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Offline hartiberlin

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Bob Boyce TPU thread
« on: July 26, 2007, 06:03:41 PM »
This is the Bob Boyce TPU thread.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2007, 04:55:32 PM by hartiberlin »

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Bob Boyce TPU thread
« on: July 26, 2007, 06:03:41 PM »

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Re: Bob Boyce's Working TPU
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2007, 09:38:35 PM »
Build Page 1

The Bob Boyce Toroidal Power Unit Replication Parts List and Suppliers

1.  Core -  T650-52

Micrometals, Inc. Home Office

http://www.micrometals.com/contactus_index.html

Address:  5615 E. La Palma Avenue
Anaheim, CA 92807 USA

Phone:
714-970-9400
Toll Free in US:
1-800-356-5977
Fax:
1-714-970-0400
E-Mail:
sales@micrometals.com

2.  Bee's Wax
Toilet bowl wax seal from your local building supply store

3.  Bias Winding
This winding is 48 turns of 20 guage magnet wire on this particular core.

4.  Winding tape
Can be obtained from suppliers that carry electric motor and transformer rewind supplies.
Surplus source for electrical winding tape:

http://www.surplussales.com/RF/RFTeflon-Mylar.html

The yellow, non-stretchy, thin stuff is polyester (Mylar is a brand name - of 3M - I think) - look for the yellow roll on the page.  These prices are a little cheaper than standard pricing.

5.  Woven fiberglass sleeving
Skycraft Parts & Surplus  (See #6 for contact information.)

6.  Secondary winding
a.  16ga solid copper, silver coated wire.  Somewhere around 90' or so. 131 turns seems to fit well. A bit more turns if no longitudinals are wound underneath. 

Skycraft Parts & Surplus
Business Hours (E.S.T.)
Mon-Fri: 8:30 - 6:00 p.m.
Saturday: 8:30 - 5:00 p.m.
Sunday: Closed

Skycraft Parts & Surplus
2245 West Fairbanks Ave.
Winter Park, FL 32789

Tel. (407) 628-5634
Fax (407) 647-4831

b.  Home Depot for some 0.080" weedwacker line. This was cut into 133 little pieces 1.5" long each.

c.  Vitamin C powder bottle

7.  Secondary Winding Tool
I had to make up a small spool that could pass through the toroid hole. This was made from a 3 1/2" long piece of 1" electrical PVC tubing solvent welded to a couple of 2 3/4" diameter discs. These were cut from 1/4" PVC sheet. I turned these on the lathe so they would fit over the ends of the tubing.

8.  Primaries (3 or 6.  Recommend 6 primary windings)
20ga solid copper, silver coated wire

Same source as #6 above


Hex Controller
(Future Information)
« Last Edit: August 16, 2007, 08:59:37 PM by btentzer »

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Re: Bob Boyce TPU thread
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2007, 09:39:02 PM »
Build page 2

The Bob Boyce Toroidal Power Unit Photo Journal



All future updates will be able to be downloaded from this post:

Please download the newest Bob Boyce Working Toroidal Power Unit > V.1.5.PDF
located at the bottom of the page!



« Last Edit: September 26, 2007, 05:31:25 AM by btentzer »

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Re: Bob Boyce TPU thread
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2007, 09:39:02 PM »
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Re: Welcome to the non public TPU area
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2007, 04:17:08 AM »
Thank you  Stefan and Bruce -   now it will be eseryer to keep updating on progress.  toroids are ordered and still searching for silver wire and getting all parts for PCB board. in Bobs form i have the PMW#3 and he mentioned something about specific parts that fit the board is that still a go?  I know this is a new PCB board but does the parts issue still apply, Mike    PS -to all put a short cut on your desk top to this thread and go strait to the thread :)

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Re: Welcome to the non public TPU area
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2007, 04:20:00 AM »
Excelent -- a private space :)

I have a core now but am about to run out of time untill September. I will be availble on-line but because of business travel I wont be able to experiment.

I do hope to get a few hours this weekend to do some basic experiments on longitudinal wave transmission -- I have a stack of long solenoid coils (for various tesla coils) laying around that I want to do some tests with. As it's a capacitivley coupled advanced wave we want I have some ideas I want to test for more efficent drives... I'l post some photos whatever happens.

cheers

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Re: Welcome to the non public TPU area
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2007, 05:18:16 AM »
@Bob  Boyce

What are the three states of dominant energy?

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Re: Welcome to the non public TPU area
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2007, 05:55:21 AM »
@Bob

You mentioned that you were running an electric golf cart of one of your toroids. Can you give us any more details on that, like how far you could drive before the energy surges happened and stopped you? I am just trying to 'gauge' how much energy we can be realistically expecting from our builds here...

If you don't want to answer this question it is ok. About how many watts of power do you anticipate these toroids will be able to continuously output once we finally have our systems stable? , which might be easier said than done...

ANY OU at all is incredible and will change all of our worlds here, but I was just curious anyway.

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Re: Welcome to the non public TPU area
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2007, 06:27:43 AM »
Hello All,

Glad to know we all have a nice, private thread to post the good stuff on. Bob, I definitely look forward to working with you here.

@ Everyone ,

I have some new information from my research and recent experiments to share with you that will shed LOTS of light on why the out of phase signals and harmonics do what they do. I love how Bob has been giving up all the details of how to build this thing but I've also been on a quest of understanding to know and understand the details and mechanics of the core 'mechanism' that makes this thing tick. I am preparing a long post with an article to use as reference and I will start a separate thread called (phase relationships and harmonics) for further discussion on the topic. I'm compiling a lot of info so I may or not finish it tonight but I think you all will like this :).

God Bless,
Jason O

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Re: Welcome to the non public TPU area
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2007, 06:31:02 AM »
I have some new information from my research and recent experiments to share with you that will shed LOTS of light on why the out of phase signals and harmonics do what they do. I love how Bob has been giving up all the details of how to build this thing but I've also been on a quest of understanding to know and understand the details and mechanics of the core 'mechanism' that makes this thing tick. I am preparing a long post with an article to use as reference and I will start a separate thread called (phase relationships and harmonics) for further discussion on the topic. I'm compiling a lot of info so I may or not finish it tonight but I think you all will like this :).

God Bless,
Jason O


I for one will be awaiting your writeup.

Thanks Jason, sounds awesome.

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Re: Welcome to the non public TPU area
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2007, 07:51:32 AM »
@All,
The embarrasment makes me try harder.  I look like a real Nimrod on the WinARM thread I started.  http://en.mikrocontroller.net/  Summary there of ARM7024 and ARM2048. 

Is sweeping F3/F2 really needed, because BBtpu is magnetical adjustable diameter it seems, starting out at 5" with no DC Bias.   If I am off base, stop me.  How are you guys achieving your phase adjusts with uCntrlr's?

Humble
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Re: Welcome to the non public TPU area
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2007, 08:01:23 AM »
HEY!  I meant all besides BB and the Dr.  I heard the orders loud and clear.  Bruce indicated he really really wanted us to learn uCntrls.  I do not expect anyone's code.  I am checking uCntrl choices you have all made and if they fit new 10nS pulse-width and delta .00001 accuracy (increment/freq out). 
Humble
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2007, 08:01:23 AM »
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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2007, 08:30:36 AM »
@ward

There is no ideal, of the shelf,  controller out there for what we want.

* DDS:  great frequency and accuracy. No pulse width control. SYnchronization of multiple chips tricky.

* uControllers: slow but some have 3 phase PWM output... but no fine phase control. ARM 7074 is one of the fastest dedicated devices with 3 phase PWM. As you have foune this device is good for 300Hz - 250Khz or so with diminishing accuracy at higher frequencies.

* uControllers with multiple timers and single phase PWM are fine for lower frequencies <30KHz but have very poor capability/accuracy at high frequencies. ATMega128 is best choice of these with 6 PWM outputs.


** 4 channel DDS + variable width monostables would be best. AD9959 is a quad DDS. It is also capable of rapid frequency changes so you can also test driving with spread frequency ranges -- this is mainly for the third and highest harmonic -- rather than tuning just 'off resonance' we can test driving with a spread frequency centered on the resonance frequency.

I would also like to have the output stage opto isolated on separate boards -- better for saftey and make sit easier to make a range of output boards to test: postive pulse, negative pulse, valve etc. i just posted my wish list for a controller board here http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2831.21.html

cheers

Mark.

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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2007, 11:57:36 AM »
@Dr.,  Thanks.   I'll focus on alternatives ways now. - Humble

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Re: Welcome to the non public TPU area
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2007, 04:57:58 PM »
@Bob  Boyce

What are the three states of dominant energy?

Polar
Parapolar
Diapolar

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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2007, 05:14:22 PM »
Hi all

Sorry I haven't posted earlier. A storm blasted through and took out the phone lines again. One of the drawbacks of rural living, this area loses power and phone lines every time a thunderstorm rolls through. I'm the only one around here that still has power during power grid outages, but I can't do anything about phone lines ;-)

I just wanted to touch base and let you all know I have been pretty busy, but hope to spend time out in the shop today. Before I wind my secondary on this core, I am going to go ahead and add some more longitudinal windings. This way they will already be there in case I want to do some testing with them later.

No problem on the proprietary controller... I will be releasing a basic version of my HexController, which is based on the Atmel AT-Mega48 microcontroller running with an external 20 Mhz clock for stability. I have it in alpha test with a replicator in Florida, wanted to make sure there were no trace errors prior to release. I had stopped working on it mid-design, so had to complete it on my own time. That basic version was designed prior to my being contracted to design a deluxe version, so it is not bound by the agreement. I will be more than happy to share it with the group for testing.

Bob

 

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