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Goat

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Re: MRA -Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2008, 06:10:26 AM »
@Grumpy

Ok I got you're drift, I'll leave it to Ash to prove it....

Regards,
Paul

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Re: MRA -Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2008, 06:47:36 AM »
Hi Goat and Grump, that's more like the attitude of an R and D forum, please don't wait for my results in DC to confirm, please try your own results and share. This is what i want, for too long the dis info has crippled the MRA, and i know not all are bad here. We do need moderation tho. Please try some experiment mean time :). If the thread stays like this ill come back with the DC and help with yours. Mean time BUILD and share.  :)

thanks guys
Ash

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Re: MRA -Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2008, 09:33:14 AM »
Hi Goat and Grump, that's more like the attitude of an R and D forum, please don't wait for my results in DC to confirm, please try your own results and share. This is what i want, for too long the dis info has crippled the MRA, and i know not all are bad here. We do need moderation tho. Please try some experiment mean time :). If the thread stays like this ill come back with the DC and help with yours. Mean time BUILD and share.  :)

thanks guys
Ash

@ Ash, good news see:

RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6225.0


ashtweth_nihilisti

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Re: MRA -Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2008, 09:39:13 AM »
Hi wings, thanks for this addition, aha Luc..yes Luc rawks :D :)

Koen1

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Re: MRA -Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2008, 12:37:48 PM »
You have a strange way about you Ash...

First you say you don't want to listen to criticism,
and that you choose to totally ignore my post about
the LEDs (probably too logical eh? It just makes too
much sense to even consider it, is that the idea? Lol),

but then you do thank Grumpy for his "R and D",
while what Grumpy did was point out how useless
your RMA was.
But apparently you chose not to read what he posted and chose
to fantasise that he said something in support of your RMA experiments.

Very odd. So a post by G saying your RMA is crap is considered "R and D",
and a post by me saying your RMA is interesting but can you make sure
it's not just a Joule Thief variation is ignored for being too critical??!!
That does not make sense sir!
If that is the type of logic you use all the time, then you might want to
revisit logic class 101.

Oh, besides, you've said several times now that you're going to stop posting here
because the people here are just too critical and rational for you.
Yet you keep posting. ;)

ashtweth_nihilisti

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Re: MRA -Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2008, 12:41:35 PM »
Yes i do after the thread changes, and No, not critical, or rational, just non building,  skeptic and arm chair. Go light up 8 LED's same rating as ours  on .04 watts catalog no is posted. You should of done that FIRST.
it doesn't matter, Your post about the LED's don't matter. I wont explain why to you again.  You go build the MRA and prove your theft THEORY to your self.

Better still go light up 8 LED's same rating as ours same parts rating, on .o4 watts  you go do it. no one cares about your skepticism. Your an arm chair skeptic go build some thing  or you or any one else who does the same will get the blame for spamming this thread and results not being posted here.I have stated Build and share. If you cannot conform to this, then you do not belong in this thread or this thread is useless here for genuine researches.

If you have doubts about the device, then move on, don't contribute to the dis info that's kept the MRA from surfacing for years, i warned about this early, so i think the engineers here will understand where i am coming from. i wont warn you/others again. Since i have no ability to mod here, and no time for these posts. i will be left no choice.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2008, 01:20:36 PM by ashtweth_nihilisti »

Koen1

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Re: MRA -Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2008, 02:33:46 PM »
Yes i do after the thread changes,
Please stop implying that you're going to change your attitue after the thread magically changes into your private blog. (as if that's going to happen)
This is a discussion forum, you rocked up with some claims, and discussing them is what is happening.

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and No, not critical, or rational, just non building,  skeptic and arm chair.
Bla bla. Simply not willing to discuss it is what you mean.
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Go light up 8 LED's same rating as ours  on .04 watts catalog no is posted. You should of done that FIRST.
Probably mean should
have? So I should have lit up 8 LEDs (you said 9 and I said one plus and additional 8, but I guess that's being too critical and arm-chair again eh?)
to prove the Joule Thief circuit works (already proven, I really don't need to repeat it with 9 LEDs), but you do not have to contemplate the possibility
of the Joule Thief "effect" playing a role in your setup? Right. So you refuse to accept the JT works even though hundreds of people around the world
have already proven it to work, but I may not question your RMA which people generally consider disproven by Puthoff already? That's odd..

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it doesn't matter, Your post about the LED's don't matter.

Oh right. Because you don't even want to consider the possibility?
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I wont explain why to you again.
"again"? You haven't explained it even once.
All you "explain" is that you choose to ignore Puthoffs analysis, that you choose to not want to even listen to
my LED story, that you choose to declare all posts except those that in your opinion do not support your view worthless.
That is no explanation, that is just showing your arbitrary criteria for selecting what you want to hear.

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You go build the MRA and prove your theft THEORY to your self.
What? "Theft theory"? What the heck is that?
And why exactly would I need to build an MRA to see if I can light up 9 LEDs from one weak battery using a Joule Thief type setup?
No, if I'd want to prove that, I'd be better off building a JT circuit and lighting the 9 LEDs with it, and measuring what input that needs.
If then the input needed is comparable to the input you're feeding your MRA (or less), then that would seem to indicate your MRA
setup is in fact a form of Joule Thief.
On the other hand, someone who already has an MRA could easily compare the relative energy input and apparent LED output
with the values available from JT tests. If your MRA clearly lights more LEDs than a JT ever could using the same input,
then you'd have shown that your MRA is most likely not just a Joule Thief.
As long as you're going to tell me to build the MRA and test it, I'm going to tell you to build a JT and test it and compare your
results.

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Better still go light up 8 LED's same rating as ours same parts rating, on .o4 watts  you go do it.
Better still, go light up 8 LEDs using a JT and see if that doesn't happen to pull .04 watt. ;)
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no one cares about your skepticism.
Oh, and tons of people are just begging for your extremely sunny attitude, I'm sure.
Lol. Do unto others as you would have done to you. If you want to be taken seriously, take others seriously. If you want to receive
replies of others with dismissal and negativity, then don't act all victimised if people reply to you with less than immediate acceptance
of your claims.
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Your an arm chair skeptic go build some thing
Haha how dare you accuse people you know nothing of?
I do build things and am certainly not just "an arm chair sceptic". But you wouldn't know, you just want to make me look bad.
Unfortunately that doesn't work well, since I have not attacked you nor accused you of anything, and so it is clear to everyone
that you're being quite childish in your replies.
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  or you or any one else who does the same will get the blame for spamming this thread and results not being posted here.I have stated Build and share. If you cannot conform to this, then you do not belong in this thread or this thread is useless here for genuine researches.
Nope, again you're off. My posting of serious questions and suggestions of comparison to the Joule Thief is not "spam", as I think the forum admin
will agree with. Also, that you only want people to "build and share" doesn't mean we can't use the forum as it was intended, namely to discuss things.
And why then do you not "build" a Joule Thief and consider the possibility that it may be very closely relatedto the MRA, like I "shared" with you?
Oh, right, it's supposed to be you doing the sharing and us doing the building, right? Lol.

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If you have doubts about the device, then move on, don't contribute to the dis info that's kept the MRA from surfacing for years, i warned about this early, so i think the engineers here will understand where i am coming from. i wont warn you/others again. Since i have no ability to mod here, and no time for these posts. i will be left no choice.
You'll have no choice but to what?
Post your full schematics and test results?

Funny thing, you could also just give lots of clear and convincing information, and simply not reply to any posts, if all you want is to get the info out there.
If you have no time for such posts, then simply don't post them.
If the data is convincing enough there will be people replicating it.
Shouting "I don't care about Puthoff's analysis, I don't care about doing more proper tests" does not really fall into the category of "convincing data",
by the way.

Okay, so, are we going to see more videos that show more detail?
Are you going to do a test where you power a larger DC load off your MRA while it runs off a much too weak battery?
After all, LEDs are one thing, actual DC motors for example are something else.

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Re: MRA -Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2008, 03:23:46 PM »
All BS aside:

What are the properties of the columnar field that builds around the device?


Norm said that he believes it is an "aetheric field"  - give me some details on this.

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It will not work if the magnet is "cold" and has to warm up for an hour? 

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The MRA output follows the position of the sun and moon so there is some sort of gravity effect which Greg Hodowanec describes in his work with earth gravity fields.

As far as gravity effects, we did measure changes in piezo weight after running at resonance with a gain back to normal after turning off the MRA. Same effect as the famous Nieper Ring circuit.

How was this measured?


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Re: MRA -Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2008, 12:19:48 AM »
Thread is over, Grumpy you can contact me or find the results on the other forums.

Ash

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Re: MRA -Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2008, 05:20:06 AM »
Thread is over, Grumpy you can contact me or find the results on the other forums.

Ash

Too bad.   It is "taboo" to ask twice, so the hell with it.  Never get much with that config anyway.  Input is limited - could never take a loop back from the output.  Relies on ambiant bias fields that don't behave.

Take care and good luck.

Koen1

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Re: MRA -Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2008, 12:05:59 PM »
Yeah well, if someone rocks up making OU claims
but does not want to follow through and actually show
convincing results, nor does he want to hear anything
other than people telling him how great he is,
and then declares the thread "closed",
you gotta wonder how real his OU was... ;)

I thought the point of the LEDs seeming to light up
continually but possibly just flashing faster than for
example 100 times per second so our human eyes
don't see that they're not really burning continually
was a fairly good point...
There's a huge difference between 100 pulses per second
and constant direct current.

But hey, if he doesn't want to show how Puthoff is wrong
in his opinion and doesn't even want to hear about Puthoffs
analysis, and he doesn't want to discuss things either,
then perhaps it's not so bad that he's decided to leave...
If he really only came here to shout "lookit" and not
really talk about it beyond that, then he's done what he
came here to do.
;)

gauschor

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Re: MRA -Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
« Reply #41 on: April 28, 2010, 12:13:01 AM »
Hello all. I know this is an old topic, but I was considering to build this device, since I think that its principles may apply to the function of the Thestatika.
After reading all these collected letters from rexresearch however I am not sure anymore, if it is worth the time. I mean, there were about 500 posts interesting posts talking of measurements and OU, and in the end there was 1 single letter by the institute claiming: "all is bullshit, the device is only 49% efficient".

After this last letter, I have found not any further information regarding this device anymore...

So, does anyone of you know how the status is and if it is worth to investigate in this subject - or ist it really 100% proven that this device delivers only 50% energy?

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Re: MRA -Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2010, 08:55:28 AM »
Better email me we are winding a better version ATM

http://yfrog.com/5cmraj

I dont post here any more

Ash

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Re: MRA -Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
« Reply #43 on: April 28, 2010, 11:41:25 AM »
Yes, I've read in the few pages, that you are not posting here anymore (I think because of all the negative comments). The negative comments however were only based on 1 letter which claims to have disproven the device. I am not convinced by this single letter though. It's not that an "Institute" does everything and always correct (after what I have experienced ridiculous things at university).

Still I would appreciate it if we could work on this as open as possible. I think that's what the forum is here for and it's also easier to exchange information in here than using emails. The more people involved actually doing something the better will be the optimizations. I am not afraid of the negative comments coming from all the chair scientists, in contrary, comparing to on what most people talk about in this forum (e.g. 500 pages about a Joule Thief...) at least there would be enough space for this specific topic :)

If it is a special newsgroup/emailgroup that requires registration, it's ok to email only. Last time however, someone private messaged me in order to tell me some "secret hints" (other topic though), which in the end turned as something, I already knew, so I'm a little bit skeptic about working "behind the curtain" and would rather keep it public.

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Re: MRA -Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
« Reply #44 on: April 28, 2010, 11:44:26 AM »
We discuss the MRA PUBLICLY at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EVGRAY/
minus all THE DISTRACTIONS.