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Author Topic: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator  (Read 130350 times)

Offline ken_nyus

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #45 on: September 14, 2007, 08:32:28 PM »
By the Way
I have to report,that the overunity.com Page was hidden about 6 hours ago.
There was a comment saying,~~~that the replays exceed the limit from 50000 on hartiberlin~~
more or less exactely.

helmut

Thanks for this report .
How long was it offline ?
I have to complain to my hoster again...

You should also change your error page, it exposes the value of the database userid, this is a security leak.


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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #45 on: September 14, 2007, 08:32:28 PM »

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #46 on: September 17, 2007, 07:49:10 AM »
Guys here is the written report on the fly wheel tests we did.

Ill post the video here so we can stay on topic.

Duty cycle test results. [in short good and bad]

You guys will need to make up your minds if there is still something to salvage:

In our amp meters[digital not watt hour meters] pumped into the 240volt grid, Chas's original motor pulled 6 amps The RV [I AM NEVER WRONG ABOUT THE RV SO FAR) pulled 3 amps input [as i said it would]

The video will show a watt hour and our digital amp meters test,  our digital amp meters show myself pulsing out 2 saws, for 4 seconds on (put a stop watch on the video) and one second off as per Stefans request. Figures went negative [10 out 3 in ruffly], but the voltage most likely dropped.

Watch the video, a real load was pulsed and cut wood which drew around 10 amps [4 sec on and one off], RV stayed around 3 amps. How ever, as an engineer pointed out the voltage on the ALT Dropped, so would this 4 seconds of  ten amps still be usable in a useful applicaiton, you guys will have to decide, we have all the details now to reproduce his system.

Watt hour meters test, show  in run time after it took me along time to CHARGE up the fly wheel from the RV, that the run time tests and even pulse tests on the watt hour meters show no OU.

Total watt hour power consumed from the first tests, showed more energy to charge up the flywheel and pulse it out [total power consumed]. Check out the video. Now i am saying this as we did this on our amp meter and connected the watt hour meter, the actual watt hour meter test with out our amp meters showed similar figures of input and out put so please watch the video and make up your own mind.

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #47 on: September 17, 2007, 08:04:34 AM »
Hi Ash,
many thanks for this first report.
So where did you put the videos ?

Did you or anybody else also upload the removed video
again ?
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #47 on: September 17, 2007, 08:04:34 AM »
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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #48 on: September 17, 2007, 08:20:19 AM »
Hi Stefan, my assistant is editing them now for you guys, so i don't have them  :)

Should be up tonight or in the morning at the latest, Chas also explains another part of his gravity wheel on one of them, ill get the one removeduploaded also, the up loader had to change the description, so removed it ???

so 4 videos will be done.

1) duty cycle tests
2) Chas speaking a little bit about his wheel and concept
3) previous removed Chas video
4) panacea's production on the evaluation of the tests


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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #49 on: September 17, 2007, 08:50:30 AM »
Many thanks Ash to you and your team and to Chas
for this big work.
Looking forward to see the new videos.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #49 on: September 17, 2007, 08:50:30 AM »
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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #50 on: September 17, 2007, 08:32:24 PM »
@Ash

Please confirm the pulley configuration as being Chas' original as this will reveal much of what I had anticipated and also on how I can consider making such a device for testing.

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2007, 02:54:00 AM »

Thanks Stefan, but i feel the world should really thank you for providing all the data and support and encouragement.


@ wattsup

okay the only measurements i have on hiss original are what he has stated in the following paragraph.

First build a flywheel that will produce at least twice as much energy as you need to drive your alternator when finished you should have trouble seeing it moving as it runs in its own space, After a few trial runs i built one by having a h-t steel shaft keeyed each end before a flange or a disc was slipped along to the center and welded the flange was then drilled and tapped to take studs, using a router i cut a circle 600mm in diameter out of custom board with a hole in the center to take the shaft this was attached to the flange using studs with washers and lock nuts the second circle had a hole in the center large enough to fit over the flange this was fitted from the other end and screwed to the first wheel by doing this i could try diffrent speeds and drives until i was satisfied i had a combination that would work with what i had which was a .075 hp single phase electric motor and a 3.5 kva alternator,The flywheel ended up being 72mm thick and 590mm in diametor i then fitted a steel band around my wheel this added more power my theory being if you create centrifugal force you can drive anything as long as the wheel keeps spinning I ended up with an alternator fitted with a 4.5inch pulley driven by a 9inch pulley the alternator speed was 3146rpm at that speed it was easy to run electrical applicances for a period now to the most important part to keep the wheel spinning i wanted to build a power grid which had a single power supply to a switch that worked on a roating system to this i would have 6 identical electric motors connected they would all drive to a comon shaft in the center imagn a clock with your motors situated at 1-3-5-7-9-11 , The switch would direct power to one motor at a time with a overlap that provided power to the second before the first was switched off this means one motor is working while the others are cooling down on this drive shaft i would have a smaller flywheel to compensate the power required to drive 6 sets of belts as the motors are like the alternator they require very little power to spin Drive this shaft at approx half the speed of your motors from this shaft double your speed to your main flywheel then using pulleys as large as possible drive your alternator All you need then is a simple device that prevents your alternator producing more power then your system is capable of maintaining. I tried very hard to create enough interest in my invention to be able to fund the end product but i feel i am wasting my time so hopefully one of you good people will have more luck then me ,as for testing one of my original machines it would be a waste of time as no mater who tested it it would not satisify everybody thanks for your interest and good luck,Chas    PS I would like this passed on to as many as possible.

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #52 on: September 18, 2007, 03:34:09 AM »

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #53 on: September 18, 2007, 03:36:56 AM »
here it is guys,

More to come.

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-2908785246610384828


Good work Ash..................

Appreciate the time put forth.

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #53 on: September 18, 2007, 03:36:56 AM »
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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #54 on: September 18, 2007, 12:27:08 PM »
here it is guys,

More to come.

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-2908785246610384828

Hi Ash,
many thanks again for shooting this video.
Well,I have watched it now 3 or 4 times,
but there are many confusing things.

First you seem to have used different measuring devices.

On your Power-Mate meters theinout current into the RV motor
seems to be higher, around 4.2 Amps in idle mode,
where it was with the other bulkier meters
only around 2.7 ampsin idle mode.

Did you change the idle RPMs so the input current
was bigger ?

Also the pulsing of theoutput loads seems not to be:
4 seconds on, 1 second off, 4 seconds on, 1 second off, 4 seconds on, 1 second off, 4 seconds on, 1 second off, etc..
as you wanted to do.

You just made it maybe 3 to 4 seconds on and then waited much too long, until
you switched it on again..

Also using these saws as a load are very bad for measurements,
as they are drawing a very high current switchon-current.

It would really have been better, if you would just have connected an
ohmical resistive load  and pulses this out at
4 seconds on, 1 second off, 4 seconds on, 1 second off, 4 seconds on, 1 second off, 4 seconds on, 1 second off, etc..

So from this video it is all too confusing and there could be nothing
said about efficiency.

Also the picture in picture meters were unreadable from the google flash video.

Too bad, you did not do a real ohmical load resistor test.

Do you have another date with Chas to do further tests ?

Maybe it would be really good, if you would take Mark
from NEC with you..
Maybe he can bring in these resistive loads, so a better
output test can be done.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #55 on: September 18, 2007, 01:40:00 PM »
I have to confer with Stephan, I am a little confused.
I think you need a constant load and you should do two tests..one with a properly timed pulsed sequence..the other continuos load over say 10 minutes for both.
A couple of cheap power meters (like they use to measure you power consumption at home) would have also been useful.
Thanks for the effort its much appreciated
I do encourage you and Chas but this is a long way from what was claimed earlier this year during the TV interview.
Kind Regards
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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #56 on: September 19, 2007, 07:15:39 AM »
@Ash

Thanks fo rall the effort you guys put into this.

All you needed to find out what Chas' device was really doing is a few lights, put on one at a time to increase the load while doing in/out watts. I also do not get the drill thing at 4 seconds.

This was an opportunity to measure Chas' wheel under varying steady load conditions.

But for all intents and purposes, we can see it does not work to OU level, with or without RV, although the methodology seemed lax.

But I saw what I wanted to see and thanks for that.

Did you all notice how long it took for the wheel to stop once the caps were turned off? Nice action. Ah hah.

Based on what I saw on the video, Alternative #1 or #2 seems to be the move for me to consider. Question of time.

Ash, when I suggested you start selling the circuits, it was not to make any cash, but to get more guys testing RV. Anyways, thanks again for your good work.
All the best to Chas.

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #57 on: September 19, 2007, 12:27:50 PM »
Please refer to:

http://forum.go-here.nl/viewtopic.php?p=285#285

Mr. X is an influential person in China.  He and team provided seed money  for Sun et al on a Pulse Motor Prototype.
 
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Tseung: "I know that you have already provided seed money to Sun et al to develop a Pulse Motor Prototype. Do you think you might consider seed money for the Chas Campbell device also?"

Mr. X: "My Advisors and I read the overunity.com posts. It appears that the Chas Campbell Electricity Magnifier Flywheel is still in an early development stage. My Advisors could learn much more with a visit to Tsing Hua University than a trip to Australia."

Lai: "I would like to lay out the comparisons:
(1) Chas Campbell uses Flywheels instead of Cylinders. (He knows the importance of having weights at the rim  to increase the centripetal force.)
(2) Chas Campbell has no auto-adjustment  mechanism yet. (Adjusting the belt tension by hand is not close to auto-adjustment.)
(3) Chas Campbell has given out the exact dimensions and type of motor and alternators for others to replicate. (There will still be considerable resonance tuning. A marketable toy will be better - goal of Sun et al.)
(4) Chas Campbell has no theory to explain the source of energy yet (Tsing Hua University and Sun et al have accepted the Lee-Tseung theory).
(5) Chas Campbell has no team to back him up. (Tsing Hua University and Sun et al have access to the best experts in China including Lee and Tseung.)"

Mr. X: "In addition, I can monitor Sun et al easily. They are in China. I do not want to run the risk of the 225 HP Pulse Motor experience - the USA Government refused export of the device even though the Funder was Chinese. I do not mind funding a replication of the Chas Campbell device in China when appropriate."

Lawrence Tseung
Fear of Foreign Government Actions Leads Out non-support of the Chas Campbell device (but Leads Out seed money for Pulse Motor in China).

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #58 on: September 19, 2007, 12:54:44 PM »
@Ash

Thanks for all the effort you guys put into this.

All you needed to find out what Chas' device was really doing is a few lights, put on one at a time to increase the load while doing in/out watts. I also do not get the drill thing at 4 seconds.

This was an opportunity to measure Chas' wheel under varying steady load  conditions.

But for all intents and purposes, we can see it does not work to OU level, with or without RV, although the methodology seemed lax.

But I saw what I wanted to see and thanks for that.

Did you all notice how long it took for the wheel to stop once the caps were turned off? Nice action. Ah hah.

Based on what I saw on the video, Alternative #1 or #2 seems to be the move for me to consider. Question of time.

Ash, when I suggested you start selling the circuits, it was not to make any cash, but to get more guys testing RV. Anyways, thanks again for your good work.
All the best to Chas.

I too appreciate the effort from Ash and other members of the Forum in the investigation of the Chas Campbell Device.

From my own experience, I believe some kind of tuning is required.  There is very little chance that the Chas Campbell Flywheel can be equally efficient for all external loads and conditions.  Unfortunately, tuning requires much playing with  the device.

(Pushing a swing at the wrong time will do more harm than good.)

Lawrence Tseung
Pulse Rotation Leads Out the requirement for Tuning.

« Last Edit: September 20, 2007, 12:16:48 AM by ltseung888 »

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Re: Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator
« Reply #59 on: September 20, 2007, 04:17:13 AM »
HI Guys,

Yes i am confused too, those watt hour meters obviously show a difference in efficiency, maybe they were not calibrated like our meters were.I know our meters (the digital AMP ones) are fine as we tested a resistive load to calibrate them, lets model off them, the Watt hour meters close enough to total time?.

Okay lets get to the Q's and A's

Stefan>Did you change the idle RPMs so the input current was bigger ?

No, must be a difference in calibration Stefan ???

Mark>I think you need a constant load and you should do two tests..one with a properly timed pulsed sequence..the other continuous load over say 10 minutes for both.

Sure, engineers resisted with Panacea have provided a pulse circuit which we published, plus we got all the dimensions so ANY one can preform these tests you requested with their own replication.

We don't have any fixed resistors on us ATM but i will work at it,

Stefan>4 seconds on, 1 second off, 4 seconds on, 1 second off, 4 seconds on, 1 second off, 4 seconds on, 1 second off, etc..as you wanted to do.You just made it maybe 3 to 4 seconds on and then waited much too long, until you switched it on again..

Right sorry for that Stefan i was not sure of this, I guess we know in future to make sure this [Me] dumb ass knows   :P like those EXACT directions ;).  If Mark is all for it, i can contact Chas and arrange an appointment for the NEC, In the mean time ill do my best to get the request filled.

@ watts

right sure but a too big light will load down the system, also in that video we have 2 60 watt globes in the ALT! , maybe load them up turn them off and on for 4-1 ?

Stefan<Also using these saws as a load are very bad for measurements,as they are drawing a very high current switch on-current.

Isnt that what we want, a high extraction of current for the out put? okay, maybe i am not understanding, bottom line is this system can be replicated and tested mean time by any one as we have full disclosure, mean time ill work on finding the resistors and light loads requested, and also leave it open to mark for further investigation.

now my 2 cents

Best way to confirm is to replicate this and try it with different pule extraction circuits, you never know until you try.

@Lawrence

If i was to apply any thing towards Chas, my personal opinion is that his wheel is more promising, and i would CONSIDER applying some thing towards this replication or him finishing construction.

bottom line is if any one did, he would TELL the world how he did it, and not patent it etc.

 

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