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Author Topic: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.  (Read 68603 times)

Offline vince

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #45 on: January 02, 2008, 04:12:58 AM »
Hi All;

I was playing around with the
ATREE I had built earlier in this post and to my surprise there might be something to this design after all.  Earlier I had tried many different things to try and get voltage from the device but my meter showed nothing.. Well It turns out my meter was faulty!   When I tried checking the voltage with a new more sensitive meter I was getting a small but constant voltage of 80 to 100 m volts.  I tried putting different capacitors across the two output leads and was able to vary the voltage substantially.  With two 50 volt 22000 uF dc capacitors in parallel I am able to maintain .15 volts .  I has gotten as high as .7volts.  When I attached a 2500 volt ac microwave capacitor to the ATREE I was able to actually get a spark after about 10 minutes of charging.  The output is definitely DC..I tried putting a resistor across th leads after the capacitor and it drained the voltage to 0.  It will slowly build the charge after a while and return to a steady state.  I don't have a low voltage LED to try on it but when I get one I will try it. 

I'm not sure how to harvest this voltage but it is definitely acting like a collector.  I know my device is crude but maybe a properly built one will get better results.

I am currently building a RENE- RATER and will post some pictures soon for anyone that is interested.

Offline Super God

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #46 on: January 02, 2008, 06:10:05 AM »
NICE!

Offline prohexima

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #47 on: January 02, 2008, 11:13:46 AM »
Hi vince ,
did you change your configuration i mean the primary coil ;
before you wound insulated copper wire am i wrong?
did you change it with bare copper wire ?

 
Hi All;

I was playing around with the
ATREE I had built earlier in this post and to my surprise there might be something to this design after all.  Earlier I had tried many different things to try and get voltage from the device but my meter showed nothing.. Well It turns out my meter was faulty!   When I tried checking the voltage with a new more sensitive meter I was getting a small but constant voltage of 80 to 100 m volts.  I tried putting different capacitors across the two output leads and was able to vary the voltage substantially.  With two 50 volt 22000 uF dc capacitors in parallel I am able to maintain .15 volts .  I has gotten as high as .7volts.  When I attached a 2500 volt ac microwave capacitor to the ATREE I was able to actually get a spark after about 10 minutes of charging.  The output is definitely DC..I tried putting a resistor across th leads after the capacitor and it drained the voltage to 0.  It will slowly build the charge after a while and return to a steady state.  I don't have a low voltage LED to try on it but when I get one I will try it. 

I'm not sure how to harvest this voltage but it is definitely acting like a collector.  I know my device is crude but maybe a properly built one will get better results.

I am currently building a RENE- RATER and will post some pictures soon for anyone that is interested.

Offline vince

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #48 on: January 02, 2008, 02:15:28 PM »
NO, I did not change a thing.  The primary is wound with #26 magnet wire just like the original diagram in this posting shows.  The only things that I changed was my meter and the way I attached capacitors to it.

Offline Ariochdm

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #49 on: January 02, 2008, 06:06:55 PM »
You might get an additional gain in electricity by moving the wire that connects to the sphere.  Placing it around 19.5 degrees below the equator might yield a gain.  This is based on the hyperdimensional physics model aka Hoagland where signatures of of the aether expressing itself on environment occur on a rotating sphere at 19.5 degrees above and below the equator.  Even though your unit is stationary you might still see something. 

http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/hyper/solm1.jpg


Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #50 on: January 02, 2008, 08:32:57 PM »
That is interesting, i will have to experiment with the location of the sphere connector.

I have some interesting results, can anyone confirm these 2 things for me??

1) the current appears fo be proportional to the size of the sphere

2) voltage appears to be proportional to the number of turns in the primary divided by the number of turns on the secondary windings. - i.e. - increase the total number of turns on both coils and thus should increase the voltage.

im running out of ferrite rods, my longest one thus far is 14 inches. If anyone could play with a larger set-up that would be helpful.

hyp.::    if my calculations hold true, a 1kw unit should be approx 2-ft diameter hollow sphere (copper or aluminum)
and approx 300 turns on the primary / 150 on the secondary. 

currently my biggest problem is an inconsstency in the curent when a load is attached,  the current drops exponentially from 130ma down to 0 after a 10-15 seconds (with a 14-inch rod [60/30 turns] + 9-inch sphere)

This leads me to believe the sphere is acting as a sort of "capacitor", charging over time from the induced voltage diference. I need to experiment with completely discharging the sphere, then measure the "charge time" along a current-based-scale. 
Im guessing there is relationship to the charging-time of the sphere, to its discharge time  (i.e. -current out) . 

Solution:::--  Construct two devices, discharge one intentionally, at the halfway mark of the discharge time, to offset them, then collect them as a low-voltage A/C signal, through a square-wave rectifier to produce a (steady) DC output.

any thoughts? or anyone that can test these things and confirm/deny what im seeing here? thanks.
         
                                         Sm0ky

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #51 on: January 03, 2008, 03:04:02 AM »
have read on the subject,and seen drawings,you can look up peter markovich,and see the drawings at rex research.com very interesting information,hope this helps. thanks jrader

Offline prohexima

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #52 on: January 04, 2008, 07:44:59 AM »


currently my biggest problem is an inconsstency in the curent when a load is attached,  the current drops exponentially from 130ma down to 0 after a 10-15 seconds (with a 14-inch rod [60/30 turns] + 9-inch sphere)


Hi sm0ky2,
what about voltage???

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #53 on: January 04, 2008, 10:45:35 PM »
my 2 largest voltages thus far have come from the 9-inch spheres (these are the argest i have)

copper sphere (9in) yields a consistent 0.13v DC potential between the lead from the secondary lead ot the bottom of the rod.  (-0.13v if measured in the other direction)

the aluminum sphere (9in) yields a varying voltage potential between 0.04 - 0.9v DC, im not sure what causes the variance - my two best guesses are temperature and/or the mixture of different metals in the aluminum alloy.
[i could not obtain a hollow sphere made of pure aluminum - they are hard to come by, and i was also told that it would quickly form an oxide layer on the outer (and inner) surface, which would act like an insulator, destroying the effect we are trying to achieve.]

My next attempt is going to be constructed with a hollow Brass sphere, im shooting for 12-14 inch if i can find one.
if it has to be custom made, i'll get the biggest one my pockest can afford.

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #54 on: January 04, 2008, 10:55:55 PM »
at best, what i have is approx 2/100th's of a Watt, which decreases over the discharge time of the sphere (capacitor).

i have not yet been able to achieve a non-stop DC output of any measurable current, the current is only present when i let it "charge" for a few seconds.

also i have found an increase in ferformance when you completely seal(air tight) the hole in the bottom of the sphere, around the rod shaft. - this seal also doubles as an insulator for the inner coil lead, between it and the sphere, allowing a much closer solder point at the top of the rod. - although my next one will be attached actually up INSIDE the sphere just under the "point", my mind keeps telling me to do this for some reason, so im gonna go with it..

Brass should perform slightly better than the copper, it lies between copper and silver on the list of metals
silver, gold, or even platinum/titanium are probably the best metals to build this device out of, but i am not rich enough to build a golden toy :)

honestly i think the "ground-battery" gives a much better power output for the cost of parts, but this does have the advantage of mobility, so im going to toy with it for a little while longer. - if anyone has suggestions to try, or results of their own i would appreciate as much input as i can get at this point.

p.s. i mentioned in an earlier post about using a ferrite rod - disregard this - continue using non-ferromagnetic rods, it does not have the advantage that i thought it would have, and may in fact decrease performance, or at least make it inconsistent.

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2008, 01:25:02 PM »
hi smoky,
also testing it under the faraday cage of course if possibility exist :) will be a good experiment to understand if the charge is coming from aether.
thanks for sharing your experiments.

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2008, 10:40:42 PM »
the more i toy with this, the more i tihnk "comming from the aether" is not what is happening here at all. 

If i had to describe this effect, it would be along the lines of a peltier effect, along a temperature constant. There is a voltage potential, but (almost) no current flow.
if the circuit is isolated (open) the cummulative charge density can build up.

which "auto"-charges some types of capacitors over time.

This capacitor, just happens to be a sphere.

i have not been able to detect any ionic disturbances with my static-detectors, and they are extremely sensitive at a close range, so i am confident there are no ion accumulations involved.


If you want to see this effect in greater quantities, get a pelter thermoelectric "CPU cooler", and attach it to a capacitor at ambient temperaure on both terminals.
(you can increase the voltage obtained by placing it in a magnetic field.)

i think the coils could essentially be replaced with a strip of dissimilar metal attached from the sphere to the bottom of the rod.
voltage would be obtained between the sphere and the top of the rod. this effect is achieved by the coils, not by induction, but by increasing the conductive path on one side of the circuit, which is (synthetically) the same as using a different metal.
many designs, in fact used different metal coils

when there is a thermal difference between the two ends, the situation is extremely compounded with differing energy levels, but at a thermal equilibrium, there is simply a voltage potential, with current so low your meter probably will read 0.000, but will charge a cap over time.


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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #57 on: January 13, 2009, 04:34:51 PM »
Did anyone tinker with the position of the rod pin-point inside the sphere?  Should it be centered exactly? Perhaps offset from center, eiether too far in or too far out? And by how much? 

The original doc here says 1/5 of the rod in the ball.  Is anyone trimming the outside portion of their rod to be 4 times the leingth which is already inside the rod?

-saintsnick

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #58 on: February 07, 2009, 05:28:02 PM »
hi saintsnick,

it says 5% of the rod inside the sphere, not 1/5, it's a big difference.

spiral, out.

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #59 on: October 26, 2009, 12:17:36 PM »
Hi, I'm new on this forum. I'm write from Italy and my english is very bad..... I hope you understand me......
I have other diagram, where is draw a circular primary coil with an internal secondary spiral coil....but the primary coil where is connected?
Thanks and sorry for my english....  :'(