Mechanical free energy devices => mechanic => Topic started by: ryanjrx7 on August 14, 2007, 08:37:29 PM

Title: New/ old idea
Post by: ryanjrx7 on August 14, 2007, 08:37:29 PM
Check this out for a visual: http://science.howstuffworks.com/steam1.htm
The reason the magnet motor designs fail is they don't store the kinetic energy from the initial acceleration.  What better way to do this then with a flywheel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flywheel  I picture using two very strong magnets, maybe two inch diameter discs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flywheel in a set up using the principles in the train linkage.  That rod moving to open and close the steam valve would be modfied to hold a neo magnet, and the other magent would be affixed to a flywheel.  They would slide on top of each other, and as they do, they would repel each other, resulting in a torque applied to the axle the flywheels rotate on.  If we could get at least two lbs ft of torque, and spin the thing at 3000 RPMS we'd have a little over 1 horse power! (HP = torque X RPM devided by 5252)  Wouldnt need a multimeter to measure the output of that!
Title: Re: New/ old idea
Post by: ryanjrx7 on August 15, 2007, 02:02:03 AM
I was looking into some of the smaller engines like the Briggs and Straton 3 hp engine.  I was curious at what the bore and stroke was, and at what RPM they made their maximum torque. Here is a link. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FZX/is_10_67/ai_92586544 The reason I'm leaning torward some type of crank shaft is because the damn things work.  Wankel rotaries work, but they are only marginally superior to the crank shaft engines of smiliar displacement.  Turbines work, but they tend to only be efficient over 200 horsepower. (I wanted to cite a source, couldn't find it)  Magnetism is generally thought of as a linear force.  They pull a steel plate straight off the ground.  Most solenoids move in a straight line.  Two like poles push away from each other.  I know we talk about electron spin, and I marginally understand that magnets have electrons coming from the north to the south (think I got that right), but these spinning designs aren't working.  A piston moving a crank shaft works.  And, I'd be willing to bet that magnets with like poles facing repel each other faster than gasoline and air's rate of expansion when burning.  I know, build it-I'm working on it, and I promise I will post a video and the plans if I can make it work.  I just want everyone to look at what they're doing.  Big clunky engines are what we started with 150 years ago, it stands to reason the magnet design that works will be pretty good sized to.  If you saw any of my other replies to posts, I keep harping about flywheels.  They smooth out power pulses, and store energy.  Another thing, I know they are expensive, but bigger magnets mean bigger power.  If you spend all of your time trying to find the lowest friction bearing possible, because you have quarter inch disc magnets, you've already lost.  Start on some sort of a scale that doesn't need a multi meter to measure the .5 watts over unity you hoped you achieved.  The thing should not need a battery to keep it running.  Turning a starter motor to get it spinning makes sense, but after that it should run on its own.  Let's do this, I'm tired of these damn electric bills!
Title: Re: New/ old idea
Post by: ken_nyus on August 15, 2007, 05:21:58 PM
Have you seen the "Believe Machine"?