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gaby de wilde

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #585 on: October 28, 2007, 11:42:09 PM »
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gaby de wilde

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #586 on: October 28, 2007, 11:47:48 PM »
Let me put my understanding of Gaby's Improvement in pictorial form.

A = rotating inner cylinder in the clockwise direction
B = non-rotating ring of coils that can be switched on and off
C = non-rotating ring of permanent magnets suggested by Gaby.

With the magnetic poles as shown, if the coil in B has current off, the permanent magnet in C will induce a S pole (in coil at B) facing the rotating magnets in A.  This effectively causes an attraction with the next coming permanent magnet in A (which is beneficial) causing further force to turn the cylinder A in the clockwise direction.

The permanent magnet in C does not draw any current.  Gaby has improved the efficiency of the device!

This multiple ring concept is getting closer to the John Searl device.  Let us have more of these brilliant ideas.

Lawrence Tseung
Gaby?s brilliant ideas Lead Out resonance from equally brilliant minds.


http://www.metacafe.com/watch/665396/how_increase_speed_of_electric_motor/
How Increase Speed Of Electric Motor Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cevznlUzmK0&eurl=http://forum.go-here.nl/viewtopic.php?t=5
YouTube - second motor in testing

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory - pulse motors
« Reply #587 on: October 29, 2007, 12:54:17 AM »
I think this is (just) a good way to illustrate the concept.

(http://img.go-here.nl/pulse-forever.png)

The other side of the coil can also be used. The force is available so it's wasteful not to use it.

(http://img.go-here.nl/pulse-twin-gate.png)

This does not pull the rotor parallel to it's rim. So I've designed this sandwich.

(http://img.go-here.nl/pulse-twin-gate-sandwich.png)

The idea is the spin the top and the bottom disks in opposite direction (it would be interesting to speculate on spinning the center disk also)

By spinning both disks in opposite direction the forces on the wheel point round the rim and those working on the frame cancel out.

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #588 on: October 31, 2007, 02:56:56 PM »
Gaby,

There were indeed stories of perpetual motion machines in China since ancient times.

I'm so happy I asked about this....

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There are a few that I could quote on top of my head:

(1) The 15 bucket water wheel.  七上八落的水車  This water wheel was supposed to have 7 buckets going up and 8 coming down.  This water wheel could raise water up from a lake or pond with no water movement.  The details of the construction was lost but I am confident that it could be reproduced.  I did the first draft of a possible design using the Lee-Tseung theory on the train from Beijing back to Hong Kong in 2006.

Some days ago I dream of a device with buckets sliding over the arms.  The 7 buckets swing while going upwards the 8 hang still while going down. There is something else going on in the picture. I'm sure I will envision the whole apparatus some time soon.  :)

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(2) The wooden ox and the floating horse.  三國時代的木牛流馬 These devices were supposed to be produced during the war periods of the Three Kingdom.  The wheels were not circular.  They were unbalanced wheels!  I am confident that they could be reproduced.  They were slow even though that they moved "automatically" with some guidance.  The Lee-Tseung theory indeed could be used to help to recreate these devices.

oh, I'm laughing my ass off reading the pages about this. From here

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Even if their was some truth to it, its still very exgrated in the book. It was said if you twisted the tounges a certian way they wouldn't move, twisted them another and they would. This supossivly made it so if the oxen were going to be captured Shu would just twist their tongues and run, so the enemy couldn't use them.

ok, 1) The enemy didn't know how to use the devices.

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The wooden ox, like many other things in the novel, is much exagerated from history. The simple reason why a wooden ox cannot operate is because it has no source of motion. In the book it is described that the wooden ox can move on its own, which is propostrous from a physical stand point, since where does it get the energy needed to move?

2) physics without evidence again.

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The author was selling out on Zhuge Liang's reputation as an inventor. He did in fact invent a few things, such as the Kong Ming Light (hot air balloon, used for signalling), the Kong Ming Crossbow (rapid fire), the Bed Ballista, etc. However, a lot of the weapons he supposedly used against the Southern Barbarians and the Wei were made up as well.

So he invented the rapid fire ballista, the hot air balloon and the gravity motor.  some quack eh?

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Well, the offfical histories record that Zu Chongzhi, a scientific genius of the 5th century, reconstructed Zhuge Liang's wooden ox. So it must have existed in some form. The normal wheelbarrow was too common at that time to be such a big deal, so perhaps it was an improved kind of wheelbarrow. That's the theory that is most widely supported in the academic world, anyway.

debunk working replications?

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Zu was born in Jiankang. His family had historically been involved in astronomy research, and from childhood Zu was exposed to both astronomy and mathematics. When he was only a youth his talent earned him much repute. When Emperor Xiaowu of Liu Song heard of him, he was sent to an Academy, the Hualin Xuesheng (華林學省), and later at the Imperial Nanjing University (Zongmingguan) to perform research.

So, he is recorded as a genious of noteworthy magnitude. This is overunity.com here he must be called a quack. Right kids? He just lied about his replcation.  He must have! Physics doesn't allow for any rational reasoning. It demands we label things as quackery.

Then a poster says:

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This isn't a modern invention btw, it's been around for ages. A simple 2 or 4 legged mechanical device hinged at the center.

Perhaps what Zhuge Liang developed was what is now called "Passive-dynamic walkers"?

I saw simple toy models of these in Japan, supposedly traditional children's toys.

oh, like this you mean?

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~shc/movies/2WalksAngle.mpg
2WalksAngle.mpg (video/mpeg Object)

hahahahaha

(http://paper.sznews.com/images/n/pic_72410.jpg)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zu_Chongzhi
Zu Chongzhi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://groups.csail.mit.edu/locomotion/publications/flamingo05.pdf
flamingo05.pdf (application/pdf Object)

http://ruina.tam.cornell.edu/research/topics/locomotion_and_robotics/history.htm
History of Passive Dynamics & Toys

http://big5.xinhuanet.com/gate/big5/news.xinhuanet.com/st/2005-07/29/content_3281644.htm
老木匠自比諸葛亮 耗時4年再現木牛流馬(圖)

amazing!

Dutch warlord Theo Jansen builds an impressive war ox

http://www.glumbert.com/media/kineticsculpture
glumbert - Kinetic Sculpture

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(3) There are over 60 China Patents or Applications related to perpetual motions if you do a patent search using the Chinese Characters of Perpetual Motion Machine 永動機.  Some other China Patents did not use the term 永動機 but from their descriptions, it was obvious that they implied Perpetual Motion.

(4) Lee Cheung Kin and I appeared in front of the China Patent Office to explain our Lee-Tseung theory.  We got good reception (and recommendation to visit Tsing Hua University).  I am confident that the China Patent Office has extremely competent Scientists who can follow our explanations.

(5) The recent meeting with the top research institutes confirmed my belief.  China just sent its Moon Exploration Rocket this evening (live on the 6:00pm News in Hong Kong).  One of their representatives told us that they had strong interest in our technology.  (I hope China will send a Flying Saucer to the Moon first.)

Lawrence Tseung
The many know-it-all  debunkers in the West Lead Out high roadblocks for the Cosmic Energy Developers.

A good heart leads out positive memories.

Hope you are doing ok Lawrence...


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« Reply #589 on: November 01, 2007, 10:29:58 AM »
Since I do not reply to private email requests, the post is answered here:

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Dear Sir; I'm interested in trying to build a prototype.
Could you please send the AVSEQ02.DAT and a copy of the CD.  Thank you.
 
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Reference;

The prototypes in the videos show that we can indeed extract energy directly from Gravity without violating the Law of Conservation of Energy.  In particular, the file AVSEQ02.DAT was produced in February 2000.  Thus we have prototypes that support the theories and the claims in our PCT and China Patent Application.  You are welcome to freely copy and circulate the CD as copies of it were distributed to the Public at the 2006 China Venture Forum on April 6-8 in Shenzhen, China.  Please email ltseung@hotmail.com if you want to get a copy of the CD.

The CD has been sent via snake mail.  A condensed version of the Dr. Liang video (AVSEQO2.DAT) by Ms. Forverve Yuen is already available on this thread.

Please participate in this forum and share your expertise.



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« Reply #590 on: November 01, 2007, 08:29:45 PM »
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Thank You - I went to the link but pages and pages of discussion - and nothing very specific on this 225 HP Pulse Motor unit - does it exist? Is it your unit or from another China group? Will it ever be sold?

The original inventor of the 225 HP motor shown on youtube was from USA.  The story was that he and his team could not get investment from USA because he could not explain the source of energy.

A supposed Chinese Group invested many millions and got us (Lee-Tseung) to explain the source of energy and possible improvements.  We helped to get the Group to Tsing Hua University in China (the equivalent of MIT in USA) and fully explained the theory and technology.  Now many groups are working on variations and improvements of this technology.

The technology is essentially adding program control to the Newman, Bedini or Adams Pulse Motors.  The theory is the Pulsed Rotation leading out gravitational and electron motion energy as in the Lee-Tseung PCT patent information (PCT/IB2005/000138) published in July 2006.

The supposed Chinese Group turned out to be what I called the CIA or the Like.  They claimed to represent the Chinese Government but proved otherwise.  It became very political.  You should read the many posts for details.

The basic unit shown on youtube will not be sold, as it was only a scientific prototype.  It will not pass the consumer safety requirements.  The Chinese regulators demanded a six-month failure proof period before such "electricity generators" could be marketed.  The 225 HP Pulse Motor could easily electrocute a dog or a human being.


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« Reply #591 on: November 02, 2007, 04:02:03 AM »
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Thank You - I went to the link but pages and pages of discussion - and nothing very specific on this 225 HP Pulse Motor unit - does it exist? Is it your unit or from another China group? Will it ever be sold?

The original inventor of the 225 HP motor shown on youtube was from USA.  The story was that he and his team could not get investment from USA because he could not explain the source of energy.

Right, because American venture capitalists are not results-oriented and do not care about making infinite money off free energy, but instead demand scientific explanations, which they would likely not be able to understand anyway.

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #592 on: November 02, 2007, 07:03:25 AM »
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The 225 HP Pulse Motor could easily electrocute a dog or a human being.

Any 225 hp generator will kill a human if the wrong part is touched when it is running. In fact it needs a lot less than this.

If it will make your motor salable I will happily design a casing for it that will withstand all scrutiny by Chinese inspectors. But then again I would have thought there must be at least one engineer in China that can do the same. Couldn't you find him?

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« Reply #593 on: November 02, 2007, 08:35:46 AM »

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The original inventor of the 225 HP motor shown on youtube was from USA.  The story was that he and his team could not get investment from USA because he could not explain the source of energy.
You obviously don't know how VC works in the US. If they smell real money and potential, the sky is the limit. How many M$ does it take?
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A supposed Chinese Group invested many millions and got us (Lee-Tseung) to explain the source of energy and possible improvements.  We helped to get the Group to Tsing Hua University in China (the equivalent of MIT in USA) and fully explained the theory and technology.  Now many groups are working on variations and improvements of this technology.
Dear me, without the Lee-Tseung pair to save the world, we truly are doomed!
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The technology is essentially adding program control to the Newman, Bedini or Adams Pulse Motors.  The theory is the Pulsed Rotation leading out gravitational and electron motion energy as in the Lee-Tseung PCT patent information (PCT/IB2005/000138) published in July 2006.
From what I have seen of your patent application, the USPTO will consider the whole application JUNK!

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The supposed Chinese Group turned out to be what I called the CIA or the Like.  They claimed to represent the Chinese Government but proved otherwise.  It became very political.  You should read the many posts for details.
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Again, you must have been so naive or so VERY stupid. So, these American Chinese CIA spies spoke English with Chinese accents? Huh?

Mr. Tseung, you really should spend more time with your grandchildren instead of disgracing yourself on this forum. You need to save some face. There is not much time left!

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« Reply #594 on: November 02, 2007, 08:59:49 AM »
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A supposed Chinese Group invested many millions and got us (Lee-Tseung) to explain the source of energy and possible improvements.  We helped to get the Group to Tsing Hua University in China (the equivalent of MIT in USA) and fully explained the theory and technology.  Now many groups are working on variations and improvements of this technology.


So let me get this straight, the CIA (or the Like!) spent millions of dollars to get you to publicly explain your theory at a prestigious Chinese university.  I see some problems with this story.  First, why does it take millions of dollars to arrange a talk?  Second, I thought your whole criticism of the CIA or the Like is that they suppress free energy technology?  Why would they have you "fully explain" the theory in such a public forum?  Why not use the money they invested to force everyone concerned to sign non-disclosure agreements.

I do not understand why you are not friends with the CIA or the Like after this experience.  Money was invested in free energy technology, and not only that, it was open sourced!  Hurray for the CIA or the Like!!

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« Reply #595 on: November 02, 2007, 01:42:55 PM »
American venture capitalists are not results-oriented and do not care about making infinite money off free energy, but instead demand scientific explanations, which they would likely not be able to understand anyway.

ok, there are billions in some fund for alternative energy research. Could you point me to the Meyer reproduction? Or was there no room for this in the budget? It seems to me the budget is more then big enough? You would normally make up awfully insulting excuses.

Lets skip the pathetic part.

Where is the GEET plasma reactor?

Maybe the Papp noble gass engine?

Have the invented a single fuel saving device for any of those billions?

Sure a few solar panels is nice, the budget was big enough to build enormous solar parks.

The money is gone, where are the results if I may ask?

Didn't Mr Bedini have a challenge for scientists of this kind?

Not 200 bucks in the billions worth a budget?

Something small and simple as that? We don't have a few hours?

Maybe those researchers can spend their private time building this motor?

To much to ask again?

We have to rely on mythbusters to do our science?

Millions and millions got spend, you would think they whould have shown at least some interest in david hamel's devices?

Why no interest for john searl's work?

I know what is going on. Keeping up appearance is more important as the actual work! That's what's happening.

Like a pig with lipstick. ROFL

Sure people had to kill Yull Brown, it isn't a very good excuse to pretend the technology was not there. The first and last thing NASA had to say about it was that he would blow up the entire base if he would swhich on the machine. What is that for pathetic kind of science you wonder?

They get paid to do research, you don't pay them for results. If they have results they get fired! ROFL!!

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/Factuurexpress?p=6491
tricks, tips, tutorials, pictures and words - Electromagnetic Levitation disclosure and demonstration

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #596 on: November 02, 2007, 02:36:20 PM »
American venture capitalists are not results-oriented and do not care about making infinite money off free energy, but instead demand scientific explanations, which they would likely not be able to understand anyway.

ok, there are billions in some fund for alternative energy research. Could you point me to the Meyer reproduction? Or was there no room for this in the budget? It seems to me the budget is more then big enough? You would normally make up awfully insulting excuses.

Lets skip the pathetic part.

Where is the GEET plasma reactor?

Maybe the Papp noble gass engine?

Have the invented a single fuel saving device for any of those billions?

Sure a few solar panels is nice, the budget was big enough to build enormous solar parks.

The money is gone, where are the results if I may ask?

Didn't Mr Bedini have a challenge for scientists of this kind?

Not 200 bucks in the billions worth a budget?

Something small and simple as that? We don't have a few hours?

Maybe those researchers can spend their private time building this motor?

To much to ask again?

We have to rely on mythbusters to do our science?

Millions and millions got spend, you would think they whould have shown at least some interest in david hamel's devices?

Why no interest for john searl's work?

I know what is going on. Keeping up appearance is more important as the actual work! That's what's happening.

Like a pig with lipstick. ROFL

Sure people had to kill Yull Brown, it isn't a very good excuse to pretend the technology was not there. The first and last thing NASA had to say about it was that he would blow up the entire base if he would swhich on the machine. What is that for pathetic kind of science you wonder?

They get paid to do research, you don't pay them for results. If they have results they get fired! ROFL!!

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/Factuurexpress?p=6491
tricks, tips, tutorials, pictures and words - Electromagnetic Levitation disclosure and demonstration

I am not talking about money for pie in the sky research.  No VC is going to give money for that.  I am talking about money for working technology.  Had there really been a 225 HP motor that worked, there should have been no trouble securing funding.  My point is that the 225 HP motor is fiction.

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #597 on: November 02, 2007, 09:17:06 PM »
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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #598 on: November 03, 2007, 12:17:53 AM »
Gaby,

What do you think about this AERO organization?

Do you think that they are real?

Let us discuss which machine would apply and likely to win.  That would be much more constructive than playing word games.

I can always back up the theoretical side  of the competition with the Lee-Tseung theory.  So far, our theory can back up Newman, Bedini, Adams, Liang, Chao, 225 HP, Milkovic, Tsing Hua, TPU etc.

*** Any Machine  that oscillates, vibrates, rotates, have flux changes.  Immersed in gravitational or electron motion fields. Generates periodic forces (pulses). at appropriate times. ***

Do you want to form a team  and build a prototype to enter the competition?  You have the knowledge.  I am happy to back you up with no need for any compensation.

Lawrence Tseung
Competition with prize money Leads Out the desire to act.

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« Reply #599 on: November 03, 2007, 05:55:44 AM »
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AERO CEO Steven M. Greer, M.D.
Dr. Greer is a lifetime member of Alpha Omega Alpha, the nation's most prestigious medical honor society. Dr. Greer is an emergency physician and former chairman of the Department of Emergency Medicine at Caldwell Memorial Hospital in North Carolina.

On May 9, 2001, Dr. Greer presided over The Disclosure Project Press Conference from the National Press Club in Washington, DC. Over 20 military, government, intelligence, and corporate witnesses presented compelling testimony regarding the existence of advanced energy and propulsion technologies sequestered in classified government black operations projects. Over 1 billion people heard of the press conference through webcast and subsequent media coverage on BBC, CNN, CNN worldwide, Voice of America, Pravda, Chinese media, and media outlets throughout Latin America. The webcast had 250,000 people waiting on line -- the largest webcast in the history of the National Press Club.

Dr. Greer has released his new book--Disclosure: Military and Government Witnesses reveal the Greatest Secrets in Modern History. This book contains explosive testimony from over five dozen military, government, intelligence, and corporate witnesses with insightful commentary by Dr. Greer.

Dr. Greer has met with and provided briefings for senior members of government, military, and intelligence operations in the United States and around the world, including senior CIA officials, Joint Chiefs of Staff, White House staff, senior members of Congress and congressional committees, senior United Nations leadership, and diplomats and senior military officials in the United Kingdom and Europe.

Dr. Greer has been seen and heard by millions worldwide on shows such as The Larry King Show, CBS, the BBC, NTV in Japan, and has made dozens of radio and television appearances. He has addressed tens of thousands of people live at conferences and lectures around the world, including the international convention for MENSA, The Institute of Noetic Sciences Board of Directors, and the Sierra Club.

Dr. Greer is married. He and his wife have four daughters and reside in the Charlottesville, Virginia area.

It is clear that AERO has close ties with the US Government.  It is great that we do not have to deal with CIA or the Like in private.  We shall have everything in the Open to Benefit  the World.

Lawrence Tseung
Aero Competition Leads Out Openness from the US Government.