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RunningBare

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #525 on: September 30, 2007, 08:42:39 PM »
The point is, how much energy was the 120v ac motor taking?


lol, im sorry. the 120v ac motor was driving the alternator, but no battery was hooked to the alternator or the fuel cell at any time, nor any other kind of power supplie.

the water fuel cell is powering  the alternator, the alternator is rerouting the generated electricity back to the water fuel cell threw the mosfet.

if it helps, i could do it without the use of any battery, not needing the small 9 volt battery.

Spewing

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #526 on: September 30, 2007, 08:55:26 PM »
thats a good question. probably about the same as stanley meyers. im not measuring the driver motor.

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #527 on: September 30, 2007, 09:04:30 PM »
The equinox video stated 0.5amps, so the power would be 120x0.5=60 watts

thats a good question. probably about the same as stanley meyers. im not measuring the driver motor.

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #528 on: September 30, 2007, 10:57:54 PM »
The equinox video stated 0.5amps, so the power would be 120x0.5=60 watts

thats a good question. probably about the same as stanley meyers. im not measuring the driver motor.

i was unaware that there was a motor ac or dc of that size that ran on 0.5 amps as big is the one in the video. i have searched and came up with a paper shreader motor which was 2.0 amps, and some other kinda motor that is 0.5 amps, but none of them would even turn the alternator under no load.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-0A-AC-Motor-in-Paper-Shredder-2-amp-115v-120v-60Hz_W0QQitemZ280156654780QQihZ018QQcategoryZ71400QQcmdZViewItem


http://www.electronicsurplus.com/commerce/catalog/product.jsp?product_id=71004

if you do happen to find a motor about the size stanley was using in his video that runs on 0.5 amps please let me know. i'm sure if i could find one of those i would completely forget about hydrogen and start looking for these motors so i could really create something overunity.

i would almost sell my car to see a motor that size run on 0.5 amps just free spinning. 

RunningBare

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #529 on: September 30, 2007, 11:05:50 PM »
Now you get the picture ;-)

The Lawton circuit may only consume milliamps, but the drive motor is going to draw amps, there is no 0,5amp 120volt motor that would turn an alternator without burning out.


i was unaware that there was a motor ac or dc of that size that ran on 0.5 amps as big is the one in the video. i have searched and came up with a paper shreader motor which was 2.0 amps, and some other kinda motor that is 0.5 amps, but none of them would even turn the alternator under no load.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-0A-AC-Motor-in-Paper-Shredder-2-amp-115v-120v-60Hz_W0QQitemZ280156654780QQihZ018QQcategoryZ71400QQcmdZViewItem


http://www.electronicsurplus.com/commerce/catalog/product.jsp?product_id=71004

if you do happen to find a motor about the size stanley was using in his video that runs on 0.5 amps please let me know. i'm sure if i could find one of those i would completely forget about hydrogen and start looking for these motors so i could really create something overunity.

i would almost sell my car to see a motor that size run on 0.5 amps just free spinning. 

Spewing

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #530 on: September 30, 2007, 11:11:54 PM »
lol, you silly man, lawd. you tickled me funny bone.

i have this in my pdf if you can cifer it out...

TheNOP

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #531 on: September 30, 2007, 11:35:42 PM »
Peter...

What if someone could strip away all the bullshit and confusion?  Would that be useful?  Would that help you be able to decide what works and what is someone's delusions?  You can tell where science is going on because theories are clearly stated, tests are devised to verify or break them and myths are crushed and tossed out.  Real science uses brutally honest methods to converge on real solutions.

I don't proclaim to know how to do this; never have.  Many here say they have great insights on how it should work, yet they cannot communicate it nor build it.  The myths and jargonistic hoo ha are never challenged.  Its a mutual admiration society based on who can out-bullshit the other.  Nobody produces successful replications here.  It seems like you are just now figuring that out!

All I'm doing is pointing out the bullshit; some of it anyway.  If you follow every thread here that claims success at anything, you will find that there is never a definition of what success is, no agreement on how to achieve it, forty three theories on how it works, nine guys claiming guru status and some of the most "creative" measurement techniques ever devised to avoid making actual straightforward measurements.  The claims and reported claims and stories of intrigue are endless.  The myths myriad.

If you stand up and shout "bullshit", the stonethrowers come out.  It's like a religion; a cult.  In the end (and there is no end...) each joker who claims success ends up getting into a hissy fit and withdrawing his earth-shattering info or giving some story about MIB hovering over him in a black helicopter and crawls off into the woodwork. 

Nobody communicates anything that ends up converging on a solution.  It's a giant circle-jerk club.

Good luck, my friend.  Meanwhile, I'd suggest building or buying an electric car and putting up wind or solar.  Waiting to run your car on water based on work done by these open-source engineer dudes around here is going to mean waiting forever and building a million projects that don't work.

HissyfitNihilism
Now, that is a usefull post.
I mean, a post that i can clearly understand the faqs.
It also made me re-realise that most web sites/forum are not the right places to learn stuff.
That is sad, but truth.

Thanks for openning my eyes.

RunningBare

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #532 on: October 01, 2007, 12:03:07 AM »
The real truth comes from doing it yourself, I do not take the word of skeptics or believers, skeptics are quite easy to spot so easily ignored, some "so called" believers on the other hand are not easy to spot, their purpose is to try and get you to waste your time, their motives could be anything, but I would say they are just malicious pranksters.
While as a group we help each other out, each and every individual has a responcibilty to find out for themselves, I take this phylosiphy because if I screw up then I can only blame myself.

Now, that is a usefull post.
I mean, a post that i can clearly understand the faqs.
It also made me re-realise that most web sites/forum are not the right places to learn stuff.
That is sad, but truth.

Thanks for openning my eyes.

hartiberlin

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #533 on: October 01, 2007, 12:27:06 AM »
here you go

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jewg71L2uig

@Spewing

so how many Watts of power did your drive motor draw
in this video ?

Many thanks.

Spewing

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #534 on: October 01, 2007, 12:59:19 AM »
here you go

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jewg71L2uig

@Spewing

so how many Watts of power did your drive motor draw
in this video ?

Many thanks.

i think it has a rating of 9 amps labeled on the side. i didn't measure it because i dont have that kinda amp meter. but you know it's gotta be using 9 amps if it is on the side of the motor.

you gonna use amps or some kinda energy to turn it, theres no getting outta it.

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #535 on: October 01, 2007, 01:19:17 AM »
Okay, so no overunity yet,
but 9 amps x 120 Volts from the grid, right ?

TheNOP

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #536 on: October 01, 2007, 01:55:42 AM »
@ RunningBare

Not that i don't beleive in the WFC anymore.
I will still try to replicate it, learning more stuff on the road.

But let face it, look at this forum, globaly.
His point of view might not be far from the reality.
It look like there are more ignorant peoples, like me, trying to replicate than knowledgable ones.
When asked for specific data, they can't give for X reasons.
How do they know what they are claiming is real then ?

Don't get me wrong, there are still some good stuff being posted.
But trying to split the faqs from myths can get pretty hard sometime for someone with less knowledge in that art.




Got to go to the library monday.
Guess what books i will borrow.  :D

Pirate88179

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #537 on: October 01, 2007, 02:30:09 AM »

Quote
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jewg71L2uig

I just watched the video listed here.  Is he claiming that he is running the ac motor that powers the alternator on just the 9v battery?  I watched it twice and I think that is what was said.  The gas produced looked promissing.

Bill

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #538 on: October 01, 2007, 03:30:51 AM »
Finally got the concept of Coil Orientation, for VIC, as per Stan Meyer's page 7-17 figure 7-1, and the Correct Connections and to WFC.
Hope this helps.

Spewing

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #539 on: October 01, 2007, 04:12:22 AM »
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3079.0;attach=12667;image

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3079.0;attach=12668;image

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3079.0;attach=12669;image

No the small 9 volt battery was not running the alternator. Running bare brought to my attention that stanley was getting overunity because the AC Driver motor was running on .5 amps. i told him if you care to scroll up that it was impossable. he was proving a point. where does this end?

please read my pdf again and again.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3079.0;attach=13201
Thanks, Hydro