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Author Topic: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power  (Read 826074 times)

atlantex

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #420 on: September 22, 2007, 05:41:35 PM »
Hello,

here is a quickshot of the gas production.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YJSJ1xZNYw

I cant get a stable amp value, because its jumping between 0.20 - 0.46 A at 12 V.

Please don't laugh about the coils but after I couldn't find any detailed picture about these parts, I had to start with a own "design" ;-)


atlantex

RunningBare

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #421 on: September 22, 2007, 06:13:18 PM »
Good work atlantex, whats the vertical core?, it looks like iron in the picture.

Hello,

here is a quickshot of the gas production.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YJSJ1xZNYw

I cant get a stable amp value, because its jumping between 0.20 - 0.46 A at 12 V.

Please don't laugh about the coils but after I couldn't find any detailed picture about these parts, I had to start with a own "design" ;-)


atlantex

Gheller J

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #422 on: September 22, 2007, 06:16:04 PM »
Runningbare>>>>>

Dat aint mine mate!! take a closer look @ d pic u'll know. I jus posted a frwrded mail  4  som1. No names pl shouldnt show up on searches for safety.


Gh. J.

RunningBare

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #423 on: September 22, 2007, 06:26:56 PM »
DOH!

Just looked more closely at the wiring, a bit of a giveaway, including the huge name in big red letters!  :o

Runningbare>>>>>

Dat aint mine mate!! take a closer look @ d pic u'll know. I jus posted a frwrded mail  4  som1. No names pl shouldnt show up on searches for safety.


Gh. J.

atlantex

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #424 on: September 22, 2007, 06:31:20 PM »
Hi,

Quote
whats the vertical core?, it looks like iron in the picture.

it's also a ferrit core, this one with the 0.7 mm copper wire, the other coil is made from high frequency copper wire, it was just a thought...


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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #425 on: September 23, 2007, 09:07:15 AM »
good morning,

after the circuit seems to work, I'll start now with the conditioning process.



@Stefan

do you know a people who would like to sponsor such a project?


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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #426 on: September 23, 2007, 12:39:43 PM »

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dutchy1966

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #427 on: September 23, 2007, 02:39:28 PM »
Hi all,

I thought I might as well put up a few pics of the meyer/lawton/ravi pulse generator replication. Hopefully I get this finished today.
Tomorrow I'm gonna pick up some 316L tubes and can start building the cell.

All in all, another replication on its way.... 

regards,

Robert

Prophmaji

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #428 on: September 24, 2007, 12:25:33 AM »
It never hurts to rember that hydrogen is an alkali metal..and that H20 could sort of be considered to be it's 'oxidized state'

RunningBare

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #429 on: September 24, 2007, 02:51:22 AM »
Yup, the way we were taught it, "water is ash", an already burnt substance.


It never hurts to rember that hydrogen is an alkali metal..and that H20 could sort of be considered to be it's 'oxidized state'

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #430 on: September 24, 2007, 04:51:36 AM »
Hi,

I will build a replication of the WFC of Stanley Meyer in the next 2 weeks.

I am waiting for my tube (24 feet long 304L ss, one 0,75" and one 1") and will build the circuit of the updated D14.PDF

Can someone told me if there is a better circuit ?  Also what is the best choke?

I do a lot of research this time and I have found on the website of Jean-Louis Naudin (a very intersting site about free energy) an experiment that is called :

THE SOLITON PULSES GENERATOR EXPERIMENT

This is the link : http://jlnlabs.imars.com/spgen/index.htm

In this web page we saw the "multiple layers Caduceus wound Coil" this coil seems to produce a lot of power.

Do you think we can use it as a choke for the d14 circuit?

Also I have send 2 days ago in this topic a circuit plan (in german) for a replication of WFC.

Have you see it and what you think of it? good or not?

Thank's

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #431 on: September 24, 2007, 07:27:34 AM »
To all, it is a pulse! enough of this ??? it's only a pulse.

Right From the Patent, I'm posting this since everyone seems to be missing it!

When water molecules are exposed to voltage at a restricted current, water takes on an electrical charge.

When a charge is applied to a capacitor, the electrical charge of the capacitor equals the applied voltage charge; in a water capacitor, the dielectric property of water resists the flow of amps in the circuit, and the water molecule itself, because it has polarity fields formed by the relationship of hydrogen and oxygen in the covalent bond, and intrinsic dielectric property, becomes part of the electrical circuit, analogous to a "microcapacitor" within the capacitor defined by the plates.

THE VIC IS FORMED!

The primary coil of the toroid is subject to a 50% duty cycle pulse. The toroidal pulsing coil provides a voltage step-up from the pulse generator in excess of five times, although the relative amount of step-up is determined by preselected criteria for a particular application. As the stepped-up pulse enters first inductor (formed from 100 turns of 24 gauge wire 1 inch in diameter), an electromagnetic field is formed around the inductor, voltage is switched off when the pulse ends, and the field collapses and produces another pulse of the same polarity i.e., another positive pulse is formed where the 50% duty cycle was terminated. Thus, a double pulse frequency is produced; however, in pulse train of unipolar pulses, there is a brief time when pulses are not present.

By being so subjected to electrical pulses in the circuit of FIG. 1, water confined in the volume that includes the capacitor plates takes on an electrical charge that is increased by a step charging phenomenon occurring in the water capacitor. Voltage continually increases (to about 1000 volts and more) and the water molecules starts to elongate.

The pulse train is then switched off; the voltage across the water capacitor drops to the amount of the charge that the water molecules have taken on, i.e., voltage is maintained across the charged capacitor. The pulse train is the reapplied.

Because a voltage potential applied to a capacitor can perform work, the higher the voltage the higher the voltage potential, the more work is performed by a given capacitor. In an optimum capacitor that is wholly non-conductive, zero (0) current flow will occur across the capacitor.

In the process, the electrical resonance may be reached at all levels of voltage potential. The overall circuit is characterized as a "resonant charging choke" circuit which is an inductor in series with a capacitor that produces a resonant circuit. [SAMS Modern Dictionary of Electronics, Rudolf Garff, copyright 1984, Howard W. Sams & Co. (Indianapolis, Ind.), page 859.]

Such a resonant charging choke is on each side of the capacitor. In the circuit, the diode acts as a switch that allows the magnetic field produced in the inductor to collapse, thereby doubling the pulse frequency and  preventing the capacitor from discharging. In this manner a continuous voltage is produced across the capacitor plates in the water bath; and the capacitor does not discharge. The water molecules are thus subjected to a continuously charged field  until the breakdown of the covalent bond occurs.

In an example of the circuit of FIG. 1 (in which other circuit element specifications are provided above), two concentric cylinders 4 inches long formed the water capacitor of the fuel cell in the volume of water. The outside cylinder was 0.75 inch in outside diameter; the inner cylinder was 0.5 inch in outside diameter.

Spacing from the outside of the inner cylinder to the  inner surface of the outside cylinder was 0.0625 inch. Resonance in the circuit was achieved at a 26 volt applied pulse to the primary coil of the toroid at 0 KHz, and  the water molecules disassociated into elemental hydrogen and oxygen and the gas released from the fuel cell comprised a mixture of hydrogen, oxygen from the water molecule, and gases formerly dissolved in the water such as the atmospheric gases or oxygen, nitrogen, and argon.

In achieving resonance in any circuit, as the pulse frequency is adjusted, the flow of amps is minimized and the voltage is maximized to a peak. Calculation of the resonance frequency of an overall circuit is determined by known means; different cavities have a different frequency of  resonance dependant on parameters of the water dielectric, plate size, configuration and distance, circuit inductors, and the like. Control of the production of  fuel gas is determined by variation of the period of time between a train of pulses, pulse amplitude and capacitor plate size and configuration, with corresponding value adjustments to other circuit components.

The wiper arm on the second conductor tunes the circuit and accommodates to contaminants in water so that the charge is always applied to the capacitor. The voltage applied determines the rate of breakdown of the molecule into its atomic components. As water in the cell is consumed, it is replaced by any appropriate means or control system.

Variations of the process and apparatus may be evident to those skilled in the art.

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #432 on: September 24, 2007, 08:45:34 AM »
Wow, great video Leeroy, thank you for posting the link.

Bill

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #433 on: September 24, 2007, 12:25:19 PM »
Just a little oops :'(
Hooked up djtecks black box to tubes and had it running for an hour or so and playing with all the knobs and produced some gas and made explosions ( WOW ) just to check it was hoho all seemed well until it stopped working turns out l fried the mosfet, found a local bloke ( godsend ) and it will be fixed tomoz so back to conditioning.

Now what l did was hook it up to a battery charger without the battery. Big nono apparently battery chargers produce big spikes but if you run it thru battery it evens these out and protects the circuit.

l realise most people on this site probably know this but just in case theres somebody as uneducated in sophisticated ( or not ) electronic devices as myself they may learn from my inexperience and thats what its all about, learning and sharing

Also djtechs black box works as promised and it aint expensive, thanks mate

Regards

Peter


leeroyjenkinsii

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #434 on: September 25, 2007, 12:22:46 AM »
Thanks a lot Peter from Oz for that tip.  I did not know that.  You're right, sharing helps us small fish a lot.  I know there are a lot of big fish here with lots of advanced knowledge and understanding, but that doesn't mean us small fish can't play too. Afterall, if you're too afraid to admit what you don't know, you'll only slow your progress learning and not help the 100s of other Monday morning quarterbacks.