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innovation_station

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The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
« on: September 02, 2007, 06:01:14 PM »
hello im william the innovation station is a company i formed for my work  i have a unit that will be for sale shortly that will be able to take houses off grid i have all nessary information to make this  i have built most of it already there is 1 thing left to build but i am poor and can not afford to compleat alone so i make an offer to those that have an intrest in somthing like this

i had a person who was going to fund me but i have given up on him i can not wait forever so now i post serching for someone who has money to waste for a short peorid of time this is already proven to work  so it is a matter of build it make it work and devolep a plan for mass production the thing is it is all open source that was my choise

im looking for 5000$ us to finish the prototype and show to the investor an ou machine with huge output and yes i can do this but im poor and money holds me back it is just so sad!!

if you are intrested in buying or  helping to compleate this you can contact me at

innovation.station@hotmail.com                       

a list for sales is now forming   

the thing is they will not be cheep to build or buy  the materials must be of the highest quality money can buy  so  i can currently give demos of my turbine wich is the prime mover in this unit it is finished to the point of testing

if you want to know more contact me

william

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Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2007, 09:26:30 PM »
i had a person who was going to fund me but i have given up on him i can not wait forever so now i post serching for someone who has money to waste...


My suggestion: quickly go back to that person that has ?money to waste? ;) and ask again, this time very, very nicely. Who knows? Miracles are said to happen?

But then, as a second thought, you?re going to deeply disappoint him/her when you?ll open source the final product. Or you?re not going to open-source it? Maybe I misunderstood you?

Well, regardless the choice you?ll make, take good care not to be trapped in the ?fraud? picture.
You?re getting very close to the frame?
And it would be ever sadder than your actual situation?

Frankly,
Tinu

innovation_station

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Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2007, 09:45:32 PM »
i dont have to go back to him when he realizes  he will contact me!!!

OPENSOURCE yes it is already

the ou componment will only be bought from me or others that will sell it it will not be made public and can never be duplicated properly ;)

so build the machine yourself if you have the skills  order the part that makes it happin you can not build this part it must be purchesed for all machines from me or the inventor

i gave my work all away i can not do the same with his work that is wrong sorry all but i have respect

this is no fraud   but  think as you will

william     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  funny if you all think this can not be done~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 
what is this worth?  i know right now 10 000 will not build a perfect machine the scale i have here at home and playing with currently there is a great deal of work involved in 1 machine and a great cost  but if it runs for a year or even  6 months nonstop with no repairs all is good agin almost nothing to break but i waste all my time getting my point across cuz it is a fraud!!!! im poor that is my only problem right now


 

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Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2007, 10:30:34 PM »
OPENSOURCE yes it is already

the ou componment will only be bought from me or others that will sell it it will not be made public and can never be duplicated properly ;)

so build the machine yourself if you have the skills  order the part that makes it happin you can not build this part it must be purchesed for all machines from me or the inventor
Am I the only one who thinks OXYMORON when reading this?

innovation_station

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Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2007, 10:46:20 PM »
you know what perhaps you all might not get this from me after all

maybe it should be a big puzzel like the tpu and all other current ou devices

the funny thing is i want help this world and this world does not want to help me

maybe i will wait now 10 years make my billions then give it away  ;)

is that the right way?

isteam!!

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Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2007, 12:15:59 AM »
G'day all,

Quote from: innovation_station on Today at 04:01:14 PM
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now i post serching for someone who has money to waste

Freudian slip?

Hans von Lieven

innovation_station

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Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2007, 12:49:51 AM »
i will now clear this up money to waste as in you will not get it back cuz it will be spent on marerials to build the overunity componment

then the person can see the unit in operation and i will build them a simple unit that works or offer them a perecntage in the project

all on paper of course if it does not work the overunity componment you then are still in half with me on my turbine wich i have already finished and payed for all by my self


so how do you lose the only loss here is me giving more of my work away for next to nothing but people it does work why would some one waste time telling me things that are not true where i got this info i a verry trusted source his work works and so does mine

i say no more im sick of it!!!

you all will lose not me

i already have all i need i can build this at  any time in my life when i have more money

none of you can build this cuz you do not know how to    and pardon me if for some reason some of you do know how

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Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2007, 02:27:14 AM »
@innovation_station

Build what? Is it already described here on the forum?

Look, don't get discouraged because someone did not write you a check a minute after you posted. Geez. There is a certain method to the madness.

So keep your cool.

Also, there is nothing wrong with giving out your device to open source and supplying a key component that nobody could make anyways. If people can make 90% of it and buy 10% of it from you, this is perfectly good and even a smart way to both build up some financial strength so you can help more people and to ensure that the key component is always made under the strictest quality control.

My business motto is that "My past clients count on us to make present profits, so we will be there for them in the future". Makes the world go round.

Keep your focus. Don't blow this on a whim.

Hey are you in Canada, near Montreal?

You are maybe not aware of the business dynamics. You have a learning curve in business to build up if you want to go through with this in the manner you have chosen.

And stop saying you are poor. A popular motivator once described when he had lost all his shares in a major computer company downfall said to his wife, "Honey I lost everything, even our home", and she answered "No, you still have your brain and your will.".

Question: If what you are lacking is some physical mechanism, gearing, or other components, maybe contact some local industrial suppliers and speak with them about your idea and if they would be interested in providing some components for a share of the action. Most local businesses have money, and if you are at arms length to them, this is alot more comforting to them to know you are there locally. Plus some businesses could lose 5 grand and not even blink.

Again keep your focus and I will give you one sentence of positive affirmation that if you repeat twice a day, your problem will soon be solved. Here it is so tap into this OU.

"Thank you all powerful for the financial help and for the success of my invention all which I HAVE RECEIVED in a just and perfect manner".

Always say it like this so it is as if it is already done. No pleases, no give us (give us means you don't already have it and that is what you are reinforcing - bad, same as when you say I am poor - cause that's what you will get), only thank you for you already having it. This is powerful and you need it. So do many others but that's another story. Always finish it with "in a just and perfect manner" so no bad things happen to others you may know or love for you to get your help.

Anyone else, I know it sounds crazy, so don't bash me about this. It works. It's called positive affirmations. Not negative enforcement like the Lords' Prayer which is dead end negative and they've been repeating it for centuries. Ouch.

All the best.

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Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2007, 02:28:46 AM »
Hello innovation_station,
the question is:
what will be the KWH-electricity price , generated by your e-machine !

My own research and the material input calculations after some years experiments defines
the actual  max-price: 1 EURO-cent(0,01 EURO)/KWH for small generators.

Is your machine-concept competitive ?

Sincerely
              dL

p.s.: When russian natural gas is sold by 55 US$ per 1000cbm(=11000KWH energy-aequivalent),
       the russian cogeneration price,plant amortisation included, is also 1 Euro-cent/KWH !

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Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2007, 02:36:45 AM »
Also, there is nothing wrong with giving out your device to open source and supplying a key component that nobody could make anyways.
Of course there is something wrong! You can't call it open source without disclosing it completely, can you?

innovation_station

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Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2007, 02:48:28 AM »
thank you wattsup

your words help me to think clearly

@iancalV i can make it for even more money have absoutly no electrical in put required to operate so really the price /kwh can be 0

this can be achived with the use of an overunity magnet motor to replace the electrict one that presureizes the water b4 the turbine uses it

really the sky is the limit i can even remove my turbine and make an all in 1 unit motor generator like the muller motor generator his input on 1 of his units was 38 amps out put using only 5 pairs of coils was just under 400 amps  i perfer my turbine because of its high speed if build proper i would expect upto 1000 amps at the proper speed but agin this is a guess  but a verry good one


william

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Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2007, 02:52:11 AM »
Hello wattsup,
I hope that your daily nutrition is not only based on Dale Carnegie lecture !

Our actual business is ridiculous,has nothing to do with real,
science-oriented, economy(onced,upon a time:HARVARD/HUMBOLD):
it is out of border !

So do not tell about  knowledge of "common" business behaviour,
normally this actual business behaviour will end like in Germany
the after "Weimarer Republik" Party !

I have heared,the US-Miliz give the Bush-Administration only more 3 months !
US-Miliz~ Frei-Korps( Dorfsche Generals-Luder)

S
 dL

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Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2007, 02:59:31 AM »
innovation_station,
there is not: energia for gratia !
You have to calculate the price for each KWH based by the financial  machine investment !
You have to spent for materials/mechanical transformation costs/transport et cetera !

So,what is the price for each KW-installation !
Over 250 Euros/337,5 US$ per KW,20 KW range  ?

S
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Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2007, 04:51:44 AM »
nope  no idea on the cost it will pay for itsself in a short time

sell the extra back to the grid!!!

so now you have free electricty and a monthly income a bad investment

i guess so

 finally it is resolved

investment opertunitys are gone !!!

get ready all my marteials are being ordered this week and are to be shiped to me so soon enough a video for all to see

half of my project has just been sold!!!

 ;D now you will all see

william

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Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2007, 05:24:42 AM »
A sad day in the quest for understanding...a very,very sad day.

adds....now this!