Author Topic: All Open sourced engineers please register with us (Read 6567 times)

ashtweth_nihilisti · « **on:** August 30, 2007, 08:49:53 AM »

To be eligible for grants to work on your technology in our proposed granted research and development center.
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/ResearchandDevelopment.htm

its as EASY as name email and country.
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/EngineersApplication.htm

regards
ashtweth

FreeEnergy · « **Reply #1 on:** August 30, 2007, 10:24:35 AM »

wow and thank you!

OPEN SOURCE is the only way!

otto · « **Reply #2 on:** August 30, 2007, 11:26:12 AM »

Hello all,

@ashtweth

Thanks a lot.

Otto

ashtweth_nihilisti · « **Reply #3 on:** August 31, 2007, 02:26:13 AM »

I expect the panacea email to be spammed

We are pilot scaling devices in order to get you guys grants, we are volunteer open sourced engineers

Thanks for comments guys.

zero · « **Reply #4 on:** August 31, 2007, 03:20:52 PM »

Sorry to be a wet noodle...

But do you really think its safe to register names and emails in one
location?

The govt. is capable of email interceptions.

What protections can you really provide these people?

helmut · « **Reply #5 on:** August 31, 2007, 04:05:39 PM »

Quote from: zero on August 31, 2007, 03:20:52 PM

Sorry to be a wet noodle...

But do you really think its safe to register names and emails in one
location?

The govt. is capable of email interceptions.

What protections can you really provide these people?

Thats the point!
It is just as that all antiwar activist try too meet at a fixed point on a fixed day.
Undercover Agends und or ,Robocops will come and at least caugh all on tape.
Register everyone at a checkpoint,that was installed just for this purpose.
And so on.

helmut

zero · « **Reply #6 on:** August 31, 2007, 07:50:53 PM »

I dont get it.

If I were in the game, I could pretend to be active in the community.
Get linked into the system, and make buddies with you.
Get your personal contacts thru gained trust.
Come over to take you out.

Or simply, track web traffic to intercept the emails..
(or just break into the email box)
get the signatures of where the data came from.
Knock on doors.

Im thinking that there has to be some sort of anonymous system
in place. Sort of a super ever changing encrypted 'Dark Net' setup.
However, this is beyond my scope of understanding.

Just saying that all users should be anonymous until 100%
discovery, public results fully posted and shared on large scale,
and safety is secured.

hansvonlieven · « **Reply #7 on:** September 01, 2007, 03:40:04 AM »

G'day all,

Ashtweth is right, to hell with all that cloak and dagger stuff, openness is the only way to go.

The trouble with secrecy and anonymity is that in places where this ranks high nothing positive ever gets achieved.

Look at governments and "Intelligence" services the world over.

Nuff said

Hans von Lieven

zero · « **Reply #8 on:** September 01, 2007, 09:54:04 AM »

Im not saying that the work is secret. Just somehow keep the
submissions without Identity. And somehow cover tracks
so that the uploader does not get found.

The thing they dont usually mess with is when you have tons
of cameras set up.

But not everyone is going to have a bunch of cameras, that
feed to a few places, which also has a backup generator
in case they cut the power.

helmut · « **Reply #9 on:** September 01, 2007, 10:40:12 AM »

Quote from: zero on September 01, 2007, 09:54:04 AM

Im not saying that the work is secret. Just somehow keep the
submissions without Identity. And somehow cover tracks
so that the uploader does not get found.

The thing they dont usually mess with is when you have tons
of cameras set up.

But not everyone is going to have a bunch of cameras, that
feed to a few places, which also has a backup generator
in case they cut the power.

I will go and post my Ideas here just as i have them.
Nothing to hide Nothing to loose
That is how open source should work

@ashtweth
You make a great offer And on one hand it is a brilliant Plan ,and you will get me trust.
But on the other Hand The Database in your Computers are the week point.

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To be eligible for grants to work on your technology in our proposed granted research and development center.
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/ResearchandDevelopment.htm

helmut

ashtweth_nihilisti · « **Reply #10 on:** September 03, 2007, 04:24:34 AM »

Hi All, Thank for the kind words, we will be a public institution so they cannot touch us, as we are in the public eye, it is not illegal to work on higher efficient power management, we have already donated equipment via sponsorship to registered engineers and given some grants away

so far the Mib's havent bitten

we actually don't have the records 'on line' but the government knows who works on FE, and can track you via satellite they are already on the forums, as Ravi found out.

Good points tho! i have thought about this before, but i feel once FE/Suppression is exposed publicly, the spooks fear intimidation and will not come near our public research and development center, or they validate FE suppression and expose themself.

Mean time all you guys who don't want your non profit org to know who you are, make sure i can still provide you guys with grants

Make sure i can contact you another way and or know about you, i feel so far we are safe tho guys ,but leave it up to you.

PS we have over 200 so far, i feel if the public knew that there are 7000 as the OU forum has, prepared to work on open sourced tech, then it makes my job easier to get you guys some grants and a SAFE center in the PUBLIC eye. [social reform].

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