Author Topic: Newman machine confirmed as overunity? (Read 15519 times)

Humbugger · « **Reply #15 on:** August 23, 2007, 01:10:12 PM »

Stefan;

I knew I should have paid more attention in German class 40 years ago! Looks like a thorough and massive report! I'll have to wait for the English version.

Thanks.

Humbugger

H2earth · « **Reply #16 on:** August 24, 2007, 08:19:50 AM »

Stephan,

Ongoing analysis of the WFC functioning continues to suggest that the Newman machine may be an excellent driver circuit for it, and much simpler than Meyer's original.

Would you take your NEM and WFC out of storage, hook them up, and point a cam at it while it operates?

The Meyer WFC circuit is another "Tesla Switch", as is the Newman Commutator. For various reasons, some suggested in Meyer's patents themselves, the Commutator may be a better way of doing it than solid state electronics.

The traditional problem with the Newman machine, those hot spikes that fry batteries and blow caps, are exactly what the Water Fuel Cell WANTS. Wind some nice big coils around your NEM cylinder, add some stronger magnets to your rotor, and bubble us up some Hydroxy!

Those NEGATIVE spikes, representing HOLES rather than Electrons, are EXACTLY what the WFC Anode needs; its objective is to rip the electrons from water during sudden, catastrophic dielectric breakdown, while allowing no current/electrons to enter from the Cathode.

We have reason to suspect that MOSFETS and 555 Timer chips are just not suitable to do what Meyer intended, while the Newman Commutator may be.

yandros · « **Reply #17 on:** August 25, 2007, 05:36:30 PM »

Quote from: H2earth on August 23, 2007, 01:50:45 AM

Please explain how an electron can be "consumed".[/b][/i]

Did you want to try chew me out over a technicality of speech or did you really misunderstand me?

The part of the circuit that exists between the positive and negative terminate, which is acting as a means for charge to be equalized, may be thought of as a supply chain. Either electrons travel from the negative terminal over to the positive terminal and on their way do useful work. Or virtual positive charge particles travel from positive to negative, and do useful work.

Such a circuit only works when there is both supply of electrons and demand for electrons. If you have a single wire which has one end in the earth, and one end in a substance with a large positive charge, then the positive charge will draw electrons from the earth until the two charges become equal. This may be thought of as supply and demand, and thus each electron may be thought to have been 'consumed' as it makes its passage along the wire.

Now if you wanted to chew me out about the technicalities of language then we go into round two. You would of course say 'Electrons are not destroyed, so how can they be consumed?' To which I would say: "Meet Mr. Positron, you git."

Answer your question?

hartiberlin · « **Reply #18 on:** August 25, 2007, 05:48:06 PM »

Quote from: H2earth on August 24, 2007, 08:19:50 AM

Stephan,

Ongoing analysis of the WFC functioning continues to suggest that the Newman machine may be an excellent driver circuit for it, and much simpler than Meyer's original.

Would you take your NEM and WFC out of storage, hook them up, and point a cam at it while it operates?

The Meyer WFC circuit is another "Tesla Switch", as is the Newman Commutator. For various reasons, some suggested in Meyer's patents themselves, the Commutator may be a better way of doing it than solid state electronics.

The traditional problem with the Newman machine, those hot spikes that fry batteries and blow caps, are exactly what the Water Fuel Cell WANTS. Wind some nice big coils around your NEM cylinder, add some stronger magnets to your rotor, and bubble us up some Hydroxy!

Those NEGATIVE spikes, representing HOLES rather than Electrons, are EXACTLY what the WFC Anode needs; its objective is to rip the electrons from water during sudden, catastrophic dielectric breakdown, while allowing no current/electrons to enter from the Cathode.

We have reason to suspect that MOSFETS and 555 Timer chips are just not suitable to do what Meyer intended, while the Newman Commutator may be.

Hi David,
yes, that is planned, but I hadn?t have time yet to do it...
Too much other work going on here right now.

First I also have to fix my commutator and then see, how I can interface the
fuel cell to it.
Probably just have to put it in series with the Newman machine battery power supply
so the huge Back EMF pulse
will rip the water appart into HHO.

I did this a few years back already by putting 2 graphite
electrodes about 1 mm away in saltwater and the water conducted enough to
let the normal input current flow into the coil via the saltwater -electrodes gap.

Then when the commutator of the Newman machine opened the circuit
a big arc was seen under water between the 2 graphite electrodes in the saltwater.
So you can verify that there is going a big current back through this liquid gap.

I will try it with my stainless steel mesh electrolyzer cell then
that has a roll of 2 ss meshes just seperated by a plastic fly mesh.
Should give pretty good HHO production,but I have to see, if tap water would
be enough for the conduction of the input current into the Newman coil
or if I must add some electrolyte.

Also have to get more batteries for more series voltage as my Newman coil has a pretty
high ohmic resistance...

Regards, Stefan.

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