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Author Topic: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.  (Read 68600 times)

Offline Super God

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2007, 04:14:30 AM »
Tao, if you could post a video once you get your device set up, that would be awesome.  Even if this device only puts out enough for an LED, it PROVES that there IS something out there we can tap into.

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2007, 03:23:23 AM »
For anyone that is interested in this device;

I have made another attempt at replicating the A.T.R.E.E..  This time I took more care at following the description of the device.

5/8 " diameter central core with a tapered tip to needle point. 18" length which is 6 times the diameter of the ball.

Primary coil is 26 gauge copper wire tightly wound onto core with masking tape as an insulator between the wire and the core.  Wire was wound with a jig for a smooth clean profile. Copper wire was soldered at the top and bottom of the rod.

Secondary winding was 14 gauge solid copper insulated wiring also wound with a jig.

3" copper sphere hand formed from light gauge copper sheet. The sphere was not a perfect but I felt that if this device works it should give some kind of reading.

I soldered the wire to the side of the sphere and tested everything for continuity.

I am not getting any kind of voltage at all.  I've tried all kinds of hookups including a ground connection but am coming up with nothing.
The only interesting thing that happened was a reading of up to 35 volts when I touched the sphere with a jumper from my vandergraff generator.

If anyone has any suggestions or ideas it would be appreciated.  I'm not sure this device is worth pursuing at this point!

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2007, 03:33:04 AM »
For anyone that is interested in this device;

I have made another attempt at replicating the A.T.R.E.E..  This time I took more care at following the description of the device.

5/8 " diameter central core with a tapered tip to needle point. 18" length which is 6 times the diameter of the ball.

Primary coil is 26 gauge copper wire tightly wound onto core with masking tape as an insulator between the wire and the core.  Wire was wound with a jig for a smooth clean profile. Copper wire was soldered at the top and bottom of the rod.

Secondary winding was 14 gauge solid copper insulated wiring also wound with a jig.

3" copper sphere hand formed from light gauge copper sheet. The sphere was not a perfect but I felt that if this device works it should give some kind of reading.

I soldered the wire to the side of the sphere and tested everything for continuity.

I am not getting any kind of voltage at all.  I've tried all kinds of hookups including a ground connection but am coming up with nothing.
The only interesting thing that happened was a reading of up to 35 volts when I touched the sphere with a jumper from my vandergraff generator.

If anyone has any suggestions or ideas it would be appreciated.  I'm not sure this device is worth pursuing at this point!



So, the sphere is hollow right?

Can you place a resistor, like a 1 ohm or something, between the end of the rod and the lower end of the secondary wire and measure the voltage across this?

Is the copper rod in contact with the rod at all? At the point where the rod enters the ball?

What is the green piece that is under the copper ball?

Offline mikestocks2006

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2007, 04:20:03 AM »
....

If anyone has any suggestions or ideas it would be appreciated.  I'm not sure this device is worth pursuing at this point!


Hi vince

It's not clear from the picture, but just in case, may I suggest:
The tip of the coper rod to be at about the center of the sphere,
and
the copper rod to not be in direct contact with the sphere.

Nice work, good luck


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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2007, 04:23:36 AM »
Ive tried the tip at various locations in the sphere as it is mounted on a plastic insulator that lets me side it up and down.

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2007, 04:34:21 AM »
Yes the sphere is hollow and the green piece is a plastic insulator.  I will place a resistor at the point you suggested and try to get a voltage reading.

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2007, 04:36:16 AM »
Vince, Ok thx for confirming.
also are the coils wound CCW and CW as shown in Tao's original pic?

Did you try the influence of an external magnetic field, eg a Neo near by, either stationary or moving, to possibly get some oscillations going?

In some other devices it appears that there is a pm magnet required to get them going.

Maybe someone who has a clear understanding on the principles of operation and performance parameters can shed some light on how this works?

Thanks

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2007, 04:47:44 AM »
Where are your secondary coils?  This device will not produce a phase change.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2007, 05:09:34 AM by digitalcrypto »

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2007, 06:27:39 AM »
The coils are wound exactly as the rendition shows on the first post of this thread.  The primary winding is under the black one you see in the picture.  It is attached to the copper rod as the diagram shows and the outer coil is attached to the copper sphere.  I have tried resistors and led's on the load connection but I still get nothing.  I have even attached about 100 feet of coaxial cable to the sphere with hopes of  enhancing it's presence in the aether but I have seen no signs of any power whatsoever. I even tried leaving the load connections attached to various capacitors overnight to see if they would charge . NOTHING!

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #39 on: December 20, 2007, 06:40:39 AM »
Yes I understand this.  You have a collector.  It looks nice.  Where is the amp (coil)?

You are missing almost a mile of wire according to these pics.

Edit: Not to be vague but according to Tesla's specifications this device should tune to 185,000 miles or there abouts.

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #40 on: December 20, 2007, 06:49:42 AM »
Maybe I'm missing something in understanding the diagram but I only see one layer of wire wound on the primary and one layer on the secondary. That's what I did. It does not state a length of wire only the gauge. I tried to keep the ratio to what was described . I don't understand what you mean by the amp coil. Sorry, but I was only trying to replicate what I saw .

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #41 on: December 20, 2007, 06:54:24 AM »
Tesla's information described the wavelength he was attempting to capture.

The specs for the wave length from the data I have are 185k miles long, 200 miles wide and 925 hz.

This is a picture of what it should look like in completed stage.  It also has some information which I did not see in this thread.

So check this and let me know your thoughts on it.  You've completed the difficult part.

http://www.geocities.com/capecanaveral/lab/1287/markp6.html


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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #42 on: December 20, 2007, 07:09:11 AM »
I have never seen that information before. Now I see what you mean about all the wire in the amp coil.  I'm not sure where or if I would get all that wire but maybe I could try using a transformer winding. Just a thought! Getting real late here so Calling it a night for now.

Thanks
Vince

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2007, 07:32:02 AM »

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #44 on: December 21, 2007, 03:49:04 AM »
The rod and sphere must be electrically isolated from one another.

we are talking about a hollow sphere here, not a ball with a hole drilled in it. It must be very thin and smooth inside and out.

The type of metal may vary, but they fall within the class of non-magnetic metals (copper,silver,gold,platinum)

iron or steel will not work, because it induces an opposing magnetic field within the material that cancels out the electric potential.

Be SURE that your wiring is NOT paramagnetic. you can test this by placing a magnet to the wire. If it is attracted, find a different wire. (if you're using copper wiring you dont have to worry about this)


The wires used in the 2 coils should be proportionally sized (meaning that the larger wire is divisible by the diameter of the smaller , or by a common denominator of the two)

Also the number of turns should be proportional to the opposite degree  (2x size = 1/2x the # of turns)

the (inner) coil should be bare copper wire. an insulated copper wire actually has an inductance, which will prevent ANY current from flowing through it. rather we provide a circular (shorted) path for some of the energy to flow through (on the surface of....).  The secondary coil is insulated to created the induction effect to drive the load.

Hope this helps.

[as for the mile long Tesla thing, it's size has no bearing on the effect  Its massive size was designed for one reason and one reason only,
--To Achieve Incedible Ammounts of Energy from One Device - so he could play with it consistently without interupting the commercial power-grid his machines were hooked to. I dont believe he ever got a chance to actually make this large version of the device before his laboratory was confiscated.]

« Last Edit: January 02, 2008, 07:11:48 AM by sm0ky2 »