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Author Topic: Linnard?s patent is out ! Splitting H2O just with a catalysator !  (Read 16244 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Hi All,
have a look at this:

http://l2.espacenet.com/espacenet/viewer?PN=WO2005018559&CY=de&LG=de&DB=EPD

I am just studying it now.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Linnard?s patent is out ! Splitting H2O just with a catalysator !
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2005, 09:25:14 PM »
Here are still the video for the watersplitting and metal
production:

http://www.harti.com/griffin/


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Re: Linnard?s patent is out ! Splitting H2O just with a catalysator !
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2005, 09:26:57 PM »
Here are the patents from Linnard Griffin:

http://l2.espacenet.com/espacenet/viewer?PN=US2005042150&CY=de&LG=de&DB=EPD


http://l2.espacenet.com/espacenet/viewer?PN=US2005109162&CY=de&LG=de&DB=EPD


http://l2.espacenet.com/espacenet/viewer?PN=WO2005018559&CY=de&LG=de&DB=EPD

If somebody has a PDF Re-packager, please upload the
complete patents in ONE PDF file.

so it seems he is using collodial Aluminium and Lead
and normal iron metal as the metals with water to
split the water.

Can anybody try this quickly, who has to happen
these materials handy ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Linnard?s patent is out ! Splitting H2O just with a catalysator !
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2005, 09:26:57 PM »
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Re: Linnard?s patent is out ! Splitting H2O just with a catalysator !
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2005, 09:30:31 PM »
What is best method to produce collloidal aluminium and
lead ?

How does one get these materials ?


Is he using real iron powder or is he using Fe3CL(ironchlorid)
for the watersplitting together with colloidal aluminium and
colloidal lead ?

Does this depend on the PH level ?

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Linnard?s patent is out ! Splitting H2O just with a catalysator !
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2005, 10:07:32 PM »
If I look again at:

http://www.harti.com/griffin/h2o_split.avi

it seems that this green color is coming from the ironchlorid.

Is he indeed using iron-III-chlorid and the 2 colloidal
metals aluminium and lead ?


Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Linnard?s patent is out ! Splitting H2O just with a catalysator !
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Re: Linnard?s patent is out ! Splitting H2O just with a catalysator !
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2005, 01:34:35 PM »
The Linnard patents and videos are very interesting. What is the origin of the videos?


Colloidal metal suspensions can be made easily by putting two metal electrodes in distilled (distilled, not de-ionized) water and applying about 30VDC. After 30min-1hr you should have about 10ppm or so solution.

At least colloidal silver can be made in this way, and I suspect the same works for lead and aluminum/magnesium too. The only problem is where to get high purity lead and aluminum base materials. Pharmacy or chem lab material suppliers, perhaps?

Attached is his US patent application in an easily readable format.

Tero

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Re: Linnard?s patent is out ! Splitting H2O just with a catalysator !
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2005, 11:24:15 PM »
I reckon this is where Linnard Griffin lives. Does
anyone live near enough to call in and have a chat?
He is probably in the telephone book. He could be
phoned up first. It could be turned into a lecture
tour of Europe for him if he likes the idea.
http://www.google.co.uk/local?q=linnard+griffin&hl=en&hs=S6I&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=X&near=Bertram,+TX+78605,+USA&radius=0&latlng=30741082,-98052932,3664426549436375100

Paul.

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Re: Linnard?s patent is out ! Splitting H2O just with a catalysator !
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Re: Linnard?s patent is out ! Splitting H2O just with a catalysator !
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2005, 08:03:52 PM »
I would imagine that producing colloidal aluminum and lead would be the same process as producing colloidal silver for health reasons.  30v DC and two very pure silver bars or coins and let the electrolysis erode the metal into a container of water.

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Re:Better catalysator is CERIUM ( rare earth metal)
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2005, 01:22:42 AM »
Better catalysator for splitting water is the rare earth CERIUM. If you do reseach on this metal you will find that it is described as producing very much H2 if in contact with hot water. The only problem would be to recombine the cerium-oxide back to cerium.

I am presently doing research on this because way back between the 50 ties and 70 ties Postbusses in a Town in swizerland would run on H2 produced by a Cerium-Brick.

Anyone here is encouraged to do additional  reseach on this and post here.

Thanks
Kator01


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Re:Better catalysator is CERIUM ( rare earth metal)
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2005, 01:22:42 AM »
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Re: Linnard?s patent is out ! Splitting H2O just with a catalysator !
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2005, 12:04:01 PM »
sounds radioactive.... is it???

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Re: Linnard?s patent is out ! Splitting H2O just with a catalysator !
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2005, 05:49:46 PM »
No,

Cerium metal is a chemical part of firestones ( not piezo-based) for cigarette-lighters. If you rub it hard with a metal wheel
it gives of sparks.

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Re: Linnard?s patent is out ! Splitting H2O just with a catalysator !
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Re: Linnard?s patent is out ! Splitting H2O just with a catalysator !
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2005, 09:24:02 PM »
thanx kator, I apologize for my ignorance, I was thinking cesium,"2 much nuclear surfing" I will be stockpiling this metal and experimenting with it, I hope my unconventional nature will provide me with an advanced/accelerated/ learning curve.

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Re: Linnard?s patent is out ! Splitting H2O just with a catalysator !
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2005, 01:55:25 PM »
This misunderstanding happens so dont worry- I had often these situations where I barked at the wrong tree, as an african saying goes. I wish you the best for your experiments. But I would suggest, first to find out more about how to convert the Cerium-Oxide back to cerium-metal.In the meanwhile I will do more research on this and will post my finding here. It may take some time.

But by the way I found a writing by  Bruce A. Perreault, Nu Power Technologies on Radiolysis which I post here :

The Dissociation of Water by Radiant Energy

Originally compiled by Bruce A. Perreault - August 20th, 1997
First revision, February 9th, 1998 - Second revision, March 31rst, 1999

Of all the radiation-chemical reactions that have been studied in aqueous solution, the most important is the decomposition of pure water itself. It has been shown by Pierre Curie and Debierne that a vacuum can not be maintained with a solution of radium salts, that from the solution a continuous evolution of hydrogen and oxygen takes place.

It must be mentioned that the decomposition of water in any form by alpha particles renders the practice of sealing radioactive salts in small tubes for long periods of time a dangerous one unless certain precautions are observed. Accidents involving serious loss of radium have occurred through the explosion of tubes by accumulated pressure of hydrogen and oxygen. It appears to be dangerous to heat an old tube or to exert any mechanical stress upon it. It is possible that weakening of the glass container by the continued radiant bombardment enhances the danger through devitrification of the glass. A far reaching disintegration of quartz containers by radium rays has been reported.

The wide variety of chemical actions brought about, particularly by alpha particles, is surprising, and one must be struck by the universality of the phenomenon of chemical change by radiation. We find that alpha and beta particles, in their passage through molecules, are almost universally capable of changing them chemically; their action does not depend upon any wave-length relation with the atom or molecule affected. This is in marked contrast with photo chemical action, where the specific nature of the reaction and of the system being acted on depends entirely upon the wave-length of the light, and the capability of being absorbed by a given element or molecule. Owning to the tremendous kinetic energy of alpha particles they always ionize and frequently produce chemical changes in substances through which they pass.

Water when exposed to radiation undergoes a breakdown sequence into hydrogen peroxide, hydrogen radicals and assorted oxygen compounds such as ozone which when converted back into oxygen releases great amounts of energy. Some of these are explosive. This decomposition is produced mainly by the alpha particles, that can be entirely absorbed by very thin layers of water. This fact was not recognized by early experiments.

It has been observed by Runge, Bodl?nder, Ramsay, Kernbaum, Duane, and Scheuer that a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen obtained by the decomposition of water by radium radiation contains an excess of hydrogen. The excess is greater in the early stages of the reaction and has been found to amount to an excess of 36% in one case. Kernbaum showed that hydrogen peroxide is formed in water in an amount equivalent to the deficiency of oxygen in the gaseous mixture. As the quantity of hydrogen peroxide accumulates in the solution a point is reached where its rate of decomposition just balances the new formation, under which condition of dynamic equilibrium the gases evolved would have normal composition. This explains the gradual diminution in the observed excess of hydrogen.

Radiant energy from radium or thorium holds the key to obtaining an endless supply of electrical power. Just a few sprinkles of this magic dust introduced into a weak solution of sodium hydroxide could provide the hydrogen and oxygen for a fuel cell. There is nothing to wear down. The radium or thorium endlessly, day or night, generates hydrogen and oxygen to provide our fuel. The only thing required is to draw off the electrical current, this is so that the gases will not build up. By drawing off the electrical energy the hydrogen and oxygen recombines and reverts back to water. The cycle then starts all over again with nothing to replenish.

In 1907 Bragg calculated that the number of molecules decomposed by alpha particles was almost exactly equal to the number of ions that would have been produced in air. Madam Curie stated in 1910 with respect to the decomposition of water by alpha particles that, "the production of electrolytic gas by radium in solution is of the same order of magnitude as that which one would obtain if the number of molecules of water decomposed by the alpha rays emitted, were equal to the number of ions which these same rays would produce in air." This electrolysis without electrodes is the key to generating almost limitless electrical power.

There is one major difference between the ionization of air and the dissociation of water molecules by alpha ray bombardment. Almost immediately after air is ionized recombination occurs, energy is released in the form of heat. When the water molecule is dissociated very little recombination occurs, less than 5%. This means that molecular dissociation of water that results from alpha decay is over 95% efficient.

Today we have fuel cells that are 50 - 65% efficient in converting hydrogen and oxygen into useful electrical current. Do the math, if the conversion of alpha decay to hydrogen and oxygen gases is over 95% efficient, less than 5% inefficient, this means that we can achieve about 45% to 60% conversion efficiency with our radiant energy fuel cell, and it will go on generating electricity for the lifetime of the fuel cell. All we need to do now is to find out what a gram of radium or thorium is in relationship to a watt of electricity. We now take this figure and divide it by 2. This will give us a pretty fair estimate of how much radium that we will require for x amount of electricity.



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Re: Linnard?s patent is out ! Splitting H2O just with a catalysator !
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2005, 03:56:00 PM »
I see, and thank you,
I appreciate the report, but I don't like thinking about mixing radioisotopes with water,
the government would screw it up and say it's safe when it's not/ppl would, could die and
I also don't like thinking about burning our water supply as fuel. I'm doing research on h2o
splitting among other things but I don't think it will help us.It just doesn't sit well with me

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Re: Linnard?s patent is out ! Splitting H2O just with a catalysator !
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2005, 03:57:04 PM »
I am working on another way

 

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