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Author Topic: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...  (Read 45250 times)

Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...
« Reply #60 on: April 20, 2008, 03:07:40 AM »

"have been learning all I can from every aspect of water."


In that case you would be remiss if you didn't do a google search on Victor Schauberger...he was/is the man in water research.

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Re: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...
« Reply #61 on: April 30, 2008, 06:31:46 PM »
I bought one of Dr. Stiffler's boards with the AV plug. Very interesting! Stiffler has a video out doing electrolysis with this very board. It was strange seeing almost no current and almost no oxygen bubbles. Does the AV plug require two diodes? Can it still work with just one? Hmmmm.... more tests...



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Re: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...
« Reply #62 on: May 29, 2008, 11:40:54 AM »
How this might work:  (pure conjecture, at this point--so be gentle!)
Standing waves of potential are created along the transmission line.  The trick would be to match the wavelength of the standing waves within the water to the plate separation distance. This could be done by tuning the frequency, the load, or both.


Because of your excellent tip my friend, I decided to post my opinion... I didn't tested all this stuff but..

If you analyze Avramenko plug you will probably find that it produces current, effect generated inside semiconductors by a electromagnetic impulse like in case of atomic bomb. CURRENT in produced inside semiconductor, that's how in my opinion Av plug works (unfortunately).

A confirmation will be soon discovered I hope.I saw that Dr Stiffler circuit damaged neon is special way which proof that theory. Current is made "in place" - between two diodes in AV plug.

The proper way to obtain radiant electricity is to match longitudinal waves flowing inside single wire with capacitance of the output load...

THERE IS NO NEED TO USE WATER CAPACITOR OR TWO PLATES!

just use one plate of big surface, match frequency of standing waves (longitudinal displacement current) that way so plate will have a one polarity potential always. If you obtain some potential levels like Meyer described (a few levels which differes in gas production) you will see it probably.

The second problem is  how to rise the potential of this longitudinal wave while flowing over single wire ? Tesla found solution : magnifying transformer, pancake coils !

Now I let you think about it . You can find additional tips in Tesla lectures and looking at Daniel Dingel reactor assembly...

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Re: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...
« Reply #62 on: May 29, 2008, 11:40:54 AM »
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Re: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...
« Reply #63 on: May 29, 2008, 12:40:12 PM »
Did you see the new vid by Gotoluc on the Dr Stiffler thread

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5y2dzXdGho

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Re: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...
« Reply #64 on: May 29, 2008, 12:47:40 PM »
Yes,maybe I'm wrong about AV plug but the only way is to try to obtain kV in cell and compare output with meyer estimations.

Did you tried to measure current with ANALOG ampmeter while cell is generating gas ?

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Re: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...
« Reply #64 on: May 29, 2008, 12:47:40 PM »
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Re: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...
« Reply #65 on: May 29, 2008, 02:18:20 PM »
Hi Forest
I don't have a SEC Exciter
you need to post your Question to Gotoulc
here
  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3457.msg100604;topicseen#msg100604
very good work going on with the SEC Exciter


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Re: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...
« Reply #66 on: May 29, 2008, 05:19:51 PM »
"have been learning all I can from every aspect of water."


In that case you would be remiss if you didn't do a google search on Victor Schauberger...he was/is the man in water research.

Regards...




Thanks, after reading Victor Schauberger's work I have made some changes to the wfc design, for I feel the shape of the resonance cavity plays an important role in all of this. Meyer's own graph data suggest this also, for the cone shape has the way more hho gas output comepaired to the rest with the same power imput. I will either use a hyperbolic shape or egg shape resonance cavity now. Again many thanks for that :D

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Re: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...
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Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...
« Reply #67 on: May 29, 2008, 09:10:34 PM »

Glad to help h2op...shapes of structures in nature contain clues also...it just takes the right person to put the pieces together.

There are many fertile minds here...I have a feeling one of us will strike on something.

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Re: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...
« Reply #68 on: May 29, 2008, 11:33:31 PM »
From what I gather on the these shapes and it's conection with water is this; Water is ever changing much as if it was alive. These two shapes are doing the same thing, ever changing if you move up and down them no one spot is ever the same. Now put that as a capacitor and bam and ever changing capacitor that will keep up with waters natural abilities.

Anyway that is just my thoughts on this, But the lessons learned from Victor Schauberger are priceless for he has shown us how to live with nature and keep the balance of everything at the same time. Too bad most of his teaching went to the corperations with only profit in mind at any cost.

Again many thanks
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Re: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...
« Reply #68 on: May 29, 2008, 11:33:31 PM »
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Re: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...
« Reply #69 on: May 30, 2008, 01:13:42 AM »
Stan's drawings edited  to use the Avramenko plug. The AV plug answers Stan's question,
"How do you restrict amps in a dead short condition?" I think it might just work...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5y2dzXdGho

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Re: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...
« Reply #70 on: August 23, 2009, 10:39:53 PM »
Hello guys i would like to invite you to my thread http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4617-stanley-meyer-true.html

Here i released the basic information about the way meyer did to achieve 1000x efficiency electrolysis.

I ask for donations so if you can please donate it will help a lot. I decided to come here and advert you about it. 

Answer he didn't used high voltage between the plates. He talked about this to confuse people.
40kv at 1ma = to 40 watts right ?
How about 4000 amps at 0,01volts
would not it be = to 40w?

The key is how to pass this huge current thru water at this very low voltage. You would need very high surface on the plates and...

Info about this here http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4617-stanley-meyer-true.html
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Re: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...
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Re: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...
« Reply #71 on: August 25, 2009, 07:59:35 AM »
to the OP... Single wire transmission of power is not new... i use it every day... putting 2 diodes on the end and calling it Zero ampere Voltage is a joke. Its just a really simplified, and dangerous, rectifier. And i am appauled that it wasn't picked up straight away. There are methods of creating massive voltage differences with low ampere. Look it up it has nothing to do with collapsing magnetic fields (though this is a way to do it, it is also a way to loose a lot of your energy as heat from your conductor resistance). You want static electricity as a means of high voltage and low amps.
And to the last poster... WOW another glass jar experimenter claiming the all knowing about the Meyers effect... ZZZZzzzZZZzzz and your asking for money!!!

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Re: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...
« Reply #72 on: August 25, 2009, 08:39:42 AM »
And to further my responses to the follow on posters...
Those claiming to be producing more gas then Mr Meyers. if you have the same or exceeded his out put maybe look at your delivery... To look at his HOME MADE buggy and say yeah i can't run my 5.4 litre camero on the same rig would be a massive oversight. A few points for you
1. His is a home made engine... i would "guess" (this is an observation pointed out to me by someone who is a close friend of mine who also builds engines for his own use) that the compression ratio for that engine is very high... if you want high compression on your standard engine get yourself a form of compressor (super charger/turbo).
2. You may think you understand but until you build somethign that works the same witht he same results you don't. Now i am not saying what he has is special what i am saying is unless your unit works on his same principals and your getting close to the same output you don't KNOW anything you THINK.
3. There are many ways to skin a cat, this is just an idea if you have a different one good make a new thread, i didn't click on this one to read about something else.
4. Lets argue about what he said and what he meant... in fact lets make a debate about it... then we all can join in en mass... you'll have the same effect!!! we'll call it a Mass-debate.

Get on with it. I have now got a "generator" with an output just shy of 1000v and a measurable amp push of ~1milliamp. The plans are freely available all over the internet.

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Re: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...
« Reply #73 on: August 25, 2009, 02:58:46 PM »
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Re: Stanley Meyer, please meet Stanislav Avramenko: Water as a fuel...
« Reply #74 on: November 01, 2019, 02:01:21 PM »
Water as fuel :
home-depot 800 Watt electric genset 150 Euros

water hydrolysis converter for the above gen-set 100 Euros (~ gun-engine device)

gen-set lifetime by "ordinary" fuel use : 8000 hours
estimated work-life by hotter and more radical hydrogen 4000 hours max.,uncoated engine


the water-fuel engine KWh-electric generating costs : minimum < 10/ > 9  Euro-cents

250 Euros, 3,5 years work-life ,4000 h x  0,8 KW,2,5% investment tax
250 x 0,31 : 800 KWh p.a.~ 9,7 €cents/KWh




water as fuel : earth batteries with less precision need are also in that price level and less

5 Euro-cents or 5,5 US$cents/ KWh has to be the first economic target : US b2b electricity average price
« Last Edit: November 01, 2019, 06:35:27 PM by lancaIV »

 

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