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RunningBare

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ZeroFossilFuel is the man!
« on: September 02, 2007, 03:05:57 PM »
I great video from ZeroFossilFuel posted just a day ago, the man is a star!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc3mUwx8BAw

I cannot wait to hear of further results from him.

TheOne

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Re: ZeroFossilFuel is the man!
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2007, 08:56:42 PM »
yeah i am subscribed to his video for a while

I wait to see his result using EFIE device, I dont use hydrogen right now but I made a lot of change
on my jeep, and I am pretty sure EFIE can prob help even without hydrogen. I was able to go from 14L/100km to 10L/100km just with some change not related to hydrogen. I bet EFIE can prob increase my mileage by 15% but I was waiting to see if its really usefull since my jeep have 2 oxygen sensor its not a little modification.

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Re: ZeroFossilFuel is the man!
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2007, 09:01:29 AM »
TheOne,

14L/100km to 10L/100km is a lot. How did you do that?

hanker886

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Re: ZeroFossilFuel is the man!
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2007, 06:58:33 PM »
I changed the exaust with AreaTurbine (http://www.aeroperformanceexhaust.com/)
changed the 8 spark plugs with Halo spark plug (http://www.greenprogress.com/transportation_article.php?id=168)
Also I changed the oil with synthetic oil

I Changed the negative wire with better wire, and added something to help to distribute the current on the car. All that changed from 14L to 10L without any hydrogen cell!

Almost forget, I added AirTab on the back of the jeep to remove drag on the highway

here my jeep: http://www.amanatsuspace.com/view_picture.php?view=6

So now the next step will be to add the EFIE + CONDENSATOR + HYDROGEN CELL
But i will do that later, I don't use my jeep a lot so its not really a problem the oil price for me now.

I bet the EFIE will make my jeep go to 8.5 - 9L, adding the condensator will make it go down from 8.5 to 7.5. Hydrogen prob a big 40% on the 7.5 -> 4! :) hopefully

ITs not that bad for a big v8 4.7L :P

Remember 10L is on the highway, a Jeep in the city is not really fuel efficient lol

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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2007, 07:35:49 AM »
Hello everyone. Haven't checked in here in a bit and suddenly I'm a celebrity.  ;D

People have been asking me about the EFIE so I guess this is as good a place as any to post my schematic. The calibration video is inaccurate. Can't measure the offset the way I attempted to show because the ECU is always compensating. Only way to monitor the offset would be by computer if the vehicle was newer than '96' with OD2. Mine isn't so it's trial and error for me. Right now at 200mV which seems to work well. When I get some time a full site will be erected at http://zerofossilfuel.angelfire.com/ with all schematics, mechanical drawings and index of video links.

Glue is setting on the rebuilt electrolyzer as I write this. Plates still have to be conditioned before going back into service. That's going to take a few days. New plate config PnnnnnnMnnnnnnP. 1.97v/cell @13.8V. Electrolyte concentration is 56 grams NaOH to 1.5 liters distilled water. The new unit will have some additional acrylic wafers glued to the top edges of the plates similar to the bottom to prevent leakage, allowing it to be fully submerged without loss of efficiency and eliminating concerns about critical fluid levels. Best posted efficiency with previous plate configs 4.26ml/min/watt. 100% efficiency is somewhere around 7ml/min/watt. I'll be happy with anything close. If I'm lucky I might see OU.

Cheers everyone!
ZFF

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Re: ZeroFossilFuel is the man!
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2007, 12:05:19 PM »
Where do you live, zero?

I would be cautious about driving a modified car on the road.

If you are in an accident and they deem the modifications to be illegal or the cause of the accident you probably won't be covered by any sort of insurance.

Results are impressive however. Keep up the good work!

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Re: ZeroFossilFuel is the man!
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2007, 03:46:58 AM »
added something to help to distribute the current on the car.

The One
Just a quick seperate question to the topic

What is that 'something' to help distribute the current you mentioned?

OzMan1 ;D

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Re: ZeroFossilFuel is the man!
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2007, 04:43:22 AM »
Voltage stabilizer,

I used a lot my jeep in city for the last 3 weeks now and it sucks hard lol, on highway it fine but not city

I have a new car now, i need to sell the jeep :), So i will get better result in city with this car, at least the new car have like my jeep an internal computer showing in realtime the mileage/consommation. Its still a big motor 3.2L V6 but surprising quite economic even in city 

I will start to mod the car with a catch can upgraded like a condensator with sillica-gel for the filter inside the catch can, and something to push more air in the engine.

If I get positive result i will put the result here. The car have 477k km :) so that will be a good car to test stuff on it!

Later the hydrogen, I prefer have the catch can before so when I will put the hydrogen cell, i will connect it directly after the catch can on the PCV valve instead of air filter. Not sure if its better in this configuration. we will see!


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Re: ZeroFossilFuel is the man!
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2007, 03:10:43 AM »
@All - Tonight as I was prepping my new 316L plates for another experimental cell, the thought occurred to me to deconstruct my original S-Cell and reuse some of the parts, specifically the slotted plate rack, then cut up the rest of the tank to make new plate columns. It's the cell depicted in the photos below.

Then I thought, hey, I pur a lot of work into this thing. I wonder if anyone else might want it to get a jump start into their own HHO experiments. And so here I am to guage how much interest there might be in bidding on this on ebay? If I did, how much do you think it would bring? Anyone?

Zero

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Re: ZeroFossilFuel is the man!
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2007, 03:37:52 AM »
Then I thought, hey, I pur a lot of work into this thing. I wonder if anyone else might want it to get a jump start into their own HHO experiments. And so here I am to guage how much interest there might be in bidding on this on ebay? If I did, how much do you think it would bring? Anyone?

Zero

Hey Zero,
    I am watching your stuff on youtube tonite... really inspiring effort. I found this posting after hearing your frustration with youtube in one of your vids.  I am very interested in your work and devotion.  I noticed your angelfire site doesn't have anything on it but a couple favorite links ...huh?!
   I am thinking... hey man, if you are having problems with your hosting maybe we can work something out... I would be willing to provide hosting for you at cost, i.e., I run a shared hosting plan and would be happy to donate hosting for you basically for free, until the shear amount of video started costing me for storage, or something like that.  We can always add more storage too.
   I am a professional electronics and computer engineer... I run the hosting mostly for my personal clients.  Anyway, if you are interested please post back -- or simple send me a message personally (by clicking on my profile-name) and include your email for me to respond to you privately.  My thought is, if we do begin a dialog I would like to (privately of course) tell you more about me, and learn a little more about you... and then we can take it from there... how does that sound?

   And... Man... forget ebay, surely someone here or at youtube would simply make you an offer... hell, I would if I had any dough right now... I really would love to begin outfitting my jeep toward alternative to oil based fuel ...(plus it gets 10mpg -but its a killer machine)!!! so I am sure you can understand! HA!
   Anyway, no matter..., more power to you, and thanks so much for publicly sharing your efforts - I think its awesome.

Cheers,
Rick/TwoHawks

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Re: ZeroFossilFuel is the man!
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2007, 09:41:26 PM »
Wow! I was always under the impression that you had to have a tank of compressed hydrogen to deliver the fuel to the intake manifold. Zerofossilfuel proved that a car can use hydrogen as it's being produced. This will considerably reduce the chances of a high explosion from compressed gas. I just hope Congress doesn't have an "emergency meeting" to deem the zero cell some kind of "hazard". Keep up your research everyone. I sure am.

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Re: ZeroFossilFuel is the man!
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2007, 11:20:53 PM »
Ain't it Cool  :)

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Re: ZeroFossilFuel is the man!
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2007, 11:34:01 PM »
Yes it is IH.

Z, Great idea. I wouldnt sell it cheap tho. I know how much work it takes to make em. And besides its a part of ZFF-HHO history. Damn thing may be priceless some day..

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Re: ZeroFossilFuel is the man!
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2007, 11:41:18 PM »
Wow! I was always under the impression that you had to have a tank of compressed hydrogen to deliver the fuel to the intake manifold. Zerofossilfuel proved that a car can use hydrogen as it's being produced. This will considerably reduce the chances of a high explosion from compressed gas. I just hope Congress doesn't have an "emergency meeting" to deem the zero cell some kind of "hazard". Keep up your research everyone. I sure am.


Surely you dont think we'd quit building just because a bunch of greedy nitwhits like congress or any other damn bunch of greedy sphinkters deside they think we should ,, do ya? That Aint gonna happen!

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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2007, 12:53:19 AM »
Changed my mind. Not for sale.

If any of you haven't seen my latest vid you should check it. I cranked up the pump this afternoon for a quick test. Massive gas increase is not an illusion. With the cell at room temp and producing x amount of hho, after putting 24" Hg to it, it produced gas so fast that the bubbler couldn't contain the fluid it held. I'm not talking about just a measureable difference. I'm talking about "HOLY SHIT, BATMAN!!!" 5x-10x more gas! And no, I do not have any leakes in my system.

If I'm getting ~70% effieiency at atmospheric now,

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