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Author Topic: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???  (Read 143424 times)

Offline Skysabre

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Re: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???
« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2014, 10:38:44 AM »
So sorry, the rewiring didn't work. I used the same capacitors in the Hendershot diagram, and then tested the unit. Later, I added neodymium magnets to the bar magnet. Still, no reaction.

Any more ideas? I'm not about to give up, not just yet.


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Re: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2014, 02:17:43 AM »
Can you explain me in simple terms what the operation principle should be?


I only have a vague guess, when there are magnets and caps, it may be some sort of Back-MMF delay.


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Re: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2014, 03:45:00 AM »
Something I noted was in the writings that he wound the capacitors on coffee cans (for the reason of size was right) but old coffee cans were ferrous... so you have a capacitor with a core that is also interacting with the coil... so while it could be a simple LC oscillator tank (2 of them off-phase)...


kind of like a horizontal opposed airplane engine pumps one side and then the other...


but anyway the C could be variable due to charges moving in the core... and or the capactitance chargine will change the free electrons able to particiapate in induction?


It was written as if 'this is the way things will always be' so it's hard to interpret some... but it appears that the russian one used normal barrel caps, and those are aluminum so that's not part of the idea.


Ideally a sign that it was going to would would be if you could get enough charge in the solenoid to affect the bar ... and conversly have a violent enough motion of the bar that it triggers the coils with enough voltage to result in enough current in other parts to do useful things...


First time I plugged this into LTSpice it generated infinite voltage; but it was over idealized and adding a capacitance in the solenoids fixed that issue....


The circuit is basically a few coils connected between capacitors with the other side of capacitors attacthed to other coils.  A few of the coils are also coupled at a 5:1 voltage transform ratio.


I would have expected conventional transformers to have too much reluctance/resistance; but my toroids that were 6:30 windings didn't help (didn't hurt probably but would have been more susceptable to lower voltages) (I would think)


the problem is there's no power supply to the thing other than the moving magent so it's hard to know how to put in a voltage to even see if there is any resonant tuning)


Hans Coler was the other one I was thinking of that works similarly

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Re: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2014, 03:45:00 AM »
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Offline dieter

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Re: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2014, 07:06:53 AM »
Skysabre,


just in case you won't make it work, here's a link to something that seems to work easily and convinced me more than anything else:





 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hr2C1vvvx4

But you really have to make shure your grid consumption is not negative, otherwise you may be visited by special inspectors, cause they may notice your use of reactive power, and they hate it.

It would be best to use the system based on your own AC generator, that may run on car batteries, that can be recharged.

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Re: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2014, 09:29:31 AM »
One man explain how made divice who consumig 100 W and output is 1-2 kilowats. It works on 50 herc 220 volts socket. But I not waranty, that here no error then he meashure. If anyone want, I can try explai how made this divice.

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Re: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2014, 09:29:31 AM »
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Re: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2014, 04:51:25 PM »
Dieter,
I thank you for the lead. I will try that out too, after a few more experiments on the Hendershot unit.

MenofFather,
Your ideas will be most welcome. It doesn't matter if there is no guarantee. If it can be done, and is affordable, then I will try it out.

Thanks to this community. Let us remember Thomas Edison's persistence!

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Re: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2014, 07:37:55 PM »
MenofFather,
Your ideas will be most welcome. It doesn't matter if there is no guarantee. If it can be done, and is affordable, then I will try it out.

Thanks to this community. Let us remember Thomas Edison's persistence!
Transformer is 3-5 kilowats. If they heat up, need it disasamble, and all paint with emal, lack and then maybe reglue, not use screw, then it makes it heat up, you can use string tubes, put in it bolts and after bolt put dialectric, to not conect diferent sides. First wound primary like in normal transformer. Then shield of aluminum, How I understand, shield is like shorted turn. Then secondary, then again shield of aliuminum foil or tape like shorted turn. In one transformer is two shields and in other. Capasitor must be in resonance. Then you find resonance it makes vibraite wery loud, then you find, let say, not 50 herc resonance but 150 herc resonance, then it vibrate not that laud. You need find 50 herc resonance, if socket is 50 herc. Here video, there he explaining everything in russian language. [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu2Rbjr80RI&feature=share[/size]
Good lock!

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Re: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???
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Re: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???
« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2014, 03:23:51 AM »
Skysabre,


I thought I got to let you know, Gyulasun just told me there may have been measurement errors in the project I linked to. But as far as I do know, there is nonetheless a certain potential in using caps to "go out of phase"  in order to draw "free" energy (with the power bill in mind)  8) .


MenofFather,


looks pretty scary, this circuit. But also rather simple. Do you plan to build one?


Regards


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Re: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???
« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2014, 01:00:09 PM »

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I thought I got to let you know, Gyulasun just told me there may have been measurement errors in the project I linked to. But as far as I do know, there is nonetheless a certain potential in using caps to "go out of phase"  in order to draw "free" energy (with the power bill in mind)  8) .
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Hello Dieter,

It is not just uncertainty that "there may have been measurement errors in the project you linked to", it is sure there was errors, gotoluc clearly described them, he did not simply accept the "armchair explanations".

Gotoluc just addressed this again to member Vince here: http://www.overunity.com/14443/quantum-energy-generator-qeg-open-sourced-by-hopegirl/msg398657/#msg398657 

Of course you have got the full right to question anything and convince yourself by doing many tests yourself, this is the best approach towards reality and this approach is okay to me, no problem,  all I can do is to wish you good luck.

Gyula

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Re: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???
« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2014, 01:00:09 PM »
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Re: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???
« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2014, 05:37:25 PM »

MenofFather,


looks pretty scary, this circuit. But also rather simple. Do you plan to build one?


Regards
I thinking about this divice, maybe in smallest version and on ferite and on hight frenquency. Because original version is very much cost and maybe dificult disasamle core and paint it to it not makes warm...

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Re: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???
« Reply #40 on: April 21, 2014, 03:13:54 AM »
MenofFather,


that's a good idea, to scale it down. If you try it I wish you good luck and much success.


Gyulasun,


let me get this straight, are you saying that all results in utilizing reactive power, done in experimental setups by Luc are nullified and reactive power cannot be utilized?


I am not talking about OU, just the question if you could use some energy before the current returns to the wattmeter in a 90° phase shift and would therefor not appear on the power bill?


Regards


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Re: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???
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Re: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???
« Reply #41 on: April 21, 2014, 05:25:36 AM »
What if we scale up the foxhole radio, and the output, instead of going to the headphone, goes to the transformer? What if we incorporate the concept of a foxhole radio into the Hendershot/Artoj circuit?

If any of you have some suggestions, let's start with the Artoj modification, and do some changes from there.

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Re: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???
« Reply #42 on: April 21, 2014, 04:05:11 PM »
I think such a radio is too weak.


The basket-like structure of the coil/Cap reminds me of a broadband radiation collector, used for high voltage collection/transformation. If the magnet is really the only input, then there must be really some weird amplification being performed. How about:
The magnet thingie generates a pulse of medium force, as you would expect it. This pulse goes into a coil. The flyback or bemf of the coil may jump over a sparkgap that is inside the basket like caps, and the entire spark radiation is absorbed by the capacitance, and now there may even an electron avalanche take place.
.Also think about the nails of the "basket-cap", being iron (?) must serve a very special purpose, in being part of a multi-core design.


You may add an input voltage, simulating what tbe magnet is supposedo do.


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Re: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???
« Reply #43 on: April 21, 2014, 07:53:17 PM »
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Gyulasun,

let me get this straight, are you saying that all results in utilizing reactive power, done in experimental setups by Luc are nullified and reactive power cannot be utilized?

I am not talking about OU, just the question if you could use some energy before the current returns to the wattmeter in a 90° phase shift and would therefor not appear on the power bill?
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Dieter,

No, I did not say or mean that.  What I wrote refers to that single particular setup Luc showed in that single video to which he commented the two errors,  and my above forum link to Luc's post refers also to that same video.  No more and no less.

On your second question: yes, one can use some tricks  to "fool" the utility meter (wattmeter) that includes a 90°phase shift so that his or her power bill does not increase significantly or stays the same etc:  I do not consider such tricks as a source to "free" energy, although it may be free for a tricky user.

Gyula

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Re: Did someone tried to replicate a Hendershot Generator ???
« Reply #44 on: April 22, 2014, 12:04:14 AM »
Gyulasun,


ok, thanks for making this clear. Tricking the power company is not OU, but at least it is something.


I am still not shure if there is any real energy dissipation in utilizing pure reactive power. Shure it must require some energy to provide the grid AC voltage and current, but has the utilization of reactive power any impact on it?


Regards


 

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