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Author Topic: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator  (Read 172594 times)

Humbugger

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2007, 09:30:59 PM »
@rMuD

Worthless?  Not if it gets a grin and a chuckle.  I guess the appropriate time for banter is during the calm before the storm, though, eh?  I'm planning on posting very few words and mostly just  ::) skepto-smileys when the place gets real serious in here.  Only when appropriate, of course.  So far, the avoidance of reality tactics have been extremely predictable and I expect that to continue. 

One of these days, someone will test everything exactly right and show actual OU energy from some contraption.  Then I'll have to get a job or something. 

It will be interesting to see what new tricks and techniques are used to "demonstrate and test" the ChaRV.

booger 

ashtweth_nihilisti

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2007, 03:06:07 AM »
Geez, I had prepared a post on this question but left for the office before I posted it. So here goes.

RV or not RV, drag is drag. (Taken from Shakespeares' Motorolisis.lol)

Chas Quote
I ended up with an alternator fitted with a 4.5inch pulley driven by a 9inch pulley the alternator speed was 3146 rpm at that speed it was easy to run electrical applicances for a period now to the most important part to keep the wheel spinning.
Chas unquote

Chas said it all right here. The 9 to 4.5 inch is direct to the gen. If the gen produces 1 of drag, the flywheel will feel 3 or 4 of drag. You have to come out of the flywheel pulley to a larger pulley. Look at Alternative #1 or #2. There is no other way that you will be able to beat the drag.

Also, if you read Tao's thread on BEMF or CEMF, it is clear that BEMF happens simultaneous to current application or production. When you cut the current, you produce flyback. But when you put the current back on, you still produce BEMF which is producing your drag. The best and simplest way to overcome this is by mechanical means if the flywheel is properly configured. Or figure out a way to keep the stator as an open circuit so there is never any drag (did I say that?). Actually Mark S. Coffman was on that thread also and he is now here.

Anyways, time will tell.

But come'on guys, this is not an RV punching session (or cat fight). The object of this is to get Chas' wheel working with or without RV and your dicussions are already known.

So let's keep focused on the system.


@Ash

Regarding Panacea circuits. Why don't you guys offer them for sale. I will buy one and many others would also. Alot of guys that can reproduce Chas' system know didly squat about how to make the circuit, and they are not about to start. If the circuit could be made with removable chips or tranistors or whatever, etc., these could be easilly replaced if any are blown (given Murphey's Law). Imagine in a year from now if Panacea had 50 or 100 or these circuits sold (all made the same way for constant replication results). That's 50 to 100 people that can do replications and further testing. Alot better then maybe the three or so guys that have managed to make a circuit thus far.

Also, Panacea could publish "RV for Dummies" (not for me hey). Staring you and Hum as the protagonist and antagonist writers. lol. Just jok'in.

Please keep this in mind. Not every system can benefit by RV. Maybe Chas' Flywheel needs pure brute force to push it to the revs and resonance to keep it turning against drag. Maybe the current supplied by RV is to weak. You have to keep an open mind that RV may not always be the do all end all for electric motors. Reducing current draw means you are removing the FULL FORCE of tension on the motor, and this could play against you. So then you have to play around with controlling the generator drag, controlling a clutch, and what else.

We are all in the same boat. If RV was the answer, I would be selling systems now, to an unlimited host of clients and I would be paying Panacea a royalty per unit. So please, let's keep perspective.

So the questions is, do you want to achive OU regardless, or do you want to achieve OU only with RV in all cases.

Tests should be done without and with RV to compare. Also I would recommend that the system be run for at least 30 minutes to take the drive motor temperature with and without RV, as I have seen RV method heat up the motor considerably in my tests when under load.

Chas deserves that we keep clear and objective heads to solve his system.

Best regards.

"Why is it that the most difficult force to overcome in order to reach OU... is ourselves." (a Hmmmmmmmm moment brought to you by wattsup).


At this time there is no need to sell circuits to open source engineers, it is not where the non profit og aims to attain its revenue stream. The non profit org has 2 OU projects under way, the Neon and the d21 (meyers) replication, which we will use the RV to drive it. Yes we are interested in all devices.

If you want a Revenue raising ideas, i suggest you couple your 3HP 60 hertz RV to a water pump and show show some energy savings, it will blow any .8 HP-1HP water pump away, we are preparing a stand alone RV water pump for Farmers (all renumeration goes back into FE R and D)

Guys please stay on topic

Arm chair people who dont build the RV and VERIFY/Dis claim results can basically F##K off as far as i am concerned, i will not be wasting any more time with these type of posts.

Any one replicating and with a genuine inquiry will be answered by me an any affiliates of the non profit org i do work for.

Keep the Questions and or request simple and concise thanks.,




Humbugger

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2007, 07:52:38 AM »
@Ashtweth

Over in the old thread on the Chas gravity wheel, you requested anyone find for you the Stefan post regarding resistor loads.  Here it is.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47830.html#msg47830

Humbugger

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2007, 04:48:41 AM »
This video was done by one of my engineers not related to any thing, i haven't seen it yet.

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-1569144092933800809


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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2007, 05:06:02 AM »
G'day Ash,

Sorry mate, I don't seem to be able to get the link to work. Hiccup in my system or wrong URL?

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2007, 05:07:37 AM »
Hi mate,

shit, i just viewed it a second ago now it seems its died in the ass and i get a blank page, do you get a blank page mate?, ill email the unloader now and check.


hartiberlin

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2007, 05:47:17 AM »
Yes, something is wrong with Google Australia.
I had loaded the video earlier in a page,
but got a phone call, so I was not able to watch it.
Now was in my cache, just wanted to watch it on fullscreen.
It reloaded the page and then displayed.
Video currently not available...

Hmm...
Now I only get a blank white screen.

Anybody know, where Google video stores the video in what
directory in my PC as the cache ?
I am using the FireFox browser..

wattsup

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2007, 06:53:40 AM »
@Stefan

Just type in the url field

"about:cache"

Find the line
browser.cache.disk.parent_directory
The value will tell you where the cache is.

Be carefull cause this is the central nervous system of firfox.

hartiberlin

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2007, 10:02:42 PM »
This video was done by one of my engineers not related to any thing, i haven't seen it yet.

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-1569144092933800809



So Ash,
can you please check into this again ?
There is only coming up a blank white screen.

I did not find it anymore in my cache... too bad.

Did Google Australia pull this video off again ?

Also there is no more error page coming up,
just a white page ?
Is anybody else getting something different ?

helmut

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2007, 10:46:37 PM »
By the Way
I have to report,that the overunity.com Page was hidden about 6 hours ago.
There was a comment saying,~~~that the replays exceed the limit from 50000 on hartiberlin~~
more or less exactely.

helmut

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2007, 02:14:40 AM »
Hi Stefan and all, it seems it has been removed by the user, i can attain a copy on the weekend and will look at re upping it ASAP.


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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2007, 03:24:38 AM »
By the Way
I have to report,that the overunity.com Page was hidden about 6 hours ago.
There was a comment saying,~~~that the replays exceed the limit from 50000 on hartiberlin~~
more or less exactely.

helmut

Thanks for this report .
How long was it offline ?
I have to complain to my hoster again...

hartiberlin

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2007, 03:25:23 AM »
Hi Stefan and all, it seems it has been removed by the user, i can attain a copy on the weekend and will look at re upping it ASAP.



Hmm,
who has uploaded it and why did he again remove it ?
Did he want to change the video edit again ?

ashtweth_nihilisti

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2007, 03:27:49 AM »
Hi Stefan, yes  i heard some thing along these lines , although this was not done by us ( the upload and video) Apparently Chas was not to happy with the video, so i offered to re edit it and upload.

Sorry again for the inconvenience every one.

helmut

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2007, 08:39:47 AM »
By the Way
I have to report,that the overunity.com Page was hidden about 6 hours ago.
There was a comment saying,~~~that the replays exceed the limit from 50000 on hartiberlin~~
more or less exactely.

helmut

Thanks for this report .
How long was it offline ?
I have to complain to my hoster again...
at least 10 Minutes.Then i decidet to do some other Work (about 2 hours) and after that,it was working again.

helmut