power you can get out of them if not how much work you put into the shaft?  Is this for real?  I gotta have one!

Linda