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Author Topic: Newman machine with a closed loop selfrunning without batteries or solar panels  (Read 59893 times)

Offline kmarinas86

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volts   9   each battery
batteries   1000000   9V ones
longevity   1.00   hours
power   90,000,000,000.00   watts 90 GIGAWATTS!!!!!
cost/battery    $4
cost    $4,000,000.00    per hour
cost/(power*hours)    $0.04    per KwH
batteries/hour   1000000

Really? it sounds to me youve done your home work , well if this is true are you able to use this power ? what about linking a light bulb in there and see what you get after all thats what its all about.

The problem with my calculation is that I assume the resistance of the batteries was much higher than the resistance of the wire.  In the calculation I assumed that the batteries were connected in parallel, but that would mean the resistance of the circuit is mostly in the wire - invalidating my calculation.

Oh well.... ;)

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if an independent source could confirm Newman's claims, that may mean something.  The people he claims have validated it are not available for comment.  Warning flags go off with him having claimed for years to have it and nothing is really there.  The demo's are laughable.  I have some stories from people who feel they were ripped off by Newman at
www.phact.org/e/skeptic/newman.htm

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i will try to get closed loop too. it's under development.
i have some issues look more at my motor topic:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3909.0.html

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yeah, for 30 years we've always been told,"we will soon show the definitive test" - then it is completely inconclusive.  There are always urban legend stories about someone seeing what would be real proof or some group of secret energy making machines in a warehouse somewhere.  These kinds of promises and stories are a dime a dozen in the free energy world.  There is an unending stream of new people from all over the world making the same never-verified promises.  You have to give Newman credit for making them longer than most people.  I have info on him (that he has promised to sue me for) at
www.phact.org/e/skeptic/newman.htm

   In other news, Dennis Lee (who Newman has warned is a con man) took out a full page ad in the Jan 14 issue of Newsweek promising kits to convert cars to get double mileage.   Looks like Dennis may be moving from over unity scams to false high mileage scams.

eric krieg

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looks like eric you are negative for all overunity things i looked eric's posts only negative thins on all topics.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=profile;u=43;sa=showPosts

i don't want answer from you. i want answer from other users what they opinion about Newman motor.

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Re: Newman machine with a closed loop selfrunning without batteries or solar pan
« Reply #110 on: February 20, 2008, 12:52:52 PM »
if an independent source could confirm Newman's claims, that may mean something.  The people he claims have validated it are not available for comment.  Warning flags go off with him having claimed for years to have it and nothing is really there.  The demo's are laughable.  I have some stories from people who feel they were ripped off by Newman at
www.phact.org/e/skeptic/newman.htm

here is one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u__1Zu9zGvc

and here is it on a 5watt solar panel NO Battery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GneVcyie4X8

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I'm sorry, but this is no more significant than Newman's last 30 years of work.  It is just a motor - it does not have a real load.  It is just adding up high voltage spikes into a capacitor bank.  But the light bulb (which can not be powered by such small batteries) only glows a second .  This is Under Unity.  Were it possible to get over unity, one would just make the thing run with only caps and no batteries at all.  more info on newman at
www.phact.org/e/skeptic/newman.htm

if anyone would make real over unity, they would have more than enough smarts to do the obvious far more simple step of supplying all needed input power from excess output power.

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Re: Newman machine with a closed loop selfrunning without batteries or solar pan
« Reply #112 on: February 23, 2008, 08:18:31 PM »
I'm sorry, but this is no more significant than Newman's last 30 years of work.  It is just a motor - it does not have a real load.  It is just adding up high voltage spikes into a capacitor bank.  But the light bulb (which can not be powered by such small batteries) only glows a second .  This is Under Unity.  Were it possible to get over unity, one would just make the thing run with only caps and no batteries at all.  more info on newman at
www.phact.org/e/skeptic/newman.htm

if anyone would make real over unity, they would have more than enough smarts to do the obvious far more simple step of supplying all needed input power from excess output power.

Claims of overunity are like claims that you can light a forest up with just one flaming match. The ultimate problem is this, "CAN YOU GET ENERGY FROM ATOMS OR MOLECULES?" If the answer is "NO", then the circuit will behave as real EE's expect. But if you get energy from such sources, the results may be confused with "overunity", thereby turning off mainstream engineers' and scientists' curiosity of the device.

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Re: Newman machine with a closed loop self running without batteries or solar pan
« Reply #113 on: February 27, 2008, 02:12:24 PM »
looks like eric you are negative for all overunity things i looked eric's posts only negative thins on all topics.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=profile;u=43;sa=showPosts

i don't want answer from you. i want answer from other users what they opinion about Newman motor.

 :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ u just say it.
this forum is not ware i was looking for :( here it is more a SKEPTIC VS believer  ::)
and not about sharing info and findings of real experiments

it is a bit like discussion room ware there is a ferry loud radio in the back  :-\

my rating for this forum is a 5-

c u later wen there is les bla bla and more experiment wit multimeters and oscilloscopes!!!!!!


ITS IN YOUR HANDS NOT IN THE BOOKS!!!!! ;)

and totally not on discovery channel

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Re: Newman machine with a closed loop self running without batteries or solar pan
« Reply #113 on: February 27, 2008, 02:12:24 PM »
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DECEMBER 2007

SPEED IS POWER
Speed is very important in a collision.
If you double the speed of a car,
you increase its force of impact four times.
If you triple the speed, the impact is nine times as great.

Accordingly, the Newman Energy Machine in principle
produces unlimited speed: unlimited power!

Above is the latest addition to the newman website just that no more no less which means no links, wow speed is power we understand what your on about joe lets see some action.

Well ok.  Let's see.

If you keep the resistance held, then power is proportional to current squared.  This is when you keep the same coil, not the same voltage.  If you want to get the most power out of 9V battery, then you use commutators to make the voltage of the wire go up and down as often as possible, because when ever the connection is not there, you are not using the voltage.  So basically, if you want to build more for you money, its best to at least double the number of commutator hits per rotation, and if doing so doubles the current, it will will quadruple the power, while only halving the longevity of the battery, so overall you get twice the energy output.  If instead of increasing the number of commutator touches you connect two 9V in series, keep in mind that the 9V batteries have a resistance of their own, so you won't be able to double the current that way.  Copper wire has resistance measured in ohms per kilometer, whereas a 9V battery may have several ohms.  You would also be eating up the batteries faster that way, not good for longevity.  Believe it or not, if your motor touches the commutator for long, then you are loosing a lot of charge.  There should only be enough to give it the kick.  Therefore I feel that trying to get most out the single battery is a good goal.  After all, a 9V battery costs $4.  And $4 can get you 100 kilowatt hours of electricity, or 43 days worth of nutritional calories.  What we need is a Newman machine that can run on a 9V battery with about 100 watts of output for 43 days.

Actually I have a better idea.  Because we know that resistance of the batteries are much higher than even 1 km of copper wire, we should NOT connect the batteries in series, because that won't change the current.  Not only that, it will waste the rest of the charges!  Instead, we should simply hook the batteries in parallel and have all them run at the same time so that we DO get more current. In fact, I tried this and got better results than when I connected them in series, I now have my Newman machine actually jumping now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmIqy-Zk030



stop giving people the impression that u no a lot because u don't u "quote" text  and copy and past.
on your you tube site u delete all comments of people that try to make a debate.
and the most irritant thing is u don't answer but u just go over it wit your long talks of BULLSHIT :( ???

pleas stop this sick madness

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DECEMBER 2007

SPEED IS POWER
Speed is very important in a collision.
If you double the speed of a car,
you increase its force of impact four times.
If you triple the speed, the impact is nine times as great.

Accordingly, the Newman Energy Machine in principle
produces unlimited speed: unlimited power!

Above is the latest addition to the newman website just that no more no less which means no links, wow speed is power we understand what your on about joe lets see some action.

Well ok.  Let's see.

If you keep the resistance held, then power is proportional to current squared.  This is when you keep the same coil, not the same voltage.  If you want to get the most power out of 9V battery, then you use commutators to make the voltage of the wire go up and down as often as possible, because when ever the connection is not there, you are not using the voltage.  So basically, if you want to build more for you money, its best to at least double the number of commutator hits per rotation, and if doing so doubles the current, it will will quadruple the power, while only halving the longevity of the battery, so overall you get twice the energy output.  If instead of increasing the number of commutator touches you connect two 9V in series, keep in mind that the 9V batteries have a resistance of their own, so you won't be able to double the current that way.  Copper wire has resistance measured in ohms per kilometer, whereas a 9V battery may have several ohms.  You would also be eating up the batteries faster that way, not good for longevity.  Believe it or not, if your motor touches the commutator for long, then you are loosing a lot of charge.  There should only be enough to give it the kick.  Therefore I feel that trying to get most out the single battery is a good goal.  After all, a 9V battery costs $4.  And $4 can get you 100 kilowatt hours of electricity, or 43 days worth of nutritional calories.  What we need is a Newman machine that can run on a 9V battery with about 100 watts of output for 43 days.

Actually I have a better idea.  Because we know that resistance of the batteries are much higher than even 1 km of copper wire, we should NOT connect the batteries in series, because that won't change the current.  Not only that, it will waste the rest of the charges!  Instead, we should simply hook the batteries in parallel and have all them run at the same time so that we DO get more current. In fact, I tried this and got better results than when I connected them in series, I now have my Newman machine actually jumping now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmIqy-Zk030



stop giving people the impression that u no a lot because u don't u "quote" text  and copy and past.
on your you tube site u delete all comments of people that try to make a debate.
and the most irritant thing is u don't answer but u just go over it wit your long talks of BULLSHIT :( ???

pleas stop this sick madness

The post of mine you quoted above was from December 2007.  This is for the record, I have since learned that I was ignorant about the Newman machine.  I do not put the batteries in parallel anymore.  That is what I thought I was doing when I used the 4-AA battery holder, but that was not the case.  I was so ignorant that I did not know that the 4-AA battery holder I had connected the batteries in series.  But as time moved on, I learned what it really was.  But electronics is a huge subject.

I'll have to quote myself this time:
Quote from: me to ray0energy
You misoverestimated how often I delete other people's comments.  In fact, most of the comments I delete are mine since I later find I have misjudged what the person said, or decided that I could give a  better response.

And please do not refer to giving "thumbs down" to comments as deleting the comments.  They are not the same.  But I must admit that I still acted wrong.  See to it that I do not do this again on these videos.

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DECEMBER 2007

SPEED IS POWER
Speed is very important in a collision.
If you double the speed of a car,
you increase its force of impact four times.
If you triple the speed, the impact is nine times as great.

Accordingly, the Newman Energy Machine in principle
produces unlimited speed: unlimited power!

Above is the latest addition to the newman website just that no more no less which means no links, wow speed is power we understand what your on about joe lets see some action.

Well ok.  Let's see.

If you keep the resistance held, then power is proportional to current squared.  This is when you keep the same coil, not the same voltage.  If you want to get the most power out of 9V battery, then you use commutators to make the voltage of the wire go up and down as often as possible, because when ever the connection is not there, you are not using the voltage.  So basically, if you want to build more for you money, its best to at least double the number of commutator hits per rotation, and if doing so doubles the current, it will will quadruple the power, while only halving the longevity of the battery, so overall you get twice the energy output.  If instead of increasing the number of commutator touches you connect two 9V in series, keep in mind that the 9V batteries have a resistance of their own, so you won't be able to double the current that way.  Copper wire has resistance measured in ohms per kilometer, whereas a 9V battery may have several ohms.  You would also be eating up the batteries faster that way, not good for longevity.  Believe it or not, if your motor touches the commutator for long, then you are loosing a lot of charge.  There should only be enough to give it the kick.  Therefore I feel that trying to get most out the single battery is a good goal.  After all, a 9V battery costs $4.  And $4 can get you 100 kilowatt hours of electricity, or 43 days worth of nutritional calories.  What we need is a Newman machine that can run on a 9V battery with about 100 watts of output for 43 days.

Actually I have a better idea.  Because we know that resistance of the batteries are much higher than even 1 km of copper wire, we should NOT connect the batteries in series, because that won't change the current.  Not only that, it will waste the rest of the charges!  Instead, we should simply hook the batteries in parallel and have all them run at the same time so that we DO get more current. In fact, I tried this and got better results than when I connected them in series, I now have my Newman machine actually jumping now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmIqy-Zk030



stop giving people the impression that u no a lot because u don't u "quote" text  and copy and past.
on your you tube site u delete all comments of people that try to make a debate.
and the most irritant thing is u don't answer but u just go over it wit your long talks of BULLSHIT :( ???

pleas stop this sick madness

The post of mine you quoted above was from December 2007.  This is for the record, I have since learned that I was ignorant about the Newman machine.  I do not put the batteries in parallel anymore.  That is what I thought I was doing when I used the 4-AA battery holder, but that was not the case.  I was so ignorant that I did not know that the 4-AA battery holder I had connected the batteries in series.  But as time moved on, I learned what it really was.  But electronics is a huge subject.

I'll have to quote myself this time:
Quote from: me to ray0energy
You misoverestimated how often I delete other people's comments.  In fact, most of the comments I delete are mine since I later find I have misjudged what the person said, or decided that I could give a  better response.

And please do not refer to giving "thumbs down" to comments as deleting the comments.  They are not the same.  But I must admit that I still acted wrong.  See to it that I do not do this again on these videos.


i happy to here this from u.
the hole this was that i will never be piste at u if i no that u will not learn something from it.
because for u it is not difficult to write english. for my and many ad ere people like my  it is.
that's way we tray to tel thing wit as less words es possible. u no ;)
and the adder thing is that a lot of this new technology in not in the books as u meeno.
some one like Nicola Tesla he never left a lot of his findings in a well documented books u c.

look i will never try to put u down ok.
i just want u to don't make a fool of your self by writing so mutts.
u can better let the multi meters say it for u like i do.
and if people ask u something just answer as sort as possible.
that make this way of discussion a lot more clear for the rest of the people.

i hoop in the future it will go better and that u find a good dump for same free materials ;)
so u can make a nice copper coil
good luck

ray0energy

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moved to new thread.

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Is there a way I can see this machine for myself? I live in the USA but I am going to Germany this weekend for 2 weeks - short notice but how do I get in touch? Tx

 

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