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Author Topic: Open letter to inventors (destination: underground)  (Read 43334 times)

lancaIV

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Re: Open letter to inventors (destination: underground)
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2007, 10:01:31 PM »
Have your drinks too much PCB intus ?
Now,after SCRAPIE/BSE(mad-cow-syndrome) mental-toroids-researcher-disease ?
Do you all need more vacation or a time out ?

Or shall this be a new thread: There can only exist one WAR-LORD of the TPU ?
Are you selling author right for this soap ?It is really "kindisch" !
 
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Re: Open letter to inventors (destination: underground)
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2007, 10:09:59 PM »
 ;D

yes grumpy it is the right ring why do you think my focous was so strong with it some time ago

it is the ring

it has been confirmed
altho turbo did not build it correctly in his first atempt but tell  him cuz he does not know it!!!!!

the biggest key to this hole project is ottos test you can build any way you want or shape it will act the same

look at the poast i put in magas if you think those wards are mine you are wrong the pm i posted tells much moe than you all thinkl!!!!

it tells it is a reactor why? beacuse the ring is the mag amp!!! the satureatable reactor  the byproduct is an unexaustable fuel source plus electricty

herd of bomb gas? hummm powerful stuff eh turbo but i can tell you that there is only a hand ful of people that know it is a fuel cell as well

until yesterday when  posted it humm pvc casing from the wires and all the other shit in the tpu breaking down make a useable fuel i will use to power my turbine and yes it will for sure be the fastest spinning thing on earth!!! i beleave right now it already is the fastest on earth

so you all see my foucous here it is much more than the tpu it is the fuel cell aswell

think as you all want but i will continue my quest for the simplest form of tpu 


turbo throw the transmitter and reciever in the same unit!! perhaps you will get some where

isteam!!

Grumpy

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Re: Open letter to inventors (destination: underground)
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2007, 10:20:40 PM »
Marco's sequencer using 3x 555's:

(was something like this, have not found his post yet)

http://www.play-hookey.com/digital/timer_555_sequencer.html

innovation_station

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Re: Open letter to inventors (destination: underground)
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2007, 10:30:22 PM »
 ;)

ok you all if you want answers do this read gk's work read moab's work if you want more there many more just read

1 more think who is missing why have they not written any more why are they not still questioning why bcause


think about it

lol

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Re: Open letter to inventors (destination: underground)
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2007, 10:44:38 PM »
Marco's sequencer using 3x 555's:

(was something like this, have not found his post yet)

http://www.play-hookey.com/digital/timer_555_sequencer.html

Hi Grumpy,
That sequencer was no good, it did not allow the second and third coil to fire harmonically related....it is usable with an add on...IE one at a time where it should be one-one two-two^5 times three-three^7 times etc..
NO...NO...USE TUBES!!

i also reply'd to your post about reducing our dependency on oil.

It got lost in the struggle, i guess.

Marco.

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Re: Open letter to inventors (destination: underground)
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2007, 11:21:39 PM »

you speek as tho your ring works lol


It did work.   Don't believe that "MT powered it" stuff. 

If the MT powered it, why did it get so hot and why would it need a battery for an oscillator?

Why is Marco still working with over-wraps that run the entire circumference rather than bunched segments?

Why is all that still on the forum and not deleted?

Hmm.  Now where did he post the sequencer circuit?

What?

Could you please elaborate on the above questions?

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Re: Open letter to inventors (destination: underground)
« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2007, 11:23:18 PM »
Marco,

do you mean 1 pulse to the first coil, then 5 pulses to the second coil, then 7 pulses to the third coil?

or

base freq to first coil, 5th harmonic to second coil, and 7th harmonic to third coil?

or

something else entirely?

EDIT (for ZPE):

Turbo's ring did not use power from a magnifying transmitter.  Somehow everyone thinks it did.

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Re: Open letter to inventors (destination: underground)
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2007, 11:34:42 PM »
Well,

Marco has made dozen's of coils. If you are referring to the one that he demonstrated as "turbo", then I believe Marco should clear the air on this, although I thought he had done so already...and that was that it was powered via a MT type setup. It was the work of someone else doing similar work to Tesla.

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Re: Open letter to inventors (destination: underground)
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2007, 11:43:35 PM »
If it was powered from the MT:

Why was it so hot?

Why the need for a battery (he stated it was for the oscillator) since the MT transfers power?

Why the need for an oscillator, when an MT reciever is a tuned circuit that will oscillate with the MT?

I could go on an on, but the point is that Marco had usable power coming out of that ring.

Now everyone can chase the proverbial golden goose or they can do something...

innovation_station

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Re: Open letter to inventors (destination: underground)
« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2007, 11:56:48 PM »
yea marco clear it up

you talk of my confusion well how about yours and all the time spent on your work and zero insight from you if it was a fake say so for real if it worked why did you not help the rest of us out here

i think right from the start it shows just how much of a man you are not!! your actions in the begining reflect our opininos of you at the end

so clear it up now so it can be figured out or put aside to make room for other thoughts and future progress


is

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Re: Open letter to inventors (destination: underground)
« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2007, 12:41:36 AM »
The work Marco replicated was that of Prof Meyl. Specifically, it was documentation from the "Experimenter kit for the transmission of electrical scalar waves".

I have no specific answers to your questions but I will say that IF Marco had something that exhibited overunity, why do you think he would still be doing TPU research?

The wireless transmission of power from A to B is not the same as achieving overunity. His power out was likely the same or less than his power in.

And why can't he have heat developing in either A or B?

innovation_station

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Re: Open letter to inventors (destination: underground)
« Reply #41 on: August 17, 2007, 01:01:05 AM »
yes but i beleave it was not a closed loop


so how could it ever be overunity
close the loop use the kickback to fire coils there you will have overunity!!!!!!

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Re: Open letter to inventors (destination: underground)
« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2007, 01:21:46 AM »
"overunity" is a metter of perspective and Marco never claimed that it was.

Marco lit a 100w bulb (220v ?) with a 9v battery.  He said that the 9v battery was necessary for the oscillator and that the ring got very hot.  You do not need the circuitry that he showed to recieve from a MT.

I recall at the time that it was initially posted that 10,000 Maniacs attacked "Turbo" claiming he faked it and a bunch a crap slinging ensued, then Harti identified Turbo as Marco, Marco got pissed, then their was the MT thing, more crap slinging, then the Sherlock Holmes story, yada yada.

Bottom line, Marco doesn't owe anyone $#!+

I think he has been working out several issues with this, such as the heat, interaction with other devices, and stuff like that.  Some people want to understand things more fully before they share what they have found and this is quite normal.  You seek to verify your assumptions and theories so that you are certain of your claims.

For those interested, there was a lot of initial detective work to attempt to determine the circuit used.  This is all still posted on the Turbo thread.  It was determined that the core was wound bifilar - as in folded over in the middle.  Clockwise as I recall, but this may be wrong - see the thread.  Might work better CCW. 

Bifilar folded, CW direction: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1761.msg19041.html#msg19041

You can surmise that the circuit fires the windings sequentially.  I suggest anyone replicating start with this and a re-read of the Turbo thread.

EDIT:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1761.0.html

I would guess it oscillates in the Khz range judging by the size of the caps.  He could be switch the 9vdc across the mosfets as I do not see much that would increase the voltage, but don't think it would hurt to do so.

EDIT-2:
more disection and speculation - probably not correct circuit (as far as I know, Marco has never discussed the circuit)
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1761.msg19343.html#msg19343
« Last Edit: August 17, 2007, 01:49:31 AM by Grumpy »

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Re: Open letter to inventors (destination: underground)
« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2007, 01:46:02 AM »
thank you grumpy


i made improvements to his coil it is  the 1 i just reacently posted in the lotr thred i put 2 coils of steel wire on the pancake top and bottom  b4 i wound over it with 2 copper wires and 1 steel wire this has been posted a wile ago aswell

now gk said those are the remifactions that top this entire project

it is the collector for out put in the tpu

i have said this a long time ago

this has been confirmed
i have a pm that states this
i have asked the writer of the pm if i could post it he has not replied but i said in the pm i sent that i will post regardless of his reply but i will not tell who it was that sent this msg


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Re: Open letter to inventors (destination: underground)
« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2007, 02:22:05 AM »
"What is overunity ?"
A good question,
cause overlooking the Tewari-machines I/II,
he ,Mr. Tewari,includes the heat to the total output for his claim of
"overunity " !
Physically right,but probably the electricity output not enough for a closed loop !

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