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Title: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: tao on July 25, 2007, 10:56:27 PM
Let me preface this expose with a couple words of advise. In recreating/reverse engineering any previous 'working FE device', like the TPU for instance or Floyd Sweet's VTA it doesn't matter which one, the BEST WAY to reverse engineer ANY of these devices is to FIRST go back and find the EARLIEST device that that given inventor made where he saw FE, even if his later devices had more FE output. Don't be tempted to only try and duplicate their later devices, UNLESS you HAVE TO. The reason for this is simple, you want to be as close to the genesis of their FE devices as is possible. For, it is near these genesis points that their devices are usually more simplistic in nature, and they can be analyzed deeply so that you can find that KEY INGREDIENT that provides for the FE. For example, in the case of the TPU, disregarding anything SM said in letters, the BEST devices to be looking at are the first two that we see in his videos, for these are more simplistic. I also hated the fact that SM never talked explicitly about these initial devices, for if he had explained them better, everyone would surely have the KEY to his devices by now because there isn't much to those devices, they are his genesis point. As SM even said, it took him hundreds of iterations until he got to his final devices, the ones we see in all his later videos. These are assuredly the hardest to duplicate! So, just keep all this in mind when you read the below information about Peter Markovich.

Please DO NOT POST all the LATER IMAGES and INFORMATION about Peter Markovich's LATER DEVICES!!!
For, they don't mater at this point. They only confuse the 'working FE principal' of Markovich's devices!!!


We are fortunate to have a specific document that Peter Markovich made AT HIS GENESIS POINT, and this document describes EXACTLY HOW to MAKE his 'GENESIS DEVICE' and EXACTLY HOW he FEELS IT WORKS. After reading his document and seeing the images that I have made, I guarantee that you will agree that his later devices are MUCH MORE COMPLICATED. The reason they are more complicated is because they are continually building UPON Markovich's GENESIS DEVICE, just like Steven Mark's later devices are building on his GENESIS DEVICES...

At the time of writing his disclosure document, this was Peter's device:
"Sept. 28, 1977 ~ Faraday Cage Experiment determined power rating and electrical potential at voltage of 2.5 V exactly; amperage at level of 0.5 A; wattage under ideal conditions at 1.25 W. resulting power source was attached to a series of loads which included a small incandescent light bulb used for flashlights and a 10 ohm resistor. Light remained bright and steady indicating device applicable for common electrical usage."

He progressed with his devices until they had these outputs:
"May & July, 1978 ~ The current working model of the MTEPS Research is producing 360 volts; current at 14 amps; producing AC and DC electrical power capable of running a 5 hp motor to light 6 household light bulbs. This was successfully demonstrated at the US Dept. of Energy."
But, forget about THESE LATER highher powered devices, for they will only confuse the issue...


Below is Markovich's Disclosure Document, I have highlighted key words/phrases. Usually, these Disclosure Documents aren't supposed to be SEEN by anyone! They are a means to PROTECT your inventions and to DATE YOUR 'GENESIS' POINTS, not made to disclosure your technology to the world. This ADDS 'truth' to his words, in my mind.

Below his disclosure, I have two images I made of his device as described in his disclosure...



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Disclosure Document

I, Peter T. Markovich, citizen of Canada, propose to explain the basis for what shall hereafter be known as the "Apparatus to Rectify Ether Energy" (ATREE)

I.   Preface
Humanity has long been aware of a unique form of energy that appears to be related to the electromagnetic technologies of modern civilization. These energies have been referred to in all ancient civilizations under a number of different names such as chi, prana, mana, etc. In modern times, science has adopted new names for it. These terms, whterher "odic force", "orgone energy" or "bioplasmic effect" are no more than new terms for these ancient energies. In fact, research by modern physics indicates that this energy is related in part to the classic concept of the "ether" -- an energy that would be composed of all known and unknown forms of energy (those energies that occupy the electromagnetic spectrum and allied types). Indeed, it now seems that the new physics as created in the early part of this century has not completely disproven the existence of an "ether" that would "flow" throughout the universe, but has just established the need to determine whether the "ether" fits into a new general theory on the relationships between energy and matter. In this regard, the discovery of an instrument that could convert the "ether" into a more familiar energy form (e.g., electricity) would be a boon to the formulation of any new theory on the relationships of presently known energies to the "ether".

In the spring of 1977, Peter Markovich was able to convert this energy into direct current (DC) electricity by the use of a specially constructed apparatus. Here, an important point must be made, that the instrument in question is not a perpetual motion machine, but simply a machine that is able by the use of a unique induction process to convert an energy of extremely high frequency (teracycles) to one of practically no cycles (DC electricity).

II.   Apparatus To Rectify Ether Energy
The Apparatus To Rectify Ether Energy (ATREE) is a machine that is able to transform the energy of the ether into direct current (DC) electricity. In order to accomplish this feat, the instrument takes into account the nature of ether. As many scientists now know, the ether consists of a "compressible fluid" that has a density of 10^(127) to 10^(94) wattseconds per cubic centimeter. This high energy density permits a cubic centimeter of ether to be able to provide for the energy needs of a small city. In addition, many scientists have also speculated that the ether may be conducted as a tensor field (motion by compression of the wave) and therefore is a stationary wave. These stationary waves would be able to penetrate and pass through almost all the heavenly bodies known to inhabit the universe. As is the case with radio waves, a particular antenna design would be necessary to efficiently collect and rectify this energy. Since its wavelength is 10^(-32) centimeters and motion of the wave train is quite similar to that of stationary waves, a specially designed hollow ball construction of a highly conductive metal seems most appropriate for this task. In addition, the induction unit could take advantage of the modified "L" (electric) and "H" (magnetic) fields produced by the ether energy to induct a useful electric current.

To convert this energy into electricity, it is essential that a component be provided that can collect and begin the rectification of the ether energy found near the surface of the planet. This part must be able to receive, store and conduct the ether energy to the component of the ATREE that actually rectified the ether into DC electricity. Due to its almost corkscrew motion as well as its high frequency and near electrical properties, ether energy can be collected by a hollow ball whose diameter is approximately one-sixth that of the height of the rectification component. Moreover, the ball should be composed of a very thin (26 gauge or less) metal of high electrical conductivity, such as gold, silver or copper. In our case, a hollow ball composed of copper was employed. In operation, the ether will first collect around the outside of the ball and then easily penetrate the outer surface of the ball and collect in the form of a moving swirl on the inside surface of the ball. To get this pulsating energy to the unit that actually does the rectification, it is necessary to take advantage of the near electrical properties of the ether. At this time, a specially built copper core must be employed. The core of the converter is a copper rod that has the upper 5 % of its length inserted inside the copper collection ball. The top part of this element is needle shaped to permit the swirling ether energy to jump the gap to the tip of the copper core,[/b] much in the manner of an electrical spark completing a return to ground through a pointed electrode. This core is tightly wound with 26-gauge copper wire from a point directly beneath the ball down to the opposite end of the copper rod. Also, an outer coil built from insulated #14 household wire is used in the converter. This second coil is attached on one end to the outside of the collection ball and on its opposite end to the working electrical circuit(the load).

The conversion of energy resembles in many ways the electromagnetic induction principle discovered in the 19th century. As noted previously, ether possesses two quasi-electromagnetic vectors. The first of these is the quasi-electric one that seems to carry a charge and to flow like electricity through wires. The second vector is a quasi-magnetism that differs only in the fact that the lines of flux are bent in an inward direction instead of the more well-known outward bend of magnetic flux. To induce electricity, the converter employs an unusual phenomenon related to these vectors. In the case of ether, the swirling energy flows into the rod and also into the tightly wound inner coil; however, the difference in rate and distance traveled allows the rod's energy to reach the bottom of this component way before that which goes by way of the inner coil. In doing so, the vectors cross and induce an electrical potential in the wires of the inner coil. To amplify this voltage, the outer coil must be wound counter to the winding of the inner coil. Here, the return circuit through this coil acts in the same manner as the secondary induction coil in a transformer.

To summarize the process mentioned above, let us quickly review the entire conversion process. First, the ether jumps to the tip of the converter's core(the copper rod) and is conducted toward the opposite end of the rod that is connected to the electrical circuit(the load). Simultaneously, the ether flows through the tightly wound inner coil to the opposite end of the rod. The difference in rate and distance allows the coil and the copper rod to induce an electrical potential that is greater at the bottom of the rod than at its top. Finally, the outer coil wound counter to the inner one acts as an amplifier of the electrical potential and current since its fields (the electrical circuit return to the ball) have the property to amplify the quasi-electricity produced by the induction process in the copper rod and the inner coil. In this fashion, the ATREE is able to convert ether energy into useable DC electricity.

To conclude, we have seen how a specially constructed instrument as first conceived and developed by Peter Markovich in the spring of 1977 has been able to conduct and convert ether into DC electricity. As future developments continue, it holds the promise of giving humanity a possible alternative to fossil and nuclear generation of electrical energy.

Presented by: Peter Markovich
October 1, 1977
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Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: argona369 on July 25, 2007, 11:45:58 PM
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Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: tao on July 26, 2007, 12:58:27 AM
Looks straight forward.
Have you had any success in reproducing this?

Cliff,

Cliff,

After doing MUCH research into all this....

Which included talking directly to Sheldon Nidle himself, one of Peter Markovich's closest colleages and co-workers, doing quite a bit of analytical analysis with all the known information, and consulting a German physicist who is developing his own grandiose models for the 'Ether', I felt that I had enough information to conclude that Markovich's devices were 100% REAL.

I felt that now was the time to set the record straight, and attempt a working device using the BEST possible instructions. So, as I was sitting here, finding and sourcing all the necessary materials, I felt it a good idea to write-up an entire and concise post about how to recreate Markovich's devices.

I didn't feel it necessary to build it first before posting all this information, for not only is time money, time is energy too ;P

So, I will be building this, and doing it right.

You gentlemen can do the same if you so choose to, I feel that I have now shown everyone a precise path to follow in replicating Markovich's work. I hope you all enjoy the work that I put into this...

Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: dlwammo on July 26, 2007, 01:08:10 AM
@tao

Is the copper rod in direct contact with the sphere, or does it pass through some type of insulator
in order to expose the 5% required?

Dan
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: argona369 on July 26, 2007, 01:16:50 AM
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Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: tao on July 26, 2007, 01:28:22 AM
Sounds interesting TAO,
Markovich?s devices has been on the net for a long time,
but with controversy.
I?ve also been thinking  of sphere or parabolic types
Of energy concentration .
ufo?s seem to always have a sphere somewhere in it,
Ie spherical pods underneath, domes, spherical craft, etc.
(my concentration of alterative physics research)

I wish you success in your research and experimenting.
And will be interested in your findings.

Cliff,


Lets not start any discussions on this PYRAMID device in this thread please!, but Flavio Thomas's Pyramid seems to be harnessing the EXACT same 'stuff'/'ether' that Markovich's was... It is a modern day example. http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Pyramid_Power:Thomas_Trawoger

Why do I say this?

I contacted some 'pyramid guys' as in physicists from the US and Russia, the Russian guy has done HUGE experiments with giant pyramids, anyway, I contacted them. The Russian gentlemen has made up his own terms for the 'ether', but he recounts of it's quasi-electrical/magnetic properties and says that a pyramidal structure is one excellent way that you can SHAPE/GUIDE this 'ether' energy!  BUT, it MUST BE ORIENTED IN SPECIFIC DIRECTIONS for this to happen, and this is why Flavio's pyramid doesn't work if it isn't ALIGNED to magnetic north!

BUT, a SPHERE doesn't have the ORIENTATION problem! It can SHAPE/GUIDE the 'ether' at anytime. So, Flavio's pyramid is a modern day variant of Markovich's SPHERE-'ether' powered devices!

I don't have much time at the moment, going to dinner, hence I was a bit short on the details, I hope you all "GET" what I was trying to say!
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: argona369 on July 26, 2007, 05:01:44 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: tao on July 26, 2007, 05:38:00 AM
>Lets not start any discussions on this device in this thread please!,

What?

where are you discussing this then?

LOL, I just didn't want this thread to become a thread about the pyramid only...

Sorry if my words sounded wrong.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: argona369 on July 26, 2007, 05:40:40 AM
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Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: sidneysomes on July 26, 2007, 08:49:52 AM
Does anyone know what happened to Peter Markovich?  Such a promising device and a research center in San Francisco in the late 70's then what?  Shelden Nidle and Marcel Vogel vouched for the technology.  Spooky how there are no Google entries after that.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: tao on July 26, 2007, 03:35:08 PM
Does anyone know what happened to Peter Markovich?  Such a promising device and a research center in San Francisco in the late 70's then what?  Shelden Nidle and Marcel Vogel vouched for the technology.  Spooky how there are no Google entries after that.


More money is spent on ENERGY each year, than any other thing in this world. As an example, one piece of the money spent each year is on the global petroleum industry. In that industry alone, more than 1.8 trillion dollars are spent for it!

ANYONE of the people making a lot of money off of ENERGY, especially at these income levels, would do ANYTHING to make sure they keep getting their money!

Read Peter Lindemann's document here http://www.free-energy.ws/lindemann-1.html ('The World of Free Energy' By Peter Lindemann), it explains the whole situation VERY well; "ENERGY = CAPITAL", "MONEY is CAPITAL too", "All sources of CAPITAL are NORMALLY kept in control by 'those in power', yet FREE ENERGY would allow ANYONE to CREATE their own CAPITAL, which results is LOSS OF CONTROL to 'those in power' of the world's resources"...........

So don't be surprised if Markovich's or anyone else's devices are 'snuffed out'. There is NO WAY that ANYONE will be selling FE devices in ANY public view in the near future, so anyone that has an FE device and thinks they are going to strike it rich will only be able to get $ (or death) by baiting the ENERGY barons and trying to get a 'buy out, hush deal', as in, 'take this money and shut up, or die....'. The only thing that can be done is to GIVE IT AWAY TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, PERIOD.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: BEP on July 26, 2007, 06:01:31 PM
I take this as a gift. Thanks, Tao!
His devices have always proven interesting. I had heard of this one but didn't have enough detail to try it.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: sidneysomes on July 27, 2007, 12:04:33 AM
This and the pyramid device are just the cheap, non-complicated, simple-to-construct, off-the-shelf-materials, no-moving-parts type of devices that could change the world---if they work.  Someone get busy and try to duplicate these!
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: JamesThomas on July 28, 2007, 03:04:30 AM
@Tao,

Your post at the beginning of this thread looked like it took a lot of research and time to do the art work. Very nice. Thank you for that.

This idea seems reminiscent of Cook's Electromagnetic Battery. He too had two winding around a rod, but no ball.

(http://my.voyager.net/~jrrandall/CookPatent.gif).


What size copper ball do you feel would be a good starting point?

j
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: tao on July 28, 2007, 03:40:47 AM
@Tao,

Your post at the beginning of this thread looked like it took a lot of research and time to do the art work. Very nice. Thank you for that.

This idea seems reminiscent of Cook's Electromagnetic Battery. He too had two winding around a rod, but no ball.

What size copper ball do you feel would be a good starting point?

j


Thanks,

I sourced out a perfect place to get the copper spheres, at good prices, and exactly how we need them, just a 24-26 awg(gauge) PURE copper sphere with a hole in it. The place I found will let you pick the size (1/8" to 1-1/2") hole you want to, so as to fit your copper rod.

I am thinking of getting a 3-5 inch copper sphere, haven't quite decided on my dimensions yet, doing just a little more research. I will be ordering on Monday though, so that is the time limit.

http://www.necopperworks.com/copperballs.html is the source

I tried many other places and was quoted in excess of $400 for a 6 inch sphere! So, this place does them right, and does them at awesome prices. I was also considering buying a 'copper float' and taking off the connectors, but that is just a bad idea. So, this is THE PLACE to buy them, if you want to attempt the Markovich setup........
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: archon79 on July 28, 2007, 03:48:57 AM
Nice work Tao. It says the copper ball has to be 1/6th the size of the copper rod, but I wonder if there is some sort of inverse relationship between the diameter of the rod and the size/height of the entire device too.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: tao on July 28, 2007, 03:53:23 AM
Nice work Tao. It says the copper ball has to be 1/6th the size of the copper rod, but I wonder if there is some sort of inverse relationship between the diameter of the rod and the size/height of the entire device too.

Yes, it says that, but with all the additions that Markovich later made to his devices, adding a coil here or there, or changing his copper rod to a silver rod, I WOULD THINK that we should still see SOME output, even if we don't exactly meet that 1/6 measurement... At least those where my thoughts on it, I did intend to buy a couple sizes of spheres and rods though...
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: JamesThomas on July 28, 2007, 04:42:45 AM
There are several things I like about this contraption.

First is the simplicity, and the idea that it may receive energy from its surroundings. Also it is esthetically charming with its Victorian age look, as if on a stormy night it may start humming and begin to levitate or shot off sparks.

Whether it works or not, mounting it on a nice little hardwood base would give one an intriguing piece of artwork that would look quite fitting next to one of my brass microscopes.

Going to give this one some serious thought. I like it.

Thanks again, Tao.

j
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: sidneysomes on July 28, 2007, 09:23:55 PM
In regard to the copper sphere we are dealing with a simple ether aka orgone concentrator.  The work of Reich and their successors the Correas and others suggests a metal box works well.  It would be a lot easier to construct non-spherical metal containers including pyramids to test. It would certainly reduce the cost of materials.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: BEP on July 29, 2007, 03:08:39 AM
Based upon experience with the use of similar components in other experiments I would suggest avoiding spheres that are not round. While you may have results with something else, I can say that roundness, smoothness inside and out and consistent thickness will affect performance.

These spheres are difficult to build. I’ve tried a numbers of ways with only a little success.
I won't be building this one very soon because of unfinished tests on others but it does look promising.

No I don’t have a concrete idea of how this one works.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: Motorcoach1 on July 29, 2007, 05:36:46 AM
Tao    thanks for the interesting thread. This has been on my list of things to play with in my life time but allways got brushed to the side. I took a metal spinning class years ago to make parts fot a Tesla rig. Spinning copper or aluminum you need a real strong arm> hahaha I'm wrking on 3 projects at the moment but will be learking on the progress :) Mike   and those prices are good ! 
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: CodeWebs on July 29, 2007, 09:55:54 PM
That is an interesting diagram.  From what I've read it seems as though the load would be placed between the side of the sphere and the 14 gauge wire, and the ends of the wires at the bottom would simply be connected to the end of the copper rod.  I am going to build this a few ways and see what I come up with though.  Thanks for the great illustration.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: Super God on July 29, 2007, 10:16:53 PM
Sweet, yet another invention for my future 'Free Energy Hall of Fame' cabinet! :D

There's too many promising free energy devices to construct! :o  Oh well, lot's of choice and variety!
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: tao on July 29, 2007, 11:33:59 PM
I assume the red and blue wires are insultated.  I will try it with a parabolic reflector first, and I can make one, the sphere is a little harder.  Also, the tip of the rod is in the collector (sphere)  Does it contact metal to metal or air gap or insulator?


I am not sure about the contact between the copper rod and sphere, first I was going to test metal-metal, then use a little insulator like plastic or paper if I absolutely see nothing being output.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: archon79 on July 30, 2007, 02:52:30 AM
In regard to the copper sphere we are dealing with a simple ether aka orgone concentrator.  The work of Reich and their successors the Correas and others suggests a metal box works well.  It would be a lot easier to construct non-spherical metal containers including pyramids to test. It would certainly reduce the cost of materials.

I heard that Wilhelm Reich had developed some free energy machines that harnesses the power of the aether/orgone. Is this why he was imprisoned in the 1940's ?
But information on his work is very difficult to find.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: sidneysomes on July 30, 2007, 08:31:28 PM
There are several Reich sites on the net, just google Wilhelm Reich. All of his work is now available at local libraries or for sale.  The Correa's work, at aetherometry.com is the best site to study orgone concentrators.  Wilhelm Reich noticed a small, but always demonstrable higher temperature in or just above an orgone concentrator(essentially just a metal box). There is a great story about how Reich  approached Einstein to show this to him.  Reich gave Einstein a concentrator which Einstein set up in his basement.  Indeed it did show an continual increased temperature.  Einstein's assistant dismissed the effect as heat absorbsion  even though the color of the concentrator was not black(therefore not absorbing excess heat).  To have accepted the ether Einstein would have to at least modify if not scrap relativity, the source of most of his renoun. The Correa's have a patent on a little orgone concentrator with a stirling engine on top.  Supposedly the stirling always runs, even for weeks in a darkened room.  I don't know why we haven't seen this in toy stores, but after Eugene Mallove's death, very little has come out of Aetherometry, even though they have a patent on a combo tesla coil-plasma tube-electric motor that produces a significant COP of 6 or more.  Perhaps lack of investment, the bain of most free-energy devices.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: Unicron on July 30, 2007, 09:57:21 PM
I found this page for making your own balls  ;D (copper)

http://users.hubwest.com/hubert/projects/balls/balls.html
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: Nali2001 on July 31, 2007, 12:08:34 AM
Nah mates, spheres like this are most likely made by a process called "metal spinning"
Example:

http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=1948621375828862482&q=metal+spinning&total=170&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2 (http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=1948621375828862482&q=metal+spinning&total=170&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2)

http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=6092727959803371599&q=metal+spinning&total=170&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1 (http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=6092727959803371599&q=metal+spinning&total=170&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1)
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: vince on July 31, 2007, 03:08:05 AM
Hi Guys,

I been watching this site for a long time but this is my first post.  This device looked interesting so I made a quick version with some stainless steel items I had lying around.  The central rod is sharpened and insulated from the stainless ball by the neoprene tube.  As you can see my meter shows NADA.  Maybe copper is essential !!!
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: tao on July 31, 2007, 04:06:10 AM
I contacted the company, going to buy a 4" copper sphere with a 1/2" hole. I will most likely hear from them again tomorrow, and then they have to fab it.

I plan on then ordering a 1/2" OD Copper ROD, 24" long.

This also would satisfy the 1/6th semi-requirement, that being that the diameter of the sphere is about 1/6th the height of the conversion element.

This should be sufficient for my tests and to satisfy what Markovich laid out in his Disclosure Document.




Vince,

You have two coils on your setup right, counter wound? Just checking. I would also say that copper, or silver or gold, is needed.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: Super God on July 31, 2007, 04:14:30 AM
Tao, if you could post a video once you get your device set up, that would be awesome.  Even if this device only puts out enough for an LED, it PROVES that there IS something out there we can tap into.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: vince on August 08, 2007, 03:23:23 AM
For anyone that is interested in this device;

I have made another attempt at replicating the A.T.R.E.E..  This time I took more care at following the description of the device.

5/8 " diameter central core with a tapered tip to needle point. 18" length which is 6 times the diameter of the ball.

Primary coil is 26 gauge copper wire tightly wound onto core with masking tape as an insulator between the wire and the core.  Wire was wound with a jig for a smooth clean profile. Copper wire was soldered at the top and bottom of the rod.

Secondary winding was 14 gauge solid copper insulated wiring also wound with a jig.

3" copper sphere hand formed from light gauge copper sheet. The sphere was not a perfect but I felt that if this device works it should give some kind of reading.

I soldered the wire to the side of the sphere and tested everything for continuity.

I am not getting any kind of voltage at all.  I've tried all kinds of hookups including a ground connection but am coming up with nothing.
The only interesting thing that happened was a reading of up to 35 volts when I touched the sphere with a jumper from my vandergraff generator.

If anyone has any suggestions or ideas it would be appreciated.  I'm not sure this device is worth pursuing at this point!
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: tao on August 08, 2007, 03:33:04 AM
For anyone that is interested in this device;

I have made another attempt at replicating the A.T.R.E.E..  This time I took more care at following the description of the device.

5/8 " diameter central core with a tapered tip to needle point. 18" length which is 6 times the diameter of the ball.

Primary coil is 26 gauge copper wire tightly wound onto core with masking tape as an insulator between the wire and the core.  Wire was wound with a jig for a smooth clean profile. Copper wire was soldered at the top and bottom of the rod.

Secondary winding was 14 gauge solid copper insulated wiring also wound with a jig.

3" copper sphere hand formed from light gauge copper sheet. The sphere was not a perfect but I felt that if this device works it should give some kind of reading.

I soldered the wire to the side of the sphere and tested everything for continuity.

I am not getting any kind of voltage at all.  I've tried all kinds of hookups including a ground connection but am coming up with nothing.
The only interesting thing that happened was a reading of up to 35 volts when I touched the sphere with a jumper from my vandergraff generator.

If anyone has any suggestions or ideas it would be appreciated.  I'm not sure this device is worth pursuing at this point!



So, the sphere is hollow right?

Can you place a resistor, like a 1 ohm or something, between the end of the rod and the lower end of the secondary wire and measure the voltage across this?

Is the copper rod in contact with the rod at all? At the point where the rod enters the ball?

What is the green piece that is under the copper ball?
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: mikestocks2006 on August 08, 2007, 04:20:03 AM
....

If anyone has any suggestions or ideas it would be appreciated.  I'm not sure this device is worth pursuing at this point!


Hi vince

It's not clear from the picture, but just in case, may I suggest:
The tip of the coper rod to be at about the center of the sphere,
and
the copper rod to not be in direct contact with the sphere.

Nice work, good luck

Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: vince on August 08, 2007, 04:23:36 AM
Ive tried the tip at various locations in the sphere as it is mounted on a plastic insulator that lets me side it up and down.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: vince on August 08, 2007, 04:34:21 AM
Yes the sphere is hollow and the green piece is a plastic insulator.  I will place a resistor at the point you suggested and try to get a voltage reading.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: mikestocks2006 on August 08, 2007, 04:36:16 AM
Vince, Ok thx for confirming.
also are the coils wound CCW and CW as shown in Tao's original pic?

Did you try the influence of an external magnetic field, eg a Neo near by, either stationary or moving, to possibly get some oscillations going?

In some other devices it appears that there is a pm magnet required to get them going.

Maybe someone who has a clear understanding on the principles of operation and performance parameters can shed some light on how this works?

Thanks
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: digitalcrypto on December 20, 2007, 04:47:44 AM
Where are your secondary coils?  This device will not produce a phase change.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: vince on December 20, 2007, 06:27:39 AM
The coils are wound exactly as the rendition shows on the first post of this thread.  The primary winding is under the black one you see in the picture.  It is attached to the copper rod as the diagram shows and the outer coil is attached to the copper sphere.  I have tried resistors and led's on the load connection but I still get nothing.  I have even attached about 100 feet of coaxial cable to the sphere with hopes of  enhancing it's presence in the aether but I have seen no signs of any power whatsoever. I even tried leaving the load connections attached to various capacitors overnight to see if they would charge . NOTHING!
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: digitalcrypto on December 20, 2007, 06:40:39 AM
Yes I understand this.  You have a collector.  It looks nice.  Where is the amp (coil)?

You are missing almost a mile of wire according to these pics.

Edit: Not to be vague but according to Tesla's specifications this device should tune to 185,000 miles or there abouts.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: vince on December 20, 2007, 06:49:42 AM
Maybe I'm missing something in understanding the diagram but I only see one layer of wire wound on the primary and one layer on the secondary. That's what I did. It does not state a length of wire only the gauge. I tried to keep the ratio to what was described . I don't understand what you mean by the amp coil. Sorry, but I was only trying to replicate what I saw .
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: digitalcrypto on December 20, 2007, 06:54:24 AM
Tesla's information described the wavelength he was attempting to capture.

The specs for the wave length from the data I have are 185k miles long, 200 miles wide and 925 hz.

This is a picture of what it should look like in completed stage.  It also has some information which I did not see in this thread.

So check this and let me know your thoughts on it.  You've completed the difficult part.

http://www.geocities.com/capecanaveral/lab/1287/markp6.html

Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: vince on December 20, 2007, 07:09:11 AM
I have never seen that information before. Now I see what you mean about all the wire in the amp coil.  I'm not sure where or if I would get all that wire but maybe I could try using a transformer winding. Just a thought! Getting real late here so Calling it a night for now.

Thanks
Vince
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: digitalcrypto on December 20, 2007, 07:32:02 AM
http://graybar.com  ;)
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 21, 2007, 03:49:04 AM
The rod and sphere must be electrically isolated from one another.

we are talking about a hollow sphere here, not a ball with a hole drilled in it. It must be very thin and smooth inside and out.

The type of metal may vary, but they fall within the class of non-magnetic metals (copper,silver,gold,platinum)

iron or steel will not work, because it induces an opposing magnetic field within the material that cancels out the electric potential.

Be SURE that your wiring is NOT paramagnetic. you can test this by placing a magnet to the wire. If it is attracted, find a different wire. (if you're using copper wiring you dont have to worry about this)


The wires used in the 2 coils should be proportionally sized (meaning that the larger wire is divisible by the diameter of the smaller , or by a common denominator of the two)

Also the number of turns should be proportional to the opposite degree  (2x size = 1/2x the # of turns)

the (inner) coil should be bare copper wire. an insulated copper wire actually has an inductance, which will prevent ANY current from flowing through it. rather we provide a circular (shorted) path for some of the energy to flow through (on the surface of....).  The secondary coil is insulated to created the induction effect to drive the load.

Hope this helps.

[as for the mile long Tesla thing, it's size has no bearing on the effect  Its massive size was designed for one reason and one reason only,
--To Achieve Incedible Ammounts of Energy from One Device - so he could play with it consistently without interupting the commercial power-grid his machines were hooked to. I dont believe he ever got a chance to actually make this large version of the device before his laboratory was confiscated.]

Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: vince on January 02, 2008, 04:12:58 AM
Hi All;

I was playing around with the
ATREE I had built earlier in this post and to my surprise there might be something to this design after all.  Earlier I had tried many different things to try and get voltage from the device but my meter showed nothing.. Well It turns out my meter was faulty!   When I tried checking the voltage with a new more sensitive meter I was getting a small but constant voltage of 80 to 100 m volts.  I tried putting different capacitors across the two output leads and was able to vary the voltage substantially.  With two 50 volt 22000 uF dc capacitors in parallel I am able to maintain .15 volts .  I has gotten as high as .7volts.  When I attached a 2500 volt ac microwave capacitor to the ATREE I was able to actually get a spark after about 10 minutes of charging.  The output is definitely DC..I tried putting a resistor across th leads after the capacitor and it drained the voltage to 0.  It will slowly build the charge after a while and return to a steady state.  I don't have a low voltage LED to try on it but when I get one I will try it. 

I'm not sure how to harvest this voltage but it is definitely acting like a collector.  I know my device is crude but maybe a properly built one will get better results.

I am currently building a RENE- RATER and will post some pictures soon for anyone that is interested.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: Super God on January 02, 2008, 06:10:05 AM
NICE!
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: prohexima on January 02, 2008, 11:13:46 AM
Hi vince ,
did you change your configuration i mean the primary coil ;
before you wound insulated copper wire am i wrong?
did you change it with bare copper wire ?

 
Hi All;

I was playing around with the
ATREE I had built earlier in this post and to my surprise there might be something to this design after all.  Earlier I had tried many different things to try and get voltage from the device but my meter showed nothing.. Well It turns out my meter was faulty!   When I tried checking the voltage with a new more sensitive meter I was getting a small but constant voltage of 80 to 100 m volts.  I tried putting different capacitors across the two output leads and was able to vary the voltage substantially.  With two 50 volt 22000 uF dc capacitors in parallel I am able to maintain .15 volts .  I has gotten as high as .7volts.  When I attached a 2500 volt ac microwave capacitor to the ATREE I was able to actually get a spark after about 10 minutes of charging.  The output is definitely DC..I tried putting a resistor across th leads after the capacitor and it drained the voltage to 0.  It will slowly build the charge after a while and return to a steady state.  I don't have a low voltage LED to try on it but when I get one I will try it. 

I'm not sure how to harvest this voltage but it is definitely acting like a collector.  I know my device is crude but maybe a properly built one will get better results.

I am currently building a RENE- RATER and will post some pictures soon for anyone that is interested.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: vince on January 02, 2008, 02:15:28 PM
NO, I did not change a thing.  The primary is wound with #26 magnet wire just like the original diagram in this posting shows.  The only things that I changed was my meter and the way I attached capacitors to it.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: Ariochdm on January 02, 2008, 06:06:55 PM
You might get an additional gain in electricity by moving the wire that connects to the sphere.  Placing it around 19.5 degrees below the equator might yield a gain.  This is based on the hyperdimensional physics model aka Hoagland where signatures of of the aether expressing itself on environment occur on a rotating sphere at 19.5 degrees above and below the equator.  Even though your unit is stationary you might still see something. 

http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/hyper/solm1.jpg

Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 02, 2008, 08:32:57 PM
That is interesting, i will have to experiment with the location of the sphere connector.

I have some interesting results, can anyone confirm these 2 things for me??

1) the current appears fo be proportional to the size of the sphere

2) voltage appears to be proportional to the number of turns in the primary divided by the number of turns on the secondary windings. - i.e. - increase the total number of turns on both coils and thus should increase the voltage.

im running out of ferrite rods, my longest one thus far is 14 inches. If anyone could play with a larger set-up that would be helpful.

hyp.::    if my calculations hold true, a 1kw unit should be approx 2-ft diameter hollow sphere (copper or aluminum)
and approx 300 turns on the primary / 150 on the secondary. 

currently my biggest problem is an inconsstency in the curent when a load is attached,  the current drops exponentially from 130ma down to 0 after a 10-15 seconds (with a 14-inch rod [60/30 turns] + 9-inch sphere)

This leads me to believe the sphere is acting as a sort of "capacitor", charging over time from the induced voltage diference. I need to experiment with completely discharging the sphere, then measure the "charge time" along a current-based-scale. 
Im guessing there is relationship to the charging-time of the sphere, to its discharge time  (i.e. -current out) . 

Solution:::--  Construct two devices, discharge one intentionally, at the halfway mark of the discharge time, to offset them, then collect them as a low-voltage A/C signal, through a square-wave rectifier to produce a (steady) DC output.

any thoughts? or anyone that can test these things and confirm/deny what im seeing here? thanks.
         
                                         Sm0ky
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: jrader on January 03, 2008, 03:04:02 AM
have read on the subject,and seen drawings,you can look up peter markovich,and see the drawings at rex research.com very interesting information,hope this helps. thanks jrader
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: prohexima on January 04, 2008, 07:44:59 AM


currently my biggest problem is an inconsstency in the curent when a load is attached,  the current drops exponentially from 130ma down to 0 after a 10-15 seconds (with a 14-inch rod [60/30 turns] + 9-inch sphere)


Hi sm0ky2,
what about voltage???
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 04, 2008, 10:45:35 PM
my 2 largest voltages thus far have come from the 9-inch spheres (these are the argest i have)

copper sphere (9in) yields a consistent 0.13v DC potential between the lead from the secondary lead ot the bottom of the rod.  (-0.13v if measured in the other direction)

the aluminum sphere (9in) yields a varying voltage potential between 0.04 - 0.9v DC, im not sure what causes the variance - my two best guesses are temperature and/or the mixture of different metals in the aluminum alloy.
[i could not obtain a hollow sphere made of pure aluminum - they are hard to come by, and i was also told that it would quickly form an oxide layer on the outer (and inner) surface, which would act like an insulator, destroying the effect we are trying to achieve.]

My next attempt is going to be constructed with a hollow Brass sphere, im shooting for 12-14 inch if i can find one.
if it has to be custom made, i'll get the biggest one my pockest can afford.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 04, 2008, 10:55:55 PM
at best, what i have is approx 2/100th's of a Watt, which decreases over the discharge time of the sphere (capacitor).

i have not yet been able to achieve a non-stop DC output of any measurable current, the current is only present when i let it "charge" for a few seconds.

also i have found an increase in ferformance when you completely seal(air tight) the hole in the bottom of the sphere, around the rod shaft. - this seal also doubles as an insulator for the inner coil lead, between it and the sphere, allowing a much closer solder point at the top of the rod. - although my next one will be attached actually up INSIDE the sphere just under the "point", my mind keeps telling me to do this for some reason, so im gonna go with it..

Brass should perform slightly better than the copper, it lies between copper and silver on the list of metals
silver, gold, or even platinum/titanium are probably the best metals to build this device out of, but i am not rich enough to build a golden toy :)

honestly i think the "ground-battery" gives a much better power output for the cost of parts, but this does have the advantage of mobility, so im going to toy with it for a little while longer. - if anyone has suggestions to try, or results of their own i would appreciate as much input as i can get at this point.

p.s. i mentioned in an earlier post about using a ferrite rod - disregard this - continue using non-ferromagnetic rods, it does not have the advantage that i thought it would have, and may in fact decrease performance, or at least make it inconsistent.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: prohexima on January 05, 2008, 01:25:02 PM
hi smoky,
also testing it under the faraday cage of course if possibility exist :) will be a good experiment to understand if the charge is coming from aether.
thanks for sharing your experiments.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 08, 2008, 10:40:42 PM
the more i toy with this, the more i tihnk "comming from the aether" is not what is happening here at all. 

If i had to describe this effect, it would be along the lines of a peltier effect, along a temperature constant. There is a voltage potential, but (almost) no current flow.
if the circuit is isolated (open) the cummulative charge density can build up.

which "auto"-charges some types of capacitors over time.

This capacitor, just happens to be a sphere.

i have not been able to detect any ionic disturbances with my static-detectors, and they are extremely sensitive at a close range, so i am confident there are no ion accumulations involved.


If you want to see this effect in greater quantities, get a pelter thermoelectric "CPU cooler", and attach it to a capacitor at ambient temperaure on both terminals.
(you can increase the voltage obtained by placing it in a magnetic field.)

i think the coils could essentially be replaced with a strip of dissimilar metal attached from the sphere to the bottom of the rod.
voltage would be obtained between the sphere and the top of the rod. this effect is achieved by the coils, not by induction, but by increasing the conductive path on one side of the circuit, which is (synthetically) the same as using a different metal.
many designs, in fact used different metal coils

when there is a thermal difference between the two ends, the situation is extremely compounded with differing energy levels, but at a thermal equilibrium, there is simply a voltage potential, with current so low your meter probably will read 0.000, but will charge a cap over time.

Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: saintsnick on January 13, 2009, 04:34:51 PM
Did anyone tinker with the position of the rod pin-point inside the sphere?  Should it be centered exactly? Perhaps offset from center, eiether too far in or too far out? And by how much? 

The original doc here says 1/5 of the rod in the ball.  Is anyone trimming the outside portion of their rod to be 4 times the leingth which is already inside the rod?

-saintsnick
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: spiralout on February 07, 2009, 05:28:02 PM
hi saintsnick,

it says 5% of the rod inside the sphere, not 1/5, it's a big difference.

spiral, out.
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: ziogaio on October 26, 2009, 12:17:36 PM
Hi, I'm new on this forum. I'm write from Italy and my english is very bad..... I hope you understand me......
I have other diagram, where is draw a circular primary coil with an internal secondary spiral coil....but the primary coil where is connected?
Thanks and sorry for my english....  :'(
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: FatBird on October 26, 2009, 01:20:59 PM
Here is some information that I found on the ATREE.

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Washington Research Center (San Francisco, CA)
In 1899, Nikola Tesla discovered the principle that now serves as the basis for the receiver unit that was first tested by peter Markovich in August of 1977. At this point, let us briefly review what was discovered by Dr. Tesla in July of 1899. If we look at US Patent # 725,605 entitled "System of Signaling", we will find diagrams that described the Tesla system. This system was based on what Dr. Tesla called a wave phenomenon that was not electromagnetic in nature. This wave was able to produce useable electrical energy that was taken from the Earth's atmosphere.

This wave as described by Tesla and partially proven by Markovich had a number of unique characteristics. First, the wave train was stationary with a length of about 185,000 miles and a width of about 200 miles. Secondly, it had a frequency of 925 cycles per second. Finally, the wave's speed was equal to or greater than the speed of light.

To understand the instrument and how it is able to generate electrical power, we must divide the unit into three components. These parts are the windings or coils (a primary and secondary units), their shape, and the height and diameter of the capacitor electrode (electron pool). Included in the design of the receiver is the type and composition of the materials used in its construction. To understand the theory behind the device, one must remember that the Earth and its Atmosphere are electromagnetically charged. Further, an instrument that is properly "grounded into this system can be used to receive and transmit useable energy -- a point discovered and noted by Tesla on July 17, 1899 at his Colorado Springs Laboratory.

The Markovich device incorporates the basic principle discovered at Colorado Springs by Dr.Tesla -- namely, that the Earth is a giant condenser The Earth's surface can be seen as one plate and the ionosphere as the other plate through which an electric-like charge is constantly flowing.

At present, the Markovich unit can be rated at 2.5 volts and 0.5 (or 0.025) amps. This rating yields approximately 1.25 (or 0.06) watts of power. If the presently loose connections were properly cleaned and soldered, the unit could produce an increased efficiency of about 18% or 1.48 (or 0.07) watts.

Moreover, if the system were properly "grounded" by connecting it to another unit of oppositely wound coils, the efficiency could be increased from 30 to 60% or 1.63 (or 0.08) to 2.19 (or 0.10) watts. This rating can also be vastly increased by altering the composition of the materials used to make the device. Here Markovich has confirmed the importance of using materials (metals) of high electrical conductivity such as copper, silver, gold, etc. the ideal material is a metal alloy of copper and silver. This material was employed by Tesla in the transmitter built at Wardenclyffe (Shoreham, Long Isladn< NY) in the early 1900s.

Thus the immediate goals of the research program on the rediscovered Tesla power system is basically five-fold in nature. First, the wave phenomenon has to be correctly measured and its exact nature discovered.

Second, the exact relationship between the energy utilized by the machine and the better known certain types of materials that act as more efficient conductors of this energy must be fully ascertained.

Fourth, the effect of the use of this system on the various organisms that inhabit this planet must be discovered.

Finally, the possible interface to the so-called "psychic energy" and any possible relationships must be fully researched.
 
By adequately learning the nature of the energy that is produced by the Tesla-Markovich energy unit, a general theory of the nature of electromagnetism and energies closely related to them may be possible. In so doing, one may be able to advance the "state of the art" of Man's technology. Moreover, in the long run, the new discoveries may not only solve the energy crisis, but also the "technology crisis" that presently distorts the potential of contemporary civilization.

Presented by: Dr. Peter Markovich
Witnessed by: [10 persons]



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Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: FatBird on October 26, 2009, 01:29:30 PM
I found this on the web.



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Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: libra_spirit on February 16, 2011, 10:34:11 PM
In all the experiments thus far has anyone felt the "pulsation" described in the first post?

I have been messing with an aluminum rod 6 foot long about 3/8" thick, and a copper sphere with 6" diameter. As I insert the rod into the hole in the sphere I get various "vibrations" felt on touching the rod and sphere, and various depths of insertion.

Other things of note,

The copper rod with a pointed end does not pass electricity but Aether, or what I would call a vibration.
To pass current through an arc to a copper tip would burn the tip off and pit the copper.
It is my belief, the copper sphere is soldered directly onto the copper rod for the purpose of tuning in the vibration that will then run the rods length.

It seems to me, if the copper sphere were to be insulated from the rod, such an important point would not have been left out of the descriptions.

The sphere is described as an "electron pool", "Aether swirls the inside surface", just like a Joe Cell, and then the Aether runs down the rod. The sphere is not an electrical capacitor, or an arcing component, but merely used to tune in the vibration and condition the rod.

The rod then, with the first coil soldered to each end is the Electric generator, expressing a voltage from end to end.

The EM circuit runs from the lower tip of the rod, through the load, and then back to the sphere or top end of the rod. If the sphere is insulated from the rod, then what you will create is only a static circuit, which cannot flow any current due to an opened joint between sphere and rod. This would then tend to build up and then bleed off as is being reported. This cannot be the intention, as no circuit can flow electrical power though a gap that large and a copper tip that small.

Dave L


 
Title: Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
Post by: AquaSusurro on July 18, 2022, 07:49:41 PM
Sorry to bring back a ten year old thread but I'm interested in recreating Markovich's experiment. There seems to be very little new information out there, certainly nothing from the inventor since 1978!! A couple of questions to the collective.

Does anyone know what the secondary coil (the spiral) is made from?
To me it looks like a piece of soft copper tubing, the question is, is there a wire wound inside the tube? Similar to the primary coil?

Has anyone modified the copper sphere to accumulate more energy, ie orgone accumulator?

From the drawings I have found the wiring of the primary coil is inconsistent. One has both ends of the coil going up through the mast others do not.

For anyone who has successfully done the experiment, please feel free to message me or post your circuit diagram.

I will post pictures of my setup as I get the materials together.

Thanks in Advance,