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Author Topic: Overunity perpetual motion motor magnets  (Read 57903 times)

Offline Pirate88179

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Re: Overunity perpetual motion motor magnets
« Reply #60 on: September 22, 2007, 12:56:30 AM »
Can anyone help me figure this out?  I have tried to replicate this as shown on the video as well as other related videos and I can't get it to work.  Am I doing something wrong? Or is this not possible and some kind of trick?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNNDT5Ge8YA&mode=related&search=

I would appreciate feedback on this.  Thank you.

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Re: Overunity perpetual motion motor magnets
« Reply #61 on: September 22, 2007, 02:00:51 AM »
Can anyone help me figure this out?  I have tried to replicate this as shown on the video as well as other related videos and I can't get it to work.  Am I doing something wrong? Or is this not possible and some kind of trick?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNNDT5Ge8YA&mode=related&search=

I would appreciate feedback on this.  Thank you.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,973.0.html

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Re: Overunity perpetual motion motor magnets
« Reply #62 on: September 22, 2007, 02:48:18 AM »
Thank you Freeenergy.  I have seen the Billy Mier video as well but not the others.  I will look at them now. What I am attempting is to replicate this using a dismantled hard drive with a post positioned vertically in the center of the rotating platter that has magnets positioned around the circumference.  I then made a ring with a larger inside diameter that has magnets positioned around the inside edge.  The poles are configured so they all repel (like poles) and when holding the ring over the tube I do get some rotation, sometimes several turns but, it always find equalibrium and stops.  I figured on using the hard drive set-up so if successful, I would have an easy way to get "work" out of it because the motor is still attached and while rotating, should put out a small dc current.  the drive bearing allow it to turn very easily.  Thanks again for your response.

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Re: Overunity perpetual motion motor magnets
« Reply #62 on: September 22, 2007, 02:48:18 AM »
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Re: Overunity perpetual motion motor magnets
« Reply #63 on: September 22, 2007, 04:32:42 AM »
G'day all,

Wishful thinking FreeEnergy,

It is obvious the device is driven by a motor concealed inside the box it is sitting on.

When you have a close look at the rotor magnets and their behaviour (by going through the video frame by frame) you will see that the magnets do NOT impart rotation to the device but react to an outside force.

Sorry fellows, someone's idea of a joke.

Hans von Lieven

Good catch.  You can also hear the hum of the motor when you listen closely. :D

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Re: Overunity perpetual motion motor magnets
« Reply #64 on: September 22, 2007, 07:00:52 AM »
Yawn........Watch out Honk, He's going to reach out and get you through your monitor...

what is this ?
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy0tedYBMg

interesting video

Yes it is an interesting Video - but one things for sure, it's not a SMOT, and definitely not built by Omnibus,
because it appears to work. (Though one would like to see the apparatus removed from the bench top to make sure there
are no hidden wires, motors etc.)

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Re: Overunity perpetual motion motor magnets
« Reply #65 on: September 22, 2007, 09:07:10 AM »
Yawn........Watch out Honk, He's going to reach out and get you through your monitor...

what is this ?
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy0tedYBMg

interesting video

Yes it is an interesting Video - but one things for sure, it's not a SMOT, and definitely not built by Omnibus,
because it appears to work. (Though one would like to see the apparatus removed from the bench top to make sure there
are no hidden wires, motors etc.)
The important thing is that the SMOT I've analyzed proves beyond any doubt violation of CoE through discontinuous production of energy from nothing, independent of whether or not such videos prove continuous production of such excess energy. Engineering achievements such as the one shown in this video, if it indeed is a perpetuum mobile, are very much to be celebrated. It is a very difficult engineering task to do that. However, as I said, violation of CoE has already been proved and these videos only reconfirm this fact and put it in a practical perspective.

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Re: Overunity perpetual motion motor magnets
« Reply #66 on: September 22, 2007, 09:47:33 AM »
Ok, what ever you want. I was just stating that you cant conclude anything from present physics. We live in a non-linear universe, virtual particles are impossible to track. It is not possible to create something to solve this. So basicaly, no one can tell you a smot doesn't produce overunity. I was just agreeing with the smot overunity thing in an abstract way. As you can see, it saved me some typing. ;)

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Re: Overunity perpetual motion motor magnets
« Reply #67 on: September 22, 2007, 12:00:08 PM »
I must agree,
that Omnibus sometimes is using bad words,
but I also understand why he is doing it.

As most people just don?t realize, that the SMOT really works and
is overunity.

How often do we have to explain it again and again ????

There are several videos out there, that show without a doubt,
that the SMOT ball gains energy by going through the ramp.

There is no point anymore in discussion.
The problem still is to get it used.

Nobody has yet build a longer SMOT ramo of e.g. 1 Meter long and
a bigger height difference, so the energy gain is enough to
loop the ball back to the entrance.

Only Greg Watson and Epitaxy had been having looped SMOTs,
but as they did build it so small, in scale, the friction influence was
just too big all the time and the ball sticked after a few cycles to the
track, because it was too much accelerated, etc...

The SMOT really needs a big setup with very precise mechanical
building and very precise control of the running ball,
otherwise you will not get it to loop.

But please stop the flamewar and hammering onto Omnibus.

The SMOT principle works.

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Re: Overunity perpetual motion motor magnets
« Reply #68 on: September 22, 2007, 02:56:19 PM »
I deleted several flamewar posting in this thread.
Please stay ontopic and
take the SMOT discussion into the SMOT threads.
Many thanks.

Maybe just look at the newly posted Lego perpetual motion magnet motor
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy0tedYBMg
and try to see how this work.


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Re: Overunity perpetual motion motor magnets
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Re: Overunity perpetual motion motor magnets
« Reply #69 on: September 22, 2007, 04:51:31 PM »
Here is a video of a crude attempt to replicate what I have observed in some other videos. I agree that the "wobble" is an intregal part of why this allows rotation.  The sphere I am using is a highly polished partially stabilized zirconium oxide sphere which has a very low coeffeicient of friction.  Unfortunatley, the magnet on the sphere is not very strong at all.  I will try more attempts with a better magnet at a later date. Mainly, I wanted to see if I could actually upload a video on here as I have never attempted that before. A friend of mine told me it is impossible to get complete rotation from a magnet but, as I have seen it done before in several videos, I know it works.  Thanks.

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Re: Overunity perpetual motion motor magnets
« Reply #70 on: September 22, 2007, 10:52:55 PM »
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xMb0OqK6gx8 this video is good too. :)

enjoy.





peace

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Re: Overunity perpetual motion motor magnets
« Reply #71 on: September 22, 2007, 11:08:49 PM »
I am not sure if this is the correct topic to post this question in, so if it's not, please forgive me.  I was wondering if anyone had done any experimentation on the material they use for strain guages.  I am not sure if this is a pizo-electric material or not but what if it was placed between two powerful magnets...it gives off an electrical current when "strained" which is why they used it on the first F-16 jet fighters control stick.  The stick did not move but it measured the forces a pilot put against it and the computer did the rest. So, if we take the same material that releases a current when a pressure is applied against it and placed it sandwhiched between two strong magnets....what happens?  If there is a topic that discusses this in more detail please direct me to it.  I thank you all.

Bill

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Re: Overunity perpetual motion motor magnets
« Reply #72 on: September 22, 2007, 11:58:27 PM »
G'day Bill,

Make your own strain gauge, it's not that hard. Hope this helps:

http://www.omega.com/literature/transactions/volume3/strain.html

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Re: Overunity perpetual motion motor magnets
« Reply #73 on: September 23, 2007, 12:55:29 AM »
Hans:

Thank you for that information, it is very detailed and informative.  I appreciate it.

Bill

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Re: Overunity perpetual motion motor magnets
« Reply #74 on: September 23, 2007, 01:07:40 PM »
Here is a video of a crude attempt to replicate what I have observed in some other videos. I agree that the "wobble" is an intregal part of why this allows rotation.  The sphere I am using is a highly polished partially stabilized zirconium oxide sphere which has a very low coeffeicient of friction.  Unfortunatley, the magnet on the sphere is not very strong at all.  I will try more attempts with a better magnet at a later date. Mainly, I wanted to see if I could actually upload a video on here as I have never attempted that before. A friend of mine told me it is impossible to get complete rotation from a magnet but, as I have seen it done before in several videos, I know it works.  Thanks.
Please, try to remove your hand from the action. What you're showing has already been demonstrated by a few others, most notably Wesley Snyder. Unfortunately, so far no one has demonstrated this rotation (except probably Finsrud) in a device whereby the researcher doesn't have physical contact with it. Keep up he good work but aim at making it really self-sustaining.

 

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