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hartiberlin

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Molina Martinez patent
« on: August 12, 2007, 05:08:53 PM »
Hi All,
I created this board and topic to discuss the
Alberto Molina-Martinez patent and his unit.

He wants to join this forum and we give him a new home over here.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2007, 09:59:54 PM »

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Re: Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2007, 01:02:24 AM »
Hi

Welcome Alberto Molina-Martinez.

regards

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Re: Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2007, 10:09:54 PM »

Hello Stefan,
 
Thank you for the invitation to the forum. Also to B. Tentzer and brnbrade.

I have seen some comments about my prior patent on the ?Continuous Electrical Generator? of year 2000. I want to say publicly that despite all my efforts of many years and hundreds of tests, probably thousands, it never performed as an over-unity device. At some point it seemed to be far over the unity, probably 14 to 16 times the power it was consuming, but it proved to be only apparent power, not real power.

I could run motors, turn on light bulbs, etc, as I say in that patent, but it only happened because it was actually behaving as an electromagnetically rotational transformer, but not a generator. 

I knew early in work that there was something missing for this machine to work properly, and I spent many years on its search. Over-unity devices must have an identifiable source of energy, and this device was lacking one. 

For some reason I have not trusted permanent magnets as a source of energy. I believe that it is possible to build over-unity devices with them, probably there are many out there already, but their efficiency will hardly be big enough to be used as a source of energy to redeem the world.

By 2004, while searching for a possible solution, I found my self immersed into the concept of antimatter. It was after all the most powerful source of energy known to humanity. But, could it be harnessed in a safe and economic way to be used as energy source? The answer you still find everywhere in the internet, laboratories, universities, research centers, is NO.

I?m not the kind of guy that takes a NO for an answer, for what I decided to go deep into the theme. Among all types of collisions of particles tested in physics research laboratories, I found that the collision of photons yield the most energy of all. According to CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, a collision of 2 photons can produce 183 to 209 Giga-electron-volts, far over the energy produced by the collision of any other particles or antiparticles.

The collisions of photons generate quarks and antiquarks, which in turn convert into beams of particles and antiparticles, releasing a formidable amount of energy.


The Antimatter Electrical Generator.
The deeper I went into particle physics, the more certain I was that the collision of photons was the answer I had been looking for so long. It was a source of energy in itself; the difficulty was how to harness it in a practical way.

Photons have the peculiarity that they do not collide spontaneously. You have to concentrate and direct them to force a collision, and either then, only a few of them would collide. So, the challenge was to increase their concentration to the maximum extent possible and some how make them collide.

My first design was to confront two powerful laser beams at the center of a collecting chamber. I had even written a patent for this design, when the idea came that I could use a single laser chamber if I didn?t allow photons to escape.

The result was the Self-Reflective Chamber or Photonic Reactor that I describe in my new patent, the ?Antimatter Electrical Generator?. See the complete patent in: http://www.givetheplanetachance.com/ 

(http://www.givetheplanetachance.com/Schematicviewreduced.jpg)

Summary of the Patent
 ?The invention refers to a system for the practical and inexpensive procurement of huge amounts of energy derived from the principles of matter-antimatter generation and annihilation.
 
The foundation of the system is a specially designed Self-Reflective Chamber or Photonic Reactor, which will generate photons within a totally confined space at a continuous and increasing rate, not allowing said photons to escape the chamber.
 
Photons will travel in all directions at the speed of light, just to be reflected back by the chamber walls.
Hundreds of trillions of photons traveling at the speed of light will be crossing paths with other photons in a high and continuously increasing density, until they will start colliding with other photons, at a rising rate. The photon density will continue to increase until the number of collisions enters in equilibrium with the production of new photons.
 
Each of those collisions will produce jets of subatomic particles and antiparticles, which, this time, will pass across the walls of the Self-Reflective Chamber creating a continuous flow of particles and antiparticles toward the exterior of said Self-Reflecting Chamber or Photonic Reactor.

Those charged particles and antiparticles will cross through the atoms at rest of specialized Collecting Chambers generating ion-pairs dissociations; this is electrons and positrons (the antielectrons).
   
Myriads of electrically charged particles and antiparticles passing simultaneously across the masses of the Collecting Chambers, creating ion-pairs dissociations, will generate, under the proper circumstances, what is known as avalanche multiplication.
 
The avalanches of electrons and positrons are then separated by the action of powerful Electromagnetic Rotational Fields, generating a very high electrical potential or Voltage across the terminals of the Collecting Chambers. The Power generated can be then utilized directly as electricity.
 
A second embodiment will, instead, separate the jets of particles and antiparticles by charge without any interference with matter by the use of powerful Monopolar Electromagnetic Rotational Fields. Particles and antiparticles thus created and separated can be used directly as propellant fuel for spacecraft or high trust combustion engines. Antimatter Fuel can then be produced in the site, on demand, in practically any amount.
 
In essence, the Antimatter Electrical Generator converts almost ordinary matter into pure energy.?


This technology has the potential to turn into an inexhaustible and inexpensive source of energy, bringing unimaginable prosperity to whole mankind. 
 
My purpose in participating in this forum is to spread the understanding of these ideas, in the hope of finding receptivity for their development.


My best wishes to everyone,
 

Alberto Molina-Martinez


   

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Re: Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2007, 10:57:49 PM »
Soooo....I'm guessing that this is NOT something we can raid a Radio Shack and build in our garage this weekend?

Sounds cool though...Kinda Star Trek-ish.


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Re: Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2007, 05:58:59 AM »
Martinez,

I believe I just thought of something, lasers are the most directed photon system in the world, true?
Why not create nano lasers (prob expensive) to create these collisions, I do however think that because of the intense energy realease from the photons could damage the nano lasers, leading us to create stronger smaller material. I do believe it's a possible engineering feat. What do you think? ???

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Re: Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2007, 04:17:40 PM »
Alberto

Nice idea, but what about the photons momentum?
Photons have both energy and momentum proportional to their frequency. This momentum can be transferred when a photon  collides with matter. This should heat up the matter, making the walls quite hot.
Won't you loose more energy to heating the walls which isn't reflecting 100%, than the occational collision of two photons?



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Re: Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2007, 02:11:05 PM »

Thedane

You have a valid observation. However, we might be in front of a new phenomenon capable of yielding energy far beyond our own expectations. See what I say in the patent:

?[0020] According to these formulas visible photons range in energy from 1.77 eV (at 700 nanometers wavelength) to 3.1 eV (at 400 nanometers wavelength). The photons with the most energy known, the Gamma Ray photons, range in energy from 0.0413 MeV to 0.41 MeV (Mega-electron-volts), with wavelengths between 0.03nm and 0.003nm, respectively.   
 
[0021] How come then, a collision of two photons can yield an amount of energy in the order of 183 to 209 GeV (Giga-electron Volts) as measured with the ALEPH detector at CERN? These amounts of energy are easily millions of times the sum of two photon?s energy, as calculated before. Even for the most energetic photons, these amounts would be near 200,000 times the sum of two photon?s energy.

[0022] The apparent reason could be that the quoted formulas might only refer to the kinetic energy of the photon, not its constitutional energy, in the same way that the kinetic energy of 1 Kg. of sugar falling from an altitude of 10 meters, has nothing to do with its constitutional energy given by  E=mc?. Just to remember, the lack of mass of photons does not allow us to calculate their energy with Einstein?s formula.?


The energy needed to stimulate the creation of the photons is by very far smaller than the energy yield of their collisions. And those collisions will not be by any means occasional. The environment created within the Photonic Reactor will produce ?myriads of collisions? probably by the second.

There are materials today capable of reflecting 99.9% of light, for what at the end the loss of energy due to reflection might be irrelevant. This is at least my opinion.

What I would like to do, given the opportunity, is to build the generators and test these concepts experimentally.


HopeForHumanity

If these generators prove right at some point, for sure they could be built practically at any scale. As you may have noticed in my previous comment, I passed through the concept of focusing laser beams, but I discharged the concept because the photon density required to make the system work might not be achieved, due to loss of photons.


Alberto Molina-Martinez


 

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Re: Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2007, 12:22:14 AM »
G'day all,

This is in many ways an optical version of a Keely Disintegrator. A fascinating concept deserving further study.

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2007, 08:32:14 PM »
Welcome to this forums Mr. Martinez;

for sure there is many other ways to harvest energy unknown yet to man kind, our sources of energy are at the stage were we consider them to be primitive already and very limited.

Am glad in this planet there is still hope and people with courage enough to step forward; seeking way's to help solve the largest problem civilization have encounter.

We are already experiencing an energy crisis in this planet and this is only the beginning, we don?t need to be too smart to know how this is going to affect us and work as a chain reaction, affecting sources of food, transportation and the rest.

by the time we admit it and open our eyes, it will be too late, just global warming itself will take care of the big changes yet to be, and our so called civilization will be the witness of our own actions and lack of common cense.

I hope you are very successful on your research and others join your cause to help you so this new technology can be developed, and turn to be a very solid technology capable of improve our current and primitive methods to harvest energy.

Kind regards,



Naampower




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Re: Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2007, 10:54:35 PM »
G'day all,

This is in many ways an optical version of a Keely Disintegrator. A fascinating concept deserving further study.

Hans von Lieven

can you enlarge this further? :)

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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2007, 11:10:50 PM »
G'day Esa and all,

In Keely's disintegrator the idea was to introduce several wave forms, harmonically related into a harmonically related cavity.

The idea was that the interaction of these waves created upper harmonics, so fantastically high in pitch that they were capable of influencing matter on the molecular and atomic, even subatomic levels by resonance alone.

This patent tries to achieve exactly the same but uses light instead. The only other difference is the technical jargon used by Keely and Martinez to explain its workings.

Does that answer your question Esa?

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Molina Martinez patent
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2007, 11:13:45 PM »
G'day all,

This is in many ways an optical version of a Keely Disintegrator. A fascinating concept deserving further study.

Hans von Lieven

can you enlarge this further? :)

Wasn't the Keely Disintegrator powered by compressed air secretly tubed in from the basement?

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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2007, 11:25:14 PM »
So some have said shruggedatlas,

Keely demonstrated his devices not only in his laboratory but on world exhibition stands before a huge public. Somehow I doubt that the organisers of these events permitted Keely to conceal a huge compressed air sphere below the floor so he could deceive the public.

Keely was never caught in a fraud and the only people accusing him were people that had a vested interest in suppressing his technology.

To this day no-one knows what happened to Keely's machines. There were over 2000 devices he built during his career !

Hans von Lieven

More material on Keely can be found on my website http://www.keelytech.com     Plug, Plug :-)

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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2007, 11:49:33 PM »
Just to prove my point:

(http://www.keelytech.com/overunity/keelysmotor.gif)

This is a picture of one of Keely's motors. Whilst it is true that his earlier disintegrators were massive machines, halfway through his career Keely"s disintegrators became very small. The tiny globe in the foreground on the left is his disintegrator, which he used in virtually all his experiments in at least the last 15 years before his death. Hardly the kind of device that is powered by concealed tubing and compressed air.

The disintegrator had been examined by many engineers, scientists and newsmen. It was not fixed to anything but freely movable.

Hope this convinces a few skeptics.

Hans von Lieven.