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Offline Nastrand2000

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advertisement in between postings
« on: September 01, 2007, 08:09:24 AM »
We all know you have to make money off this site.....but please kill the sponsored  adds after every post

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Offline AhuraMazda

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advertisement in between postings
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2007, 09:31:27 AM »
Maybe Stefan needs to by a new car.

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advertisement in between postings
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2007, 09:52:21 AM »
Hi,
I am currently testing out new ads on the forum,
cause the members are increasing, but the clicked
ads was decreasing.

I have now only text ads inside the topics, so
this is less intrusive and I will soon change a few things
cause I have to try out other text ads.

Also I will have a real paid membership,
where you will get rid of all ads for a very small
fee per month or year...

The income from this will go in major parts to the active
users, that produce reports and add new content.

Stay tuned for more.....

Regards, Stefan.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2007, 10:34:31 AM by hartiberlin »

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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2007, 09:52:21 AM »
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Offline AhuraMazda

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Re: advertisement in between postings
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2007, 11:03:18 AM »
You may kill off the goose that is trying to lay the golden egg!

Offline shruggedatlas

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Re: advertisement in between postings
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2007, 11:04:36 AM »
I have now only text ads inside the topics, so
this is less intrusive

On the contrary, this is the most intrusive thing possible.  The forums are the main things that we read.  We can tune out the things outside of the forum frame, but with this, we are forced to scan past them.

By the way, there is a theory, which I think is valid, that goes something like this.  Ads should only be displayed to the unique or relatively infrequent visitor, and return visitors should get ads turned off.  This may seem counterintuitive, but it makes sense.  Think about the unique or first time visitor.  There is a good chance he or she just stumbled on this board by sheer accident.  For example, if I was searching for new motor parts, and for some reason google threw me over here because new motor sounds like newman motor, and if there is an ad for motors, I may click on it.  However, if I was a frequent visitor, I frankly would not care what you advertised, because I did not come to the site for helpful suggestions about things I may want to buy - I came on to read the forums.  Anyway, that is the theory.

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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2007, 11:04:36 AM »
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Offline Omega_0

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Re: advertisement in between postings
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2007, 04:11:27 PM »
I don't think I'll visit this forum again, if I'm forced to see ads after EVERY post.

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Re: advertisement in between postings
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2007, 07:26:02 PM »
I don't think I'll visit this forum again, if I'm forced to see ads after EVERY post.

Okay, I changed it now, so that at least 2 or 3  postings are between ads.

How much would you be willing to pay per month / year
for no ads at all ?

If every member , who would not be willing to see any ads at
all will pay 1 to 5 US$ per month, we could finance the
guys, who already do projects on a shoestring budgets and
ad articles and test reports over here.

Non paying members would still have access, but only
with inbetween posting ads.

So, would you at all be willing to pay a monthly / yearly fee
for faster access without ads and/or to more test reports,
where you could get yourself be paid for, if you have done these ?

So compare it to a magazine subscription.
If you have subscribed for instance to the Magazine Nature you
also have to pay a monthly fee for the new monthly issue of the magazine.

I am setting up a poll, so please vote and let me know your opinion.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2007, 12:25:24 AM by hartiberlin »

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Offline hartiberlin

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Re: advertisement in between postings
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2007, 07:47:09 PM »
I have now only text ads inside the topics, so
this is less intrusive

On the contrary, this is the most intrusive thing possible.  The forums are the main things that we read.  We can tune out the things outside of the forum frame, but with this, we are forced to scan past them.

By the way, there is a theory, which I think is valid, that goes something like this.  Ads should only be displayed to the unique or relatively infrequent visitor, and return visitors should get ads turned off.  This may seem counterintuitive, but it makes sense.  Think about the unique or first time visitor.  There is a good chance he or she just stumbled on this board by sheer accident.  For example, if I was searching for new motor parts, and for some reason google threw me over here because new motor sounds like newman motor, and if there is an ad for motors, I may click on it.  However, if I was a frequent visitor, I frankly would not care what you advertised, because I did not come to the site for helpful suggestions about things I may want to buy - I came on to read the forums.  Anyway, that is the theory.

Hi shruggedatlas,
yes you are somehow right and I agree.
I could disable all ads for members and only leave the advertisement
for guest visitors, who have not registered yet here.
But that would drive up the userbase even more and produce more traffic that is
not being paid for.

I really want here the best minds of the whole world who will
find the solution to our energy crisis and only together we will
solve this "puzzle".

So as here are many poor students from all over the world,
but which are smart and clever and have bright new ideas,
I want to give them some support by giving out monthly
money for their work and articles and test reports.

But this could only work, if the memberbase would be willing to
pay a monthly fee like a newspaper subscription.

In this moment overunity.com only generates about 200 to 300
US$ in revenue each month and if the userbase will increase as fast as it now
goes, I might need to change soon the hosting features will
will cost more money and which could handle the bigger traffic...

So I am really looking into alternative revenue plans and
also to support the community via payments from a possible
monthly membership.

So please post your views about this and let me know
your comments.
Many thanks.
P.S: OverUnity.com will always be free to browse
also for visitors, but with ads.

Offline Iosh

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Re: advertisement in between postings
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2007, 07:50:19 PM »
This is the worst kind of ad placing I've ever seen on a forum, it's bound to make people dislike the place a lot.
If people does not like or care about advertisements, triplicating their appearances won't make them more prone to click on them; it'll make them think the place turned into a spam-ridden dump.

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Re: advertisement in between postings
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2007, 12:31:00 AM »
This is the worst kind of ad placing I've ever seen on a forum, it's bound to make people dislike the place a lot.
If people does not like or care about advertisements, triplicating their appearances won't make them more prone to click on them; it'll make them think the place turned into a spam-ridden dump.

Since I made this change since yeasterday the clickthrough rate has been risen.
I really need to checkout how it goes for a few days, so I have to decide
how to do it more userfriendly and the least intrusive.
During the next days I will try different setups as I add different text advertisers.
I disabled already the Google Adsense graphic banner ads, so only text ads and no more long loading
flashy annoying graphics banners. So I hope you liked that already which makes
the site load faster.

Regards, Stefan.

Offline Iosh

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Re: advertisement in between postings
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2007, 12:56:52 AM »
Column ads on both sides of the forum content are very unobtrusive, and column text ads are possible too.
Not to mention there is a lot of total column space on each forum page so you could easily fit those annoying ad posts on the side columns, and even more.

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Re: advertisement in between postings
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2007, 01:45:30 AM »
Stefan,

Just wondering, did you also shrink the text size here?

Just a bit harder to read quickly, I was used to the old color/size of the text.

Thanks...

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: advertisement in between postings
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2007, 01:51:34 AM »
Column ads on both sides of the forum content are very unobtrusive, and column text ads are possible too.
Not to mention there is a lot of total column space on each forum page so you could easily fit those annoying ad posts on the side columns, and even more.

Yes, but many user members don?t even click once a day these ads at the borders...
So now as in between the posts the clickrate has gone up.

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Re: advertisement in between postings
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2007, 01:53:23 AM »
Stefan,

Just wondering, did you also shrink the text size here?

Just a bit harder to read quickly, I was used to the old color/size of the text.

Thanks...

Yes, I changed the font to fit the Google adsense fonts.
Unfortunately I can not change the Google fonts and
so to have the same fonts I had to change the forum fonts  over from Verdana to Arial
so the Google ads look more integrated.

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Re: advertisement in between postings
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2007, 04:49:04 AM »
i don't understand why you want make money, no one will pay, if you make poeples pay your site will be empty.

also ads between post SUCKS HARD. i will begin to look out for other forums similar to this one now!

We have enough crap ads TOP LEFT RIGHT now in the middle its completly to much

Anyway no one will click on it, if that append its an error, if you made thousand from this site in ADS its a lot to pay all stuffs related to the site.

 

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