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Author Topic: Eldarion and Bruce's build of Bob's Energy Converter  (Read 73269 times)

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Eldarion and Bruce's build of Bob's Energy Converter
« on: July 27, 2007, 06:58:39 AM »
Well, here are some pics of my build of Bruce's concept TPU.  Gotta love the "Export to Reality" button in my CAD software!  :D ;)

I hope to fire this baby up next week; the only major item left outstanding is the boost converter for the pulses and the HV bias.

For now, enjoy. :)

P.S. If anyone here wants to have a copy of the FPGA firmware that I wrote to generate the pulses, just let me know. you can get a copy here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2894.0.html  I made it so that I can tweak pretty much anything I want to with respect to phase, pulse width, timing, etc.
« Last Edit: October 13, 2007, 12:02:22 AM by eldarion »

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Re: Eldarion's build of Bruce's mix of B.B.'s & S.M.'s TPU
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2007, 08:14:52 AM »
Well, here are some pics of my build of Bruce's concept TPU.  Gotta love the "Export to Reality" button in my CAD software!  :D ;)

I hope to fire this baby up next week; the only major item left outstanding is the boost converter for the pulses and the HV bias.

For now, enjoy. :)

P.S. If anyone here wants to have a copy of the FPGA firmware that I wrote to generate the pulses, just let me know.  I made it so that I can tweak pretty much anything I want to with respect to phase, pulse width, timing, etc.

Hi Eldarion,

The coil looks good.  Can't wait to see what happens.  I also can't wait to see that controller of yours at work on the Bob Boyce TPU in the future. 

I can't believe I never even asked you what you were using for your controller.  So I take it you can write programs for microprocessors.  You are indeed the man we have been looking for.  That will make designing a proper controller so much easier, from what a couple of the guys have mentioned before to me.

Happy Days!  :)
Bruce

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Re: Eldarion's build of Bruce's mix of B.B.'s & S.M.'s TPU
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2007, 12:18:42 PM »
Hey man,

The TPU looks sweeet :-). How big is your controller board? Can is it small enough to fit into your ring? if not you may run into major problems syncing up the controller to the coil once that high speed field forms.

Just a few days ago me and a colleague got the bright idea to see how much of a relativistic effect we could 'predict' from the rotational speed of the TPU. In my case, the fundamental resonant frequency of my coils was about 480 kHz. Now, this is a very bad approximation because we basically converted the angular speed to a linear speed and used a formula from special relativity to calculate the time shift that would result.

I can't remember what the numbers were exactly but it came out to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 276 nanoseconds difference for every one second of time. At first glance, this sounds like no big deal but from an electronics perspective, that would throw off the frequencies by more than a quarter wavelength in my case. I imagine that the effect would probably be a little worse in reality since the field is 'technically' in an accelerated reference frame, so we would have to use general relativity to predict the effects (I'm not even going to go there, lol).

But any who, my point is that if you create a field that can spin at over 30 million RPMs (in my case), there is bound to be some kind of relativistic interactions. So ultimately, we all need to keep our junk in the ring, lol. I'm guessing that wouldn't be to hard with the micro controller if you can make a small board for it to mount on inside the ring.

God Bless,
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Re: Eldarion's build of Bruce's mix of B.B.'s & S.M.'s TPU
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Re: Eldarion's build of Bruce's mix of B.B.'s & S.M.'s TPU
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2007, 03:53:55 PM »
love the rings

great work

looking foward to see the controller

wer

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Re: Eldarion's build of Bruce's mix of B.B.'s & S.M.'s TPU
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2007, 06:34:02 PM »
It would seem that I forgot to post a pic of the controller.  Here you go! :)

All the wires dangling off of it go to my power supply and scope; they are there only for testing the pulses before I hook it up to the coils.  The board in the back is a delta-sigma ADC; the MOSFET board to the right contains MAX627 MOSFET driver chips and IRF640s.

I'll clean up the source a bit and then post it if you like, but I will warn you: it's all written in Verilog and VB .NET.  This is no ordinary microcontroller! ;)  It's actually an FPGA, meaning that I create logic using a hardware definition language.  I have been programming microcontrollers for the past 5 years or so, but once I got a taste of the power of an FPGA I didn't want to go back. :D

My only concern is that the board is a bit too fat to fit in the center of the coil; I wonder if I can mount it above the coil in the center?  Or up on end in the center?

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Re: Eldarion's build of Bruce's mix of B.B.'s & S.M.'s TPU
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Re: Eldarion's build of Bruce's mix of B.B.'s & S.M.'s TPU
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2007, 07:51:59 PM »
Hi Eldarion,

Nice board you have there! I am planning on learning to program both microcontrollers and FPGAs. Which do you think is best to start learning first?

God Bless,
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Re: Eldarion's build of Bruce's mix of B.B.'s & S.M.'s TPU
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2007, 08:01:11 PM »
Hi Eldarion,

Nice board you have there! I am planning on learning to program both microcontrollers and FPGAs. Which do you think is best to start learning first?

God Bless,
Jason O

Hmmm...that's a tough call.  In many respects, for this type of work (TPU controller), knowing how to program an FPGA would be more useful, in my opinion.  You could try reading through these excellent tutorials on Verilog: http://www.asic-world.com/verilog/veritut.html

The reason that an FPGA is better here is that you can design the logic circuits to work all in parallel, versus a standard microcontroller, which can only run tasks sequentially.  Sequential execution is very bad when you must generate signals with a resolution in the tens of nanoseconds!

Hope that helps,

Eldarion

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Re: Eldarion's build of Bruce's mix of B.B.'s & S.M.'s TPU
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2007, 03:08:44 AM »
@Eldarion,
   OK -- I stand corrected. FPGA does look like an 'of the shelf' solution for a suitable controller. The Spartan 3 range looks perfect, although as you say a bit big. I presume that they have embedded versions once you have a design worked out?

I dont want to get into learning yet another programming system -- but if it's fairly easy for you then I'll look at going this way.

@Jason
   Wo -- you are so right about the relativistic effects and timing problems... more than you can know. Your calculations should be at the *very* low end of the scale when things get working well. I hadn't expected anyone to notice the relativistic differential problem just yet - excellent work!

Mark S.

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Re: Eldarion's build of Bruce's mix of B.B.'s & S.M.'s TPU
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2007, 03:44:39 AM »
Well, I just finished design and construction of the $20 bias supply!  It provides 150-200V from a 13.8V source, depending on load.  Plus, it only draws about 5 watts!

I have rescaled the meter in the picture to read in volts x10.  As you probably have guessed by now, I am a bit crazy about metering and instrumentation--if something goes wrong, I want to know exactly where with a glance, not have to spend the next 30 minutes probing around with a multimeter... ;D

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Re: Eldarion's build of Bruce's mix of B.B.'s & S.M.'s TPU
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2007, 10:53:43 PM »
Well, I just finished design and construction of the $20 bias supply!  It provides 150-200V from a 13.8V source, depending on load.  Plus, it only draws about 5 watts!

I have rescaled the meter in the picture to read in volts x10.  As you probably have guessed by now, I am a bit crazy about metering and instrumentation--if something goes wrong, I want to know exactly where with a glance, not have to spend the next 30 minutes probing around with a multimeter... ;D

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Eldarion,

Nice work man, would you mind drawing up a little schematic for us of your bias supply?

Thanks

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Re: Eldarion's build of Bruce's mix of B.B.'s & S.M.'s TPU
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2007, 12:01:04 AM »
Well, I just finished design and construction of the $20 bias supply!  It provides 150-200V from a 13.8V source, depending on load.  Plus, it only draws about 5 watts!

I have rescaled the meter in the picture to read in volts x10.  As you probably have guessed by now, I am a bit crazy about metering and instrumentation--if something goes wrong, I want to know exactly where with a glance, not have to spend the next 30 minutes probing around with a multimeter... ;D

Eldarion


Eldarion,

Nice work man, would you mind drawing up a little schematic for us of your bias supply?

Thanks

Sure!  Here you are...

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Re: Eldarion's build of Bruce's mix of B.B.'s & S.M.'s TPU
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2007, 12:10:22 AM »
Hi Eldarion,
I have 3 x ali cases for the dds 20 boards I have built.
Hammond 1455 series
http://www.hammondmfg.com/pdf/1455L1601.pdf
Like you, I have been wondering how to get the electronics into the centre of the TPU.
I hope to put two cases back-to-back and the mosfet driver and mosfets under that.
I will need to extend the controls using some clear tubing and chop sticks or something to press the buttons.
Also using a really big 15" TPU may help things.
Regards
Rob

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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2007, 01:33:09 AM »
Also using a really big 15" TPU may help things.
Yeah, I think with the amount of circuitry I have here that may be the only thing that can help! ;D

Here is a pic of the finished TPU, all hooked up but for the collector to its load.  I still have to figure out a way to limit the current drawn by the magnetic bias coils, as when I hook them up to the battery on the right (all in series), the jumper leads get extremely hot in a few seconds.  Given that there is only 0.29 ohms of resistance in those coils, I am probably drawing nearly 41.3 amps (410 watts)!!!  That is a surefire way to not get overunity performance! :D

Any thoughts?

P.S. I won't be firing this up tonight; I'll save that for tomorrow when I have a clearer head.  Given that there is almost 150V floating around in this thing, I am liable to get zapped. :P

Eldarion

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Re: Eldarion's build of Bruce's mix of B.B.'s & S.M.'s TPU
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2007, 05:05:01 AM »
@Eldarion

You should only need a few hundred milliamps at most on that magnetic bias winding. You can use a simple PWM to drop the current . You really want the ability to dial the strength of that magnetic bias anyways.

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Re: Eldarion's build of Bruce's mix of B.B.'s & S.M.'s TPU
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2007, 05:20:56 AM »
@Eldarion

You should only need a few hundred milliamps at most on that magnetic bias winding. You can use a simple PWM to drop the current . You really want the ability to dial the strength of that magnetic bias anyways.

Bob

Bob,

Thanks for the PWM idea; I had not thought of that.  I will stick another MOSFET on my driver board for variable bias control, since I have to re-do the high voltage bias anyway.

I take it the magnetic bias can be pretty weak, and it does not have to be steady on, i.e. it can (should?) be pulsed?

Eldarion

 

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