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Conventional alternative energy systems => energy and fuel saver => Topic started by: lancaIV on July 31, 2007, 01:25:55 AM

Title: electricity input saver
Post by: lancaIV on July 31, 2007, 01:25:55 AM
Actually the "Rotoverter" is the most cited e-saver :
a combination of generator (or alternator) and motor.
similar to  www.trinitymotors.net

Which techniques are also known:

the load-controler(soft driver) similar to  www.ismogen.com and   
                                                       www.flynnresearch.com
but also prised by Charles Larue( up to 50% less motor-e-consume)
www.panacea-bocaf.org/ChuckLarue.htm     .

Less known ( as efficiency enhancer): motor and generator lubricant

F.e. from .........,test result pages,"Appendix:Electric Motor",
50hp,3phase,440Volt AC,driving a 10" x 9" oil less Chicago Pneum. air compressor:

"Before treatment of the motor,several readings were taken and recorded.
Under load conditions,the motor was drawing 62 amps,while under no-load
conditions,the same compressor drew 50 amps. 
The liquid lubrication that was used to lubricate the 50hp electric motor was then treated in a 8% by volume ratio of ...... .

After one day of continuous running,readings were again taken.The same motor treated with ........ now showed a draw of 50 amps under load.This is a reduction of 12 amperes,or a 19% increase in efficiency.Under no-load condition ,the current dropped to 25 amperes.This is a loss of 25 amperes, or a 50% increase in efficiency.
Twenty-four hours later,another reading was taken, and it was observed that the
no-load condition once again had seen 5 more amperes in current drop,while the load condition remained the same.
Individual tests may vary from motor to motor,but in each case,the reduction in
current draw will be significant and extremely cost effective ." End.

S
  dL


Title: Re: electricity input saver
Post by: lancaIV on November 27, 2008, 07:57:30 PM
From www.ereleases.com:
Chuck Larue
Sentient Energy Concepts Inc.
www.sentienteci.com/index.htm

S
  CdL
Title: Re: electricity input saver
Post by: lancaIV on November 27, 2008, 08:09:58 PM
Actually the "Rotoverter" is the most cited e-saver :
a combination of generator (or alternator) and motor.
similar to  www.trinitymotors.net

Which techniques are also known:

the load-controler(soft driver) similar to  www.ismogen.com and   
                                                       www.flynnresearch.com
but also prised by Charles Larue( up to 50% less motor-e-consume)
www.panacea-bocaf.org/ChuckLarue.htm     .

Less known ( as efficiency enhancer):  electric motor and generator lubricant

   www.motorkote.com   www.motorkote.de

F.e. from .........,test result pages,"Appendix:Electric Motor",
50hp,3phase,440Volt AC,driving a 10" x 9" oil less Chicago Pneum. air compressor:

"Before treatment of the motor,several readings were taken and recorded.
Under load conditions,the motor was drawing 62 amps,while under no-load
conditions,the same compressor drew 50 amps. 
The liquid lubrication that was used to lubricate the 50hp electric motor was then treated in a 8% by volume ratio of ...... .

After one day of continuous running,readings were again taken.The same motor treated with ........ now showed a draw of 50 amps under load.This is a reduction of 12 amperes,or a 19% increase in efficiency.Under no-load condition ,the current dropped to 25 amperes.This is a loss of 25 amperes, or a 50% increase in efficiency.
Twenty-four hours later,another reading was taken, and it was observed that the
no-load condition once again had seen 5 more amperes in current drop,while the load condition remained the same.
Individual tests may vary from motor to motor,but in each case,the reduction in
current draw will be significant and extremely cost effective ." End.

S
  dL



Title: Re: electricity input saver
Post by: pese on November 27, 2008, 09:45:03 PM
te non-workink panacea-link, i found at archive org - because 2007 deleted in web
Pese

http://web.archive.org/web/20071103203652/http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/ChuckLarue.htm
Title: Re: electricity input saver
Post by: CrazyEwok on November 28, 2008, 04:33:58 AM
Friction is a big energy cost when operating moving parts. I'm not surprised with the findings to tell you the truth. But it is often one of the many places that is overlooked where you can save/gain a lot of efficiency!!!
Title: Re: electricity input saver
Post by: lancaIV on April 02, 2017, 03:25:13 PM
                         https://www.ultracapacitor.info/          1000 Wh or 1KWh capacity

        and 700W-350W= 350W net output          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UukXtWSLnh8&t=64s   

                                              sufficient for the future low-e household
Title: Re: electricity input saver
Post by: lancaIV on January 09, 2020, 01:05:47 PM
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?FT=D&date=20191106&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=EP&NR=3078241B1&KC=B1&ND=5# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?FT=D&date=20191106&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=EP&NR=3078241B1&KC=B1&ND=5#)
[0069] 6 times more efficient than ohmic resistance heating ( by given example comparison)

[0070] existent heater can by this device/equipment become improved by this factor
Title: Re: electricity input saver
Post by: ramset on January 09, 2020, 03:22:23 PM
6 times more heat with same input ?
Lanca a big Hug for more info......
please


Title: Re: electricity input saver
Post by: lancaIV on January 10, 2020, 03:29:38 PM
https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP14833591&tab=main (https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP14833591&tab=main)
they used publicated knowledge


the method from Kanarev/Bierbaumer [0098] [0099] [0100]
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/035385192/publication/US2009263113A1?q=pn%3DUS2009263113&called_by=EuropeanRegister (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/035385192/publication/US2009263113A1?q=pn%3DUS2009263113&called_by=EuropeanRegister)
C.O.P. up to 33 publicated
Kanarev/Bierbaumer application also became 2012 EP patent granted, later lapsed by not fee paying, Bierbaumer R. I. P. 

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/035385192/publication/EP1875140B1?q=pn%3DUS2009263113&called_by=EuropeanRegister
Title: Re: electricity input saver
Post by: tak22 on January 10, 2020, 05:55:43 PM
From patent  US10362640 (B2) ― 2019-07-23 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=10362640B2&KC=B2&FT=D&ND=6&date=20190723&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)



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It has been realized that motion of the ions in a given medium generates a significant amount of heat. It has also been realized that when the ions in the ion containing medium are excited in an at least partially closed space at a resonance frequency characteristic of the space, a stationary wave is created during the amplitude modulation of the ions set in motion. As a result of this, high-efficiency collisions are induced between the ions resulting in active heat generation. To this properly formed oscillators with alternating polarity are needed to be built in the given space. This requires suitably high-efficient oscillator electronics and controller. By using electronics for monitoring and adjusting the modulating frequency the efficiency may further be enhanced as the energy required for reaching the same temperature is significantly less. The energy demand required for this type of heat generation is entirely different from an electrically powered but ohmic heat generator.


During the amplitude modulation of the ions set in motion at a frequency characteristic of the resonant space in the cavity of housing of the heating element, a stationary wave is generated. As a result of this, high-efficiency collisions are induced between the moving, charged ions resulting in active heat generation and typically more heat can be generated than with like ohmic heat generating apparatuses while using the same amount of energy.


The graph shows the temperature/power consumption of an electric oil radiator provided with an ohmic heating element available at the market as compared to the temperature/power consumption of the same type of radiator but provided with the heat generator according to an embodiment of the invention taken as a function of time. In the graph the continuous line shows the power consumption of the heat generator according to the invention as a function of time to reach a surface temperature of 80° C. of the oil radiator. To this 15 minutes and a power of 30 W were needed. The dotted line shows the power consumption of the customary ohmic apparatus as a function of time to reach the surface temperature of 80° C. To this 4.5 minutes and a power of 190 W were needed. It is clear that the solution according to the present invention used less than one sixth of the power used by the ohmic apparatus. This ratio remains,the same while the temperature is maintained.