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Author Topic: Steorn video footage, working device?  (Read 7037 times)

RunningBare

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Re: Steorn video footage, working device?
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2007, 06:11:28 PM »
on the third one it seam to work indeed

from the video we can say the device will spin if you start to spin manually, it cannot be started alone, i dont think its halback array for the magnet, sound like more small cylinder magnet


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Re: Steorn video footage, working device?
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2007, 06:16:20 PM »
Hi guys,

On the third video, obviously, something is spinning.
Perhaps it would not spin during days or hours. That is another question.

This let me think about the Hamel spinning device or about this very 'motor':
http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-5993372670075408000
Very creative work too. This gentelman is using a candle holder and a screwdriver.
Actually, screwdrivers and adhesive tapes are essential. ;D

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Re: Steorn video footage, working device?
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2007, 07:10:45 PM »
About 3/4 of the way through the second video, someone states that the stator magnets are "magnetized through the skinny". Discussion? Diametric?

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Re: Steorn video footage, working device?
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2007, 07:04:33 PM »
"from the video we can say the device will spin if you start to spin manually"

I believe what the experimenters said was that it spins down to half speed in about two minutes and stops a few minutes after that.  They also said it has good bearings and spins better without the magnets than with.  That suggests only a flywheel effect.

"This let me think about the Hamel spinning device or about this very 'motor':
http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-5993372670075408000
Very creative work too. This gentelman is using a candle holder and a screwdriver.
Actually, screwdrivers and adhesive tapes are essential. "

Interesting video.  I wonder why he has to hold the top magnet in his hands and move it around ever so slightly to keep the very brief spin going?  You'd think he'd just put that top magnet on an adjustable stand-- it wouldn't take much time or money and he'd have at least a marketable toy if it kept spinning.  I think moving the magnet around with his hand is what makes the screwdriver spin.  I doubt that it would work if everything was attached to a simple wood frame.  Anyway, he should try that!

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Re: Steorn video footage, working device?
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2007, 08:21:25 PM »
the hamel does not work, what make the rotor turn? its your hand, fix the device and the rotor will not work

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Re: Steorn video footage, working device?
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2007, 01:42:19 AM »

Salve a tutti!

I which I were more accurate while writing English.

First of all, I do no believe that "Magnetism, like gravity, is what is called a conservative force." http://ask.metafilter.com/45235/Is-magnetism-magic-or-what

I have been playing with magnets for long time.
Actually, with a very slight motion of your hand you can acheive "perpetual motion". Of course, I'm kidding. It is as 'perpetual' as you patience in that case...  :)

I could feel/guess that the 'hand energy' imparted to the 'rotor' was less than the NRG got(ten) back from it. Just a guess of course. Anyway, I think that a tricky mechanism could make a device self running.

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Re: Steorn video footage, working device?
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2007, 04:07:16 AM »
Hi guys,

On the third video, obviously, something is spinning.
Perhaps it would not spin during days or hours. That is another question.

This let me think about the Hamel spinning device or about this very 'motor':
http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-5993372670075408000
Very creative work too. This gentelman is using a candle holder and a screwdriver.
Actually, screwdrivers and adhesive tapes are essential. ;D

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Yes,it does not seem to accelerate, which is a must for real working magnet motors.
So this prototype shown there seems not to work
as it slows down due to friction.

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Re: Steorn video footage, working device?
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2007, 07:39:39 PM »
Watch the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME6dnwtbBE4&mode=related&search=

(http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1622/steornpc1.jpg)

Just a guess.

(http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3867/conceptnz1.jpg)

From the steorn photo the brass seems offset and uneven I can't tell.