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Author Topic: Newman machine with a closed loop selfrunning without batteries or solar panels  (Read 60620 times)

Offline Tink

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When I try to upload the files the script says total upload can only be 12000KBytes so 12 Megs.
The files are 3.6 - 1.8 - 3.8 Megs each, should be easy.
I think there is a bug in your forum script somehow.

You asked: "Is this clay he is using conductive ?"
When you look at the site of: http://www.pyroclay.com/ and go to the section: http://pyroclay.com/certificate.htm you will find many metals.

Mmm, I can't PM you HartiBerlin, can't even e-mail you.
I like as much privacy as possible just like you so I won't send these files to www.megaupload.com sorry about that.
Is there no other way to upload these files?
Maybe an other member I can send them to?
PM me your mail address if you want them and I will send them (look above for the file size).

(Edit) I tried a new topic and this is what I got:
 The following error or errors occurred while posting this message:
Your session timed out while posting. Please try to re-submit your message.
No subject was filled in.
The message body was left empty.

I tell you I DID give it a subject!!!
This is useless, what can I do?

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I found your mail address via Google and you got them now, please put them on the forum.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2007, 09:21:28 AM by Tink »

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Offline hartiberlin

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Hi Tink and all,
here are the 3 videos now:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3406.0.html

Many thanks again.

Regards, Stefan.

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what would you classify this design to be?  is it a type of  newman  machine?....has  anyone seen  this design  before?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9U4QnzE1Fc

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Offline Pirate88179

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I just watched the video twice and I am not sure what he is saying.  I think he said it takes 1/2 amp to run and only charges the batteries 1/4 amp but he also said he has achieved overunity?  Can someone who is better versed in electrical devices than I explain this to me please?  Thank you.

Bill

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what would you classify this design to be?  is it a type of  newman  machine?....has  anyone seen  this design  before?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9U4QnzE1Fc

That is a poorly designed Newman machine.  His coil is all wroing being bunched up in the center.  No wonder it takes 1/4 of an amp to run.  I got mine down to 5 milliamps at 50 volts, however mine is smaller.  But 1/4 amp is too much.  His newer one runs even less efficiently and he's using a solid state relay in place of the comm I believe, which is definately a no no. 

It also doesn't sound like he knows Jack (or Jaz) about how it really works.

I give him props for trying new ways though.

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Now Joe Newman is using the grid to power his machine
via a transformer and variac setup,
but he unfortunately never runs a load on it.

See it for yourself:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4383822594398061912

It is basically now a flywheel motor with low
input power under 10 Watts, but as he did not put any load
on it, one can really say nothing about the efficiency.

A flywheel at a constant RPM does not need any input power
other than the frictional losses , which must be overcome.

If you have good bearings, it is no problem to run a big 7000 pounds
flywheel on less than 10 Watts.

So this was again a bad demonstration.
How can we get behind this, if he does not show,
what he can power with this motor ?
Why didn?t he hook up his AC generator and powering
a few 100 Watts bulbs with it ?

Offline linda933

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I agree with you, Stefan.  This demonstration is the worst I've seen yet and it tends to make me want to run far away from this guy rather than "get behind him".  I think he's cracking up, finally.

I thought he was promising a self-running system with extra power available for use (see title of thread)...now it seems like he's going backward...the last video with the batteries was more impressive by far if not faked.  What happened to the big promise of closed loop self-running?

It seems like Joseph Newman is very angry with the people for not sending him money.  He should realize that he needs to demonstrate clearly some excess energy production first.  None of his videos seem to do that or even try really.  It's like a religious tirade now; not an energy science presentation.  Joe will have to do much better than this before I send my dollar in!

Linda

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Offline Pirate88179

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I have been following this for a while now and the main thing that bothers me is statements like..." Last week, we ran this on dead batteries."  And..."You can look outside and the number on my electric meter has not moved one number."  If this was true, and it may be, why would you not show that in your demo?  If it is important enough to mention, then...show it...that's what video is for...dont tell me...show me.

Also..."I could have sold this in the 80's for billions, but I didn't."  Really?  If true, he could have further develpoed his system and changed enough about it to "give it to the world" with that kind of money.  He could have a refined version that would not be the same as what he sold.  and, even if he got sued over it for being too close to the original, he would have had a lot of money to hire lawyers to fight for him untill long after he was gone.

The above statements are just my assesment of this video, and the long series that came before.  I almost felt like sending him a dollar anyway, but I didn't.

Bill

Offline seekingknowledge

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If joe is having trouble getting it to self loop how the hell is he gunna get it to self loop and make excess electrical power, obviously the machine itself without an attatched generator has now excess usable electrical power otherwise he would of demonstrated it when he ran it off those 9 volt batteries last and it was slowly droping in speed without a generator attatched.

Stefan you have built a newman machine have you ever made any practical use of it other than research like in your own home powering light bulbs and keeping the batteries charged at the same time?

I know your newman machine was only small (i seen the google video) but maybe you have used it for something, just curious.

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My Newman machine was only about 70 % efficient from
electrical input to mechanical output,
so there was no mechanical overunity in it.

But additionally it had a large RF output,
which I was not able to capture back at that time

I will try the next few days to get again at it and try to convert the RF power
with an Avramenko plug into useful output and will see, if I can loop it back to the
input via a supercapacitor.

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Stefan:

Can we see a video of your motor?  If there is one already up, I didn't see it but I would also be very interested in seeing your next experiments with it.  Thank you.

Bill

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Offline hartiberlin

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Please see the AVI files in this directory:

http://overunity.com/newman

and then we still have this:

http://overunity.com/newman2/

New tests willbe coming up soon.

Had the last days too many other things to do,
so I have to catch up with it soon.

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I received a request from Evan Soul?,
maybe someone from the US can help ?

Please post here a reply if you know of a good generator.
Many thanks.

Stefan --

I'd you like to help, here's a request:

We are looking for a conventional 1HP generator that operates on LOW rpms -- in the 100 rpm range. There may be some windmill-related generators that operate at those speeds.  We would like to find a USA supplier.  If you have any contacts/sources that might sell such a generator, we'd be interested.

Thanks,

Evan

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He is still fooling innocent folks with power = speed, conveniently forgetting about torque (load).  The amps and volts spectrum of these types of machines are very complex, far from simple sine, cosine.  Thus you cannot accurately measure input and output watts with handheld multimeters, including high quality Fluke meters.  You need high sampling specialised energy/watt meters to measure the REAL watts drawn and produced.  The watts produced can easily be measured by simple pony brake method under load.  All that is then left is to measure the input watts with high sampling specialised energy/watt meter, compare and once and for all nobody can question the results.  Why is he not doing this?

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what's most amazing about the video is the force he uses to move the flywheel at the begining with one hand,
if it was a 7000 pound motor he would need not one hand but 4 or six to move it right?

 

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