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Author Topic: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.  (Read 67599 times)

Offline archon79

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2007, 03:48:57 AM »
Nice work Tao. It says the copper ball has to be 1/6th the size of the copper rod, but I wonder if there is some sort of inverse relationship between the diameter of the rod and the size/height of the entire device too.

Offline tao

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2007, 03:53:23 AM »
Nice work Tao. It says the copper ball has to be 1/6th the size of the copper rod, but I wonder if there is some sort of inverse relationship between the diameter of the rod and the size/height of the entire device too.

Yes, it says that, but with all the additions that Markovich later made to his devices, adding a coil here or there, or changing his copper rod to a silver rod, I WOULD THINK that we should still see SOME output, even if we don't exactly meet that 1/6 measurement... At least those where my thoughts on it, I did intend to buy a couple sizes of spheres and rods though...

Offline JamesThomas

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2007, 04:42:45 AM »
There are several things I like about this contraption.

First is the simplicity, and the idea that it may receive energy from its surroundings. Also it is esthetically charming with its Victorian age look, as if on a stormy night it may start humming and begin to levitate or shot off sparks.

Whether it works or not, mounting it on a nice little hardwood base would give one an intriguing piece of artwork that would look quite fitting next to one of my brass microscopes.

Going to give this one some serious thought. I like it.

Thanks again, Tao.

j

Offline sidneysomes

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2007, 09:23:55 PM »
In regard to the copper sphere we are dealing with a simple ether aka orgone concentrator.  The work of Reich and their successors the Correas and others suggests a metal box works well.  It would be a lot easier to construct non-spherical metal containers including pyramids to test. It would certainly reduce the cost of materials.

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2007, 03:08:39 AM »
Based upon experience with the use of similar components in other experiments I would suggest avoiding spheres that are not round. While you may have results with something else, I can say that roundness, smoothness inside and out and consistent thickness will affect performance.

These spheres are difficult to build. I’ve tried a numbers of ways with only a little success.
I won't be building this one very soon because of unfinished tests on others but it does look promising.

No I don’t have a concrete idea of how this one works.

Offline Motorcoach1

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2007, 05:36:46 AM »
Tao    thanks for the interesting thread. This has been on my list of things to play with in my life time but allways got brushed to the side. I took a metal spinning class years ago to make parts fot a Tesla rig. Spinning copper or aluminum you need a real strong arm> hahaha I'm wrking on 3 projects at the moment but will be learking on the progress :) Mike   and those prices are good ! 

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2007, 09:55:54 PM »
That is an interesting diagram.  From what I've read it seems as though the load would be placed between the side of the sphere and the 14 gauge wire, and the ends of the wires at the bottom would simply be connected to the end of the copper rod.  I am going to build this a few ways and see what I come up with though.  Thanks for the great illustration.

Offline Super God

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2007, 10:16:53 PM »
Sweet, yet another invention for my future 'Free Energy Hall of Fame' cabinet! :D

There's too many promising free energy devices to construct! :o  Oh well, lot's of choice and variety!

Offline tao

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2007, 11:33:59 PM »
I assume the red and blue wires are insultated.  I will try it with a parabolic reflector first, and I can make one, the sphere is a little harder.  Also, the tip of the rod is in the collector (sphere)  Does it contact metal to metal or air gap or insulator?


I am not sure about the contact between the copper rod and sphere, first I was going to test metal-metal, then use a little insulator like plastic or paper if I absolutely see nothing being output.

Offline archon79

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2007, 02:52:30 AM »
In regard to the copper sphere we are dealing with a simple ether aka orgone concentrator.  The work of Reich and their successors the Correas and others suggests a metal box works well.  It would be a lot easier to construct non-spherical metal containers including pyramids to test. It would certainly reduce the cost of materials.

I heard that Wilhelm Reich had developed some free energy machines that harnesses the power of the aether/orgone. Is this why he was imprisoned in the 1940's ?
But information on his work is very difficult to find.

Offline sidneysomes

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2007, 08:31:28 PM »
There are several Reich sites on the net, just google Wilhelm Reich. All of his work is now available at local libraries or for sale.  The Correa's work, at aetherometry.com is the best site to study orgone concentrators.  Wilhelm Reich noticed a small, but always demonstrable higher temperature in or just above an orgone concentrator(essentially just a metal box). There is a great story about how Reich  approached Einstein to show this to him.  Reich gave Einstein a concentrator which Einstein set up in his basement.  Indeed it did show an continual increased temperature.  Einstein's assistant dismissed the effect as heat absorbsion  even though the color of the concentrator was not black(therefore not absorbing excess heat).  To have accepted the ether Einstein would have to at least modify if not scrap relativity, the source of most of his renoun. The Correa's have a patent on a little orgone concentrator with a stirling engine on top.  Supposedly the stirling always runs, even for weeks in a darkened room.  I don't know why we haven't seen this in toy stores, but after Eugene Mallove's death, very little has come out of Aetherometry, even though they have a patent on a combo tesla coil-plasma tube-electric motor that produces a significant COP of 6 or more.  Perhaps lack of investment, the bain of most free-energy devices.

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2007, 09:57:21 PM »
I found this page for making your own balls  ;D (copper)

http://users.hubwest.com/hubert/projects/balls/balls.html


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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2007, 03:08:05 AM »
Hi Guys,

I been watching this site for a long time but this is my first post.  This device looked interesting so I made a quick version with some stainless steel items I had lying around.  The central rod is sharpened and insulated from the stainless ball by the neoprene tube.  As you can see my meter shows NADA.  Maybe copper is essential !!!

Offline tao

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Re: Disclosed: Peter Markovich and his 'essential' A.T.R.E.E.
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2007, 04:06:10 AM »
I contacted the company, going to buy a 4" copper sphere with a 1/2" hole. I will most likely hear from them again tomorrow, and then they have to fab it.

I plan on then ordering a 1/2" OD Copper ROD, 24" long.

This also would satisfy the 1/6th semi-requirement, that being that the diameter of the sphere is about 1/6th the height of the conversion element.

This should be sufficient for my tests and to satisfy what Markovich laid out in his Disclosure Document.




Vince,

You have two coils on your setup right, counter wound? Just checking. I would also say that copper, or silver or gold, is needed.