Who cares if people want to be private about their work?  It's their loss.  They can take all the problems on themeselves then.  I'm not looking to rely on anybody else, and neither should any of you.  Understand the device by experimenting yourself, instead of following others.  Then you will have an understanding that is ten times that than if you just blindly copy.  Sorry that I got off track a little.

"overunity" is a metter of perspective and Marco never claimed that it was.

I don't see how that statement can be true.

Either a system is overunity or it isn't. I think Marco knows the difference.

@Marco, would you mind chiming in here and clearing the air?

Albeit a bad decision, both on his and Dave's part to do these faked demonstrations, the intention was to foster inspiration in the group.

Don't waste your time with this unless you want to explore wireless power transmission. If Marco had something overunity, he probably would have said so by now.

Marco, where are you my friend? 

Marco,

Play that card, if you must...

@BEP,

Nice to see you are still here. Your inputs are appreciated.

Regards,
Darren

 

The experiments i did in the o'l days were far from overunity..
in fact it did consume alot of power to make it to what it was.

Marco.

@Grumpy

This settles it for me.

Quote from: -[marco]- on August 17, 2007, 07:05:42 PM

Darren no offence,
The experiments i did in the o'l days were far from overunity..
in fact it did consume alot of power to make it to what it was.

Good luck on the tube experiment ,i hope you will see the kicks.
i had switched in a couple of 100k pots and some 30k solid resistors.

Marco.

Thanks Marco.

I was sure you mentioned that you "smoothed out" the output, so I assumed you used a capacitor. Also, your output did not look rectified, so again I assumed there was some filtering being applied.

Please clarify so I can try to duplicate the kicks you had there. I want to be as accurate as possible to your setup.

Regards,
Darren

Hi Darren,
This is simply explained,
The high voltage from the plate transformer is connected to the heater transformer.
but it is only connected to one end of the winding,therefore it is not a closed circuit.
That was a bit confusing to me and as i remember correctly i took a 100kpot in series with a 30k resistor in series between the high voltage output of the tube and the scope.
i was hoping to scale the voltage down and as you know at that point i was not familiar with the shunt circuit you pointed out to me.
Anyway ,the signal was too large to fit the screen of the scope so i decided to disconnect the ground wire.
Beautiful Kicks appeard and i remember thinking this was a bit of a new area to me because i am used to work with the ancient "closed loop"
Then i thought of Steven mentioning "what changes at what speed/frequency" and something told me this had to do with high voltage charging up only one terminal like in a car ignition coil.
So based on that i am currently replicating the high frequency flame discharge in a way described in an 1916 old book and that is always intresting and fun to play with.
such a discharge can as described only be produced by a quenched spark gap meaning many capacitor discharges per second compared to the normal type spark gap.
This lead me to a wire wrapped around another wire acting like it was a quenched spark gap itself, and it did produce a spark i have never seen before, like the spark of a low fequency high power transformer.

Marco.