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Author Topic: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power  (Read 785630 times)

Offline Duranza

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #285 on: September 14, 2007, 09:17:25 PM »
Oh WoW! that looks great... Does it include the BUZ350 with it? or the replacement?

Offline djctek

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #286 on: September 14, 2007, 09:31:18 PM »
It uses a Fairchild Semiconductor 200V 28A N channel mosfet part #FQP32N20C. The BUZ350 is an obsolete part that has not been in production for years and are nearly impossible to find. This is a beefier version compatible mosfet. the BUZ350 is rated for 20A.

Glad you guys like the design!

Offline RunningBare

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #287 on: September 14, 2007, 10:29:12 PM »
Virtually any n channel mosfet will do the job so long as can handle a drain current of a couple of amps, this assumes you do not want to draw more than a couple of amps of course.

Ravi's replication draws 0.5 amps, a mosfet with a drain current capability of 2 amps would be sufficient.

But what you really have to take into account is the voltage the mosfet can handle because of the back emf from the coils, certainly make sure your mosfet can handle more than 100 volts.

This is the mosfet I use and despite it's Vdss being only 60 volts, it works quite nicely in my setup...
http://www.irf.com/product-info/datasheets/data/irfz48v.pdf

Offline djctek

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #288 on: September 14, 2007, 11:21:03 PM »
Well said RunningBare, I think a lot of people over stress on the need for the BUZ350, Probably because the name sticks in your head and is easy to remember, There is nothing special about it compared to any other 200v N channel mosfet.

Offline chortly

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #289 on: September 14, 2007, 11:50:27 PM »
Hi all.

i stumbled across this site a few days ago via youtube, and i must say, this is some pretty amazing stuff. i'd like to build a replication, but im not sure about a few things.

are all the 555 timer chips interchangeable, or is the NE555 imperative to use?
is the alternator in the d14 setup used to power the rig? What is its purpose? (i have a small engine i may want to play with)
is the input power controlled or just let the rig pull what it needs? i don't want to overpower while conditioning tubes.

i've built a number of pc's, but nothing like this. any help is most appreciated.

Offline Duranza

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #290 on: September 15, 2007, 12:44:22 AM »
Hi all.

i stumbled across this site a few days ago via youtube, and i must say, this is some pretty amazing stuff. i'd like to build a replication, but im not sure about a few things.

are all the 555 timer chips interchangeable, or is the NE555 imperative to use?
is the alternator in the d14 setup used to power the rig? What is its purpose? (i have a small engine i may want to play with)
is the input power controlled or just let the rig pull what it needs? i don't want to overpower while conditioning tubes.

i've built a number of pc's, but nothing like this. any help is most appreciated.

any 555 chip will do. the alternator is not necesary as you can use a battery or charger to power the circuit.

Offline chortly

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #291 on: September 15, 2007, 12:49:17 AM »
ty much!

Offline RunningBare

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #292 on: September 15, 2007, 01:03:24 AM »
I think the problem is with some folk seeing the mosfet as being part of the magic, when in fact the only true critical components are the coils and tubes, the rest is generic electronics, mosfets have extremely low gate current, but it would be possible to use a Darlington bipolar transistor in it's place so long as it has a fast switching time, as for the 555 timer circuitry, thats just convenience, you can provide a square wave at particular frequencies from a number of different sources.


Well said RunningBare, I think a lot of people over stress on the need for the BUZ350, Probably because the name sticks in your head and is easy to remember, There is nothing special about it compared to any other 200v N channel mosfet.

Offline Big-bubbles

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #293 on: September 15, 2007, 02:30:33 AM »
I do think the mosfet might matter....At least as far as the drain source diode goes.
I think your diode in the d-14   circuit needs to be faster than the mosfet blocking diode  so the back emf pulse will stay in the loop and not go to ground.
The buz-350 has a reverse recovery time of 180 ns and the 32n20c has a reverse recovery time of 265 ns witch is slower. This should work fine in this circuit.  Also, the 32n20 has half of the internal resistance .06 ohm so it should run even cooler than the buz-350..Looks like a good choice and it is cheap. Most ultra high speed diodes have a 50ns on time or less witch should work well in the d-14 circuit. The diode could somewhat effect the tuning of this circuit. :D
This is just my opinion, I could be wrong!  I will know soon after new my tubes get here.

Offline RunningBare

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #294 on: September 15, 2007, 03:11:02 AM »
The back EMF from a coil of 100 turns on a ferrite core would be in microseconds to milliseconds, a delay of 180 ns would be insignificant.


I do think the mosfet might matter....At least as far as the drain source diode goes.
I think your diode in the d-14   circuit needs to be faster than the mosfet blocking diode  so the back emf pulse will stay in the loop and not go to ground.
The buz-350 has a reverse recovery time of 180 ns and the 32n20c has a reverse recovery time of 265 ns witch is slower. This should work fine in this circuit.  Also, the 32n20 has half of the internal resistance .06 ohm so it should run even cooler than the buz-350..Looks like a good choice and it is cheap. Most ultra high speed diodes have a 50ns on time or less witch should work well in the d-14 circuit. The diode could somewhat effect the tuning of this circuit. :D
This is just my opinion, I could be wrong!  I will know soon after new my tubes get here.

Offline esaruoho

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #295 on: September 15, 2007, 05:10:02 AM »
(http://www.frontiernet.net/~djctek/back.jpg)
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(http://www.frontiernet.net/~djctek/inside.jpg)
(http://www.frontiernet.net/~djctek/kit.jpg)

this isnt spam. this is encouragement. well done. they look splendid.

Offline esaruoho

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #296 on: September 15, 2007, 05:15:57 AM »
message from ravi raju (via panacea-bocaf - which is one direction to send info to, anonymously or with your name):

"The main reason why I wanted to free source this process was to be used for vehicles as this unit cannot / would not be allowed to be sold commercially....as it can give you atleast 50% gain in mileage!....this would reduce the world automobile pollution problem drastically.....power generation through an ICE is not that feasible due to the high wear pertaining to automobile engines when used continuously for months together....as per my calculations the engine needs a re-bore every two months if used continuously!!....so the only viable alternative is to use in small Turbines. For backup gensets IC Engines could be OK.

When connecting to an ICE there are a lot of minor to major modifications and tuneups need to be done depending on the engine type and year of make. Once

Ask people on the forum to follow the Conditioning procedure that I gave as you get very uneven coat formation on the surface if you use High Amps for long periods....and when you go above 3 Amps theres a possibility of the coating flaking off...the bonding between layers would not be that strong....these layers form one over the other after every cycle of conditioning.......the small time high Amp conditioning gives you an uneven coat and the long time low Amp conditioning evens out this....more or less. The longer you use Low Amp conditioning the better the end outputs!

DONOT CONDITION ON A SINGLE HIGH AMP VALUE FOR LONG TIME.

You could end up blocking the space in between the tubes and you'll have to dismantle the pipes and start all over again. We dont yet know exactly as to what the coating comprises of! As there are some High Voltage discharges (Probably....reason...glow in the dark) they could be some  very exotic alloy compositions formed....as the temperatures for a fraction of a second at the point of discharge go into thousands of degrees C.

You could use my name and post this info on overunity.com....maybe then people would take the procedure seriously.

Offline trol

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #297 on: September 15, 2007, 06:07:25 AM »
Sugerencia:
Considerando que Stanley, al momento de patentar su ?invento? necesit? ser lo suficientemente certero como para incluir en su patente aspectos que resultaran indiscutibles, pues de otra forma se invalida su derecho, recomiendo remitirse a  su trabajo; esto es , olvidarse del ?condicionamiento? y enfocar el esfuerzo en determinar la capacitancia e inductancia del circuito secundario. A partir de ello, y de la frecuencia natural de los cilindros (que deben ser la misma), hacer funcionar el sistema; creo que por ah? va la cosa.
Los intereses que hay tras la masificaci?n de un proyecto que implique obtener un output superior a un input son tan grandes, que no me llamar?a la atenci?n que ?ravy? estuviera al servicio de los petroleros.
Pi?nsenlo, y prueben conforme a lo descrito en la patente de Stanley
 

Offline leeroyjenkinsii

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #298 on: September 15, 2007, 06:08:44 AM »
I bought the above device.  I know next to nothing about electronics.  I am basically a dummy with a credit card...lmao.  Hopefully I can learn some of this stuff though.  I'll let you guys know my experience with the device outside of my own personal idiot factor.

Is there a way to separate the HHO into H and 0 and then use just the H in a fuel cell?  I wonder if by doing that you could achieve immediate overunity without an engine?

Offline peter from oz

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Re: Stanley Meyer replication with low input power
« Reply #299 on: September 15, 2007, 06:41:48 AM »
Hello All, better to ask a silly question than make a silly mistake

Assembling tubes -as per D14- outer tubes welded to plate and singlely(?) wired up therefor arent they all live together because they are all welded together and so could'nt l have one connection or ss band around pipes all joined thus not needing to get RE annealed because of no heat stress in welding. Also the extra pipe hanging out of the inner pipe could it not be drilled and tapped for neg connection, thus not needing welding and Re annealing of pipes?
A bit like the connection on this site

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx2uEsbTt8Y

Even if they still need to be individual wires (for heat dissipation or current or?) could they not be individually attatched at point of contact on ss band? Seems a way to avoid some unnessesary steps or a bit easier in construction.

Also just got my 316L with 1mm gap alround and l found some useless zip ties (not strong enough if you put too much pressure on ) but are perfect to slide down as spacers with a little knob on top so you dont lose them down the pipe.

What else - cheap pipe cutter from Hardware cuts the tube nicely, take it easy cause there only meant for copper, no need for heat to cut so no need for RE annealing, l presume

Am also looking at above complete BLACK BOX

enough enough

Regards

peter