Author Topic: Working reconstruction of Peregrinus?s Wheel having cross-like stator (Read 15775 times)

Humbugger · « **Reply #15 on:** September 09, 2007, 09:36:09 AM »

Quote from: Omnibus on September 09, 2007, 09:26:28 AM

Quote from: Humbugger on September 09, 2007, 09:16:34 AM
Quote from: Omnibus on September 09, 2007, 08:14:51 AM
Violation of CoE has been demonstrated experimentally beyond any doubt in a physical energy-producing machine.

"What remains is to harness this violation by a skillful engineering effort in a convenient straightforward practical device (the device proving violation of CoE can also be applied in practice but that isn't straightforward)."

I assume you are referring to the SMOT shown in this video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2383887636280790847

Is this the device that can be applied in practice but isn't straightforward? Or is there another device I've missed? If so, please describe any (even non-straightforward) practical application for us.

Humbugger

Why? This thread is about Peregrinus' device.

Well, I guess because you brought it up. If you'd rather not tell us the secret practical application because it's not straightforward and takes too much time to describe then okay. How about a terse yes or no answer to the question "Is this a video of the device you are referring to?"

It's only two or three characters...YES or NO...probably would be okay to sneak in here...it doesn't seem like this is too much to ask or too busy a thread. Or maybe you could suggest an appropriate alternative thread where you could post your terse or more elaborate answer.

Humbugger

Omnibus · « **Reply #16 on:** September 09, 2007, 10:00:24 AM »

Like I said, this is a discussion of Peregrinus' device, therefore, I'm not going to discuss other issues. Violation of CoE has been demonstrated conclusively also in this forum and if you're interested how this was done browse around and you'll learn. Your confusion isn't an issue worth discussing so don't clutter the thread with it.

Humbugger · « **Reply #17 on:** September 09, 2007, 11:17:36 AM »

Quote from: Omnibus on September 09, 2007, 10:00:24 AM

Like I said, this is a discussion of Peregrinus' device, therefore, I'm not going to discuss other issues. Violation of CoE has been demonstrated conclusively also in this forum and if you're interested how this was done browse around and you'll learn. Your confusion isn't an issue worth discussing so don't clutter the thread with it.

You remind me of an ex girlfriend I once had who called me a dozen times after our breakup. Each time, all she told me was, very emphatically, that she was never going to speak to me again!

I don't keep track of the count, but I've seen you do this at least a dozen times. You boldly insert your absolute statement of CoE being disproven into any unrelated thread and when anyone questions it or asks for more details, you delight in insulting their intelligence and then curtly say you are not going to go into it. Sounds like a repetitive clinical pathology to me!

Humbugger

Omnibus · « **Reply #18 on:** September 09, 2007, 11:37:44 AM »

Quote from: Humbugger on September 09, 2007, 11:17:36 AM

Quote from: Omnibus on September 09, 2007, 10:00:24 AM
Like I said, this is a discussion of Peregrinus' device, therefore, I'm not going to discuss other issues. Violation of CoE has been demonstrated conclusively also in this forum and if you're interested how this was done browse around and you'll learn. Your confusion isn't an issue worth discussing so don't clutter the thread with it.

You remind me of an ex girlfriend I once had who called me a dozen times after our breakup. Each time, all she told me was, very emphatically, that she was never going to speak to me again!

I don't keep track of the count, but I've seen you do this at least a dozen times. You boldly insert your absolute statement of CoE being disproven into any unrelated thread and when anyone questions it or asks for more details, you delight in insulting their intelligence and then curtly say you are not going to go into it. Sounds like a repetitive clinical pathology to me!

Humbugger

Please keep you personal stories to yourself and understand that this is a theread discussing a concrete device. The definitively proven fact that CoE can be violated is discussed elsewhere.

hartiberlin · « **Reply #19 on:** September 09, 2007, 01:19:31 PM »

Humbugger, please stay ontopic and stop your annoying skeptiszm.
The guy has also some other incrediable videos online, where the framerate
is faster and you can see it selfturning !

Humbugger · « **Reply #20 on:** September 09, 2007, 01:47:59 PM »

Quote from: hartiberlin on September 09, 2007, 01:19:31 PM

Humbugger, please stay ontopic and stop your annoying skeptiszm.
The guy has also some other incrediable videos online, where the framerate
is faster and you can see it selfturning !

Sorry if my skepticism is annoying. I looked at all those videos and they all seem like they could be easily faked. I did not say there are faked, just that they don't really prove much.

Speaking of other threads, would you do me the honor of replying to my last post over on the Chas thread? It's about where we left off regarding adding up the torque arms on the wheel.

Thanks,

Humbugger

hansvonlieven · « **Reply #21 on:** September 10, 2007, 10:03:40 AM »

G'day all,

As I said earlier in this thread Scott Lang of leedskalnin.com has replicated some of Taras Levski's work.

In all his demonstrations Taras suspends the moving part of his device on a thread hanging from the ceiling or whatever. The only movement that Scotty noticed was the rotation caused by the thread unwinding. Thereafter nothing.

Make of it what you will.

Hans von Lieven

Omnibus · « **Reply #22 on:** September 10, 2007, 10:07:48 AM »

The thread unwinding? Why did he wind it to begin with?

hansvonlieven · « **Reply #23 on:** September 10, 2007, 10:24:01 AM »

G'day Omnibus

In case you don't know, most yarns are twisted to hold the filaments together.

Hans von Lieven

Omnibus · « **Reply #24 on:** September 10, 2007, 10:36:10 AM »

Yarns? What yarns? Why would he use yarns to begin with?

hansvonlieven · « **Reply #25 on:** September 10, 2007, 10:43:43 AM »

yarn, sewing cotton, whatever, common enough and cheap.

Monofilament such as fishing line is not much good for these kind of experiments. No matter, what is important is that Scotty could not get the magnet arrangement to work and he used the right kind of materials as specified and the right shape, which incidentally is illustrated on Ed Leedskalnin's booklet on magnetism.

Hans von Lieven

Omnibus · « **Reply #26 on:** September 10, 2007, 11:40:30 AM »

OK. Now I get it. He's cheap and that's why couldn't manage. Understand, it's his problem, he is incapable. His inability to carry out experiments properly is only his problem and cannot serve as a proof for anything connected with the claimed phenomenon. Try something else.

Omnibus · « **Reply #27 on:** September 12, 2007, 04:07:55 PM »

@All,

Please, take a look here:

http://www.geocities.com/ageofmagnetizm/rods

and

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4238807952412269373&pr=goog-sl

hartiberlin · « **Reply #28 on:** September 13, 2007, 09:49:07 PM »

Has somebody already emailed with this guy and asked him
to post higher resolution videos with higher framerate ?

Looks pretty easy to setup.

Can please somebody try to replicate his experiments
and post videos of the replication effort ?
Thanks.

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