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Offline ltseung888

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #210 on: August 26, 2007, 04:51:28 PM »
I went to the Watoto Youth Concert this morning and was deeply touched.  The children were from Uganda.  They lost one or both parents because of AIDS.  They found hope in the Watoto organization.
The website is http://www.watoo.com/.

There is a plan for me in my old age.  The plan is to give the younger generation hope and future.   Lee and I wanted to benefit the World.  The Concert this morning gave new purpose and urgency.  We can indeed benefit the World with our Lead-Out Theory.  The many Over Unity Inventors now do not need to worry about the Law of Conservation of Energy Roadblock.

We know that we have to introduce the New Order to the World.  The President of USA cannot do it.  The Pope cannot do it.  The Cosmic Energy developers can do it.  For details of the New Order, see
http://forum.go-here.nl/viewtopic.php?t=13


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« Reply #211 on: August 27, 2007, 09:23:47 AM »
I uploaded the Dr. Liang Car Video. ;D

http://rapidshare.com/files/51541711/avseq016740-13405_1.WMV

The video consisted of the following:

1.It was done on 28 October, 2003 in the presence of many Chinese officials and scientists.

2.The hoot of the car was opened and the engine consisting of a starting battery and a pulsed rotated cylinder could be seen.

3.A belt is connected to the central shaft. This shaft rotated to provide power.

4.The controlling electronics are at the back of the car.

5.The car was first jacked up so that the engine could be shown rotating without the car moving.

6.The car had a very simple control. It could either go forward or backward. There were no gears to shift.

7.The visitors were invited to sit in the car and drove around the flat surface.

8.This video must not be used for investment purposes. It is straightly for scientific discussion  only.

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« Reply #212 on: August 27, 2007, 10:47:45 AM »
I have also uploaded the electrical energy magnifier from TsingHua University. :D

http://rapidshare.com/files/51563146/tsinghua7846-8069.mpg.html

1. The video was done on 4 January 1996.

2. The electrical input was magnified 30 times.

3. The input energy was A.C. power from the local power company. The power was fed to a starting motor. The starting motor is then connected via a belt arrangement to the energy magnifier.

4. The energy magnifier consisted of three cylinders.(The Chas Campbell Device from Australia at three wheels.)

5.The output energy was used to support the entire factory.

6.No output energy was fed back to input as that mechanism had not been perfected.

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« Reply #212 on: August 27, 2007, 10:47:45 AM »
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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #213 on: August 27, 2007, 02:33:27 PM »
Great footage, thanks for the update.

They seem awfully exited. (I wont ask you to translate  :D )

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #214 on: August 28, 2007, 05:26:20 AM »
We already explained its workings via the Lee-Tseung Theory.  Thus it can be another confirmation of the Lee-Tseung Theory in USA!

So the Newman machine will work so long as it sits on an upside-down stool atop a bowl of water?

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #215 on: August 28, 2007, 09:12:16 AM »
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Tseung:... He also mentioned that your name and mine are being nominated to receive the Nobel Prize and other similar ones."

Lee: "With that, I can take any insult."


As far as I am aware of, Nobel prizes have never been awarded to delusionist!

It's not the 'insults' you need to worry about. You need to see a psychiatrist.

It's pretty obvious you can't tell reality from make-believe!

cheers
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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #216 on: August 28, 2007, 09:53:24 AM »
Two huge useless movies.
Such a waste of bandwidth!

One movie is presumably showing an electric car with the batteries in the trunk. If that huge block of so-called ?electronics? does not contain batteries then it surely contains another kind of chemical-electrical converter of some sort. Two huge fans are needed to cool it. And the motor in front is a regular 3-phase one. Electronics are in the box near-by, in the front (not in the back). Probably a dc-ac three phase converter.

The other movie is showing an electric motor turning a machine. Probably an ordinary electric generator under various tests.


What?s the excitement there about, anyway?
Well, in the first movie it may be because of the ?electric nature? of the car. Remember that electric cars are relatively new.
In the second movie, there is not much of an excitement at all.

The question is what the excitement here is about?!

?Lack of solid arguments leads out more useless movies.?

Have a nice day everyone,
Tinu

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #217 on: August 29, 2007, 07:46:14 AM »
Dear tinu,shruggedatlas,and others

Thanks for your comments. However, I do not agree with what you are saying.
Firstly, you said that they were two useless movies. The inventors poured in sweat and blood to invent. You have not played with actual inventions. If you were one of the patent evaluators or one of the participating professors at Tsinghua University or Beijing University, you would have a different prospective.

I understand why you think it is just an empty talk. When an invention is not a product yet, there will be speculations. Some of these inventions may even be regarded as fairytales.

Let us take the example of going to the moon. In China, there was a fairytale about a beautiful lady(常娥). She ate the forever-living pill of her emperor husband. She had double dosage and became light and rose to the moon. This is also the origination of Mid- Autumn Festival which will come up a few weeks. ;D In Greek Mythology, Icaria flew too close to the Sun and his wax wings melted. It was usually assumed that flying to the moon was impossible.

Even in the 20th century after the inventions of the airplanes, some scientists regarded going to the moon as not possible. They applied the Newtonian Physics on a single stage rocket. Now we know that it is possible with multi- stage rockets.

We can compare the Cosmic Energy Machines with going to the moon. I believe in the Cosmic Energy Machines because:

1. I have already done an experiment related to extracting Cosmic Energy. In this experiment, I proved that magnetic energy could be extracted in the same way as gravitational energy. It is a very simple experiment, but it confirms a very important theory. This is the replacement of the simple pendulum with the magnetic pendulum.

2. The Lee- Tseung Theory uses the? boat in clam water and a good sunshine? scenario. It clearly shows that Cosmic Energy does not violate the law of conservation of energy.   

3. There is so much evidence to support the theory. Just like you, I didn?t believe the Cosmic Energy Machines initially. However, the more I understand the theory, the more convinced I become.

4.I am in the better position than you because I can read and write Chinese. I have searched the China patent database. I have the 180 pages document from Dr. Liang Xingren. I have the unedited videos. I have a copy of the 2006 China Venture Capital Forum document in front of me. In this Official document, the Cosmic Energy Machine was ranked as number one. I also have the pictures of Lee- Tseung at Tsinghua University.

5.If the top professor at Tsinghua University accepted the theory and made Lee- Tseung ?Wang guest lecturers, I took the theory seriously. I did the mathematics multiple times. I explained the theory and the maths to my many friends. I have sent many emails to academic and economic institutions. 

6. I am sure the products will be out shortly. I shall have the privilege of seeing the early prototypes as a helper of Tseung. When the products come out and generate electricity in front of the world, more people will be convinced. When you buy one in your house, and never pay electricity bills again, you will be convinced too.

 ;D :D ;) :)
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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #218 on: August 29, 2007, 08:00:06 AM »
Dear tinu,shruggedatlas,and others

Thanks for your comments. However, I do not agree for what you are saying.
Firstly, you said that they were two useless movies. The inventors poured in sweat and blood to invent. You have not played with actual inventions. If you were one of the patent evaluators or one of the participating professors at Tsinghua University or Beijing University, you would have a different prospective.

I understand why you think it is just an empty talk. When an invention is not a product yet, there will be speculations. Some of these inventions may even be regarded as fairytales.

Let us take the example of going to the moon. In China, there was a fairytale about a beautiful lady(常娥). She ate the forever-living pill of her emperor husband. She had double dosage and became light and rose to the moon. This is also the origination of Mid- Autumn Festival which will come up a few weeks. ;D In Greek Mythology, Icaria flew too close to the Sun and his wax wings melted. It was usually assumed that flying to the moon was impossible.

Even in the 20th century after the inventions of the airplanes, some scientists regarded going to the moon as not possible. They applied the Newtonian Physics on a single stage rocket. Now we know that it is possible with multi- stage rockets.

We can compare the Cosmic Energy Machines with going to the moon. I believe in the Cosmic Energy Machines because:

1. I have already done an experiment related to extracting Cosmic Energy. In this experiment, I proved that magnetic energy could be extracted in the same way as gravitational energy. It is a very simple experiment, but it confirms a very important theory. This is the replacement of the simple pendulum with the magnetic pendulum.

2. The Lee- Tseung Theory uses the? boat in clam water and a good sunshine? scenario. It clearly shows that Cosmic Energy does not violate the law of conservation of energy.   

3. There is so much evidence to support the theory. Just like you, I didn?t believe the Cosmic Energy Machines initially. However, the more I understand the theory, the more convinced I become.

4.I am in the better position than you because I can read and write Chinese. I have searched the China patent database. I have the 180 pages document from Dr. Liang Xingren. I have the unedited videos. I have a copy of the 2006 China Venture Capital Forum document in front of me. In this Official document, the Cosmic Energy Machine was ranked as number one. I also have the pictures of Lee- Tseung at Tsinghua University.

5.If the top professor at Tsinghua University accepted the theory and made Lee- Tseung ?Wang guest lecturers, I took the theory seriously. I did the mathematics multiple times. I explained the theory and the maths to my many friends. I have sent many emails to academic and economic institutions. 

6. I am sure the products will be out shortly. I have the privilege of seeing the early prototypes as a helper of Tseung. When the products come out and generate electricity in front of the world, more people will be convinced. When you buy one in your house, and never pay electricity bills again, you will be convinced too.

 ;D :D ;) :)

Thank you Forever, for you continued help in providing information.  From the videos, it is not easy to determine what is actually being presented, so it will be hard for people on this forum to accept without more detail concerning each component shown as part of the motors. 

If you are correct about products being released soon, then there will be proof soon enough. 

Regards,
jeffc

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #219 on: August 30, 2007, 02:06:04 AM »
Firstly, you said that they were two useless movies. The inventors poured in sweat and blood to invent. You have not played with actual inventions. If you were one of the patent evaluators or one of the participating professors at Tsinghua University or Beijing University, you would have a different prospective.

Sorry, but the videos are useless.  Neither one shows any evidence of a closed loop.  This is the whole problem with these inventions.  They claim on paper they are overunity, but when you actually try to use the energy output as the input, some "engineering problem" occurs.  Gee, is the engineering problem related the fact that there simply is not enough output to be used as input?

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Let us take the example of going to the moon. In China, there was a fairytale about a beautiful lady(常娥). She ate the forever-living pill of her emperor husband. She had double dosage and became light and rose to the moon. This is also the origination of Mid- Autumn Festival which will come up a few weeks. ;D In Greek Mythology, Icaria flew too close to the Sun and his wax wings melted. It was usually assumed that flying to the moon was impossible.

I cringe at the use of an Internet acronym, but it is so appropriate here.  WTF?  You are talking about fairy tales.  Not all fairy tales come true.  Going to the moon is possible, yes.  But what about Alladin and the magic lamp?  Do you think if we all work and research enough, we can make a magic lamp that contains a genie that will grant us wishes?

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I believe in the Cosmic Energy Machines because:

1. I have already done an experiment related to extracting Cosmic Energy. In this experiment, I proved that magnetic energy could be extracted in the same way as gravitational energy. It is a very simple experiment, but it confirms a very important theory. This is the replacement of the simple pendulum with the magnetic pendulum.

To date, no one has extracted gravitational energy to produce a power generator.  Yes, you can drop something, and it will fall, and thereby convert its potential energy to kinetic.  But it is a one time deal, and invariably, it takes more energy to lift the object back than what was generated, so no go on the overunity.  If magentism is no better than gravity, this is not of itself promising.

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2. The Lee- Tseung Theory uses the? boat in clam water and a good sunshine? scenario. It clearly shows that Cosmic Energy does not violate the law of conservation of energy.   

The boat in calm water and good sunshine is an analogy, that is all.  Yes, if you had a solar generator, you could use it to power the boat.  However, you have not shown how gravitational energy can be captured in the same manner as solar energy, and until that happens, the boat scenario is an analogy that does not apply.  I can make up any number of analogies to contradict your analogy, and until one of use proves that a particular analogy actually applies, none of them are relevant.

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4.I am in the better position than you because I can read and write Chinese. I have searched the China patent database. I have the 180 pages document from Dr. Liang Xingren. I have the unedited videos. I have a copy of the 2006 China Venture Capital Forum document in front of me. In this Official document, the Cosmic Energy Machine was ranked as number one. I also have the pictures of Lee- Tseung at Tsinghua University.

True, you have us at a disadvantage there, with your knowledge of Chinese.  However, I read your translations.  These describe the invention in such vague terms, there is no way to test the theory.  The patent refers to ICs which may or may not exist.  Even if they do exist, there is no evidence that they create overunity.  To the extent the ICs can be used toggle magnetic fields, they will probably consume more energy than they create through the rotation of whatever doohicky they act on.  I admit I may be wrong about this last bit, but I think we all agree that the burden is on the inventor to show overunity.

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6. I am sure the products will be out shortly. I shall have the privilege of seeing the early prototypes as a helper of Tseung. When the products come out and generate electricity in front of the world, more people will be convinced. When you buy one in your house, and never pay electricity bills again, you will be convinced too.

I agree with you that proof is in the pudding, and I will be the first to eat crow if this happens.  However, your fervent belief, without something as basic as a video of a working prototype, is not convincing.

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« Reply #220 on: August 30, 2007, 02:23:11 AM »
G'day all,

Even if there was a convincing video, what would that prove? That Godzilla is real?

Let us have some technical drawings of a device, sufficiently detailled to allow replication and then, and only then, can we be certain it is not smoke and mirrors.

Hans von Lieven giggles and shakes his head.

Exit stage left :-)

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« Reply #221 on: August 30, 2007, 03:06:17 AM »
G'day all,

Even if there was a convincing video, what would that prove? That Godzilla is real?

Let us have some technical drawings of a device, sufficiently detailled to allow replication and then, and only then, can we be certain it is not smoke and mirrors.

Hans von Lieven giggles and shakes his head.

Exit stage left :-)

As Jeffc and Forever suggested, the best strategy is to have actual products on the Market.  When the skeptic buys and uses the Cosmic Energy Electricity Generator and pays no electricity bills, the dust will settle down.  That is being done  by "huge resource" Companies.

My purpose in posting is not to try to convince the skeptics or the debunkers.  It was pointed out to me multiple times - that would be close to impossible without actual products.

The Wang device with theory and all components exposed would not do the job.  Why waste more time?

My purpose in posting is:

(1) Convince the Chinese Government  to take a look at the working prototypes. (We succeeded in the case of Wang.)

(2) Promote the Lee-Tseung theory to the Over Unity Developers.  They do not need to worry about the COE Roadblock anymore.

(3) Have material ready for the International Reporters  when ANY of the Over Unity Inventions is confirmed outside China. 

(4) We are in touch with inventors such as Joseph Newman, Milkovic, Liang, Chao etc.  Their success is our success and vice versa.  We are working on the win-win  scenario.

(5) We want to benefit the World.  We want to give direction and hope to the younger generation, especially the African Nations suffering from the effect of AIDS.

(6) We do not just talk technical.  We also advocate the New Order.  Please see:
http://forum.go-here.nl/viewtopic.php?t=13

Lawrence Tseung
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« Reply #222 on: August 30, 2007, 03:29:05 AM »

(2) Promote the Lee-Tseung theory to the Over Unity Developers.  They do not need to worry about the COE Roadblock anymore.


This is a noble goal and probably the only one you could possibly accomplish by posting here, but as the poster above just pointed out, without detailed specifications, it is impossible to try the theory out, so your efforts at promotion are hitting a roadblock.

Moreover, I have a fundamental problem with your statement that there is no need to worry about violating the COE principle.  In the boat in calm water scenario, you analogize solar energy with gravitational energy, and thereby make the logical leap that if using solar energy does not violate the law of COE, then neither does using gravitational energy.

However, you ignore the key difference that Solar energy is not infinite, while gravity is.  As we all know, the sun gives off energy in the form of radiation, and this energy can be captured and used by us, and the reason the law of COE is not violated is that the sun's energy is slowly being depleted.  Are you therefore suggesting that by emitting gravity, the earth's matter is somehow being depleted?  And if so, isn't it inherently dangerous to use gravity as a power source?  What happens when we run out of gravity?

Luckily, based on everything we know about gravity, every piece of mass inherently projects a gravitational pull, just by the fact that it is mass.  And by projecting gravity, it is in no way losing its mass as result.  So being able to tap this infinite source of "energy" to actually produce excess power would violate the law of COE, and therefore the underlying principle of your theory is flawed.

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« Reply #223 on: August 30, 2007, 04:26:29 AM »

(2) Promote the Lee-Tseung theory to the Over Unity Developers.  They do not need to worry about the COE Roadblock anymore.


This is a noble goal and probably the only one you could possibly accomplish by posting here, but as the poster above just pointed out, without detailed specifications, it is impossible to try the theory out, so your efforts at promotion are hitting a roadblock.

Moreover, I have a fundamental problem with your statement that there is no need to worry about violating the COE principle.  In the boat in calm water scenario, you analogize solar energy with gravitational energy, and thereby make the logical leap that if using solar energy does not violate the law of COE, then neither does using gravitational energy.

However, you ignore the key difference that Solar energy is not infinite, while gravity is.  As we all know, the sun gives off energy in the form of radiation, and this energy can be captured and used by us, and the reason the law of COE is not violated is that the sun's energy is slowly being depleted.  Are you therefore suggesting that by emitting gravity, the earth's matter is somehow being depleted?  And if so, isn't it inherently dangerous to use gravity as a power source?  What happens when we run out of gravity?

Luckily, based on everything we know about gravity, every piece of mass inherently projects a gravitational pull, just by the fact that it is mass.  And by projecting gravity, it is in no way losing its mass as result.  So being able to tap this infinite source of "energy" to actually produce excess power would violate the law of COE, and therefore the underlying principle of your theory is flawed.

Great, this gives a chance for me to reproduce one of the discussions with a Member of the Chinese Academy of Science.

Member A: "Will the gravitational energy or the electron motion energy be exhausted if we keep using them?"

Lee: "Gravitational Attraction exists whenever there is mass.  We are being pulled in multiple directions by various masses.  These masses include the Earth, the Moon, the Sun, the Stars and even you and I.  If you move, the force of attraction between you and I actually does work.  Work = Force x Displacement.  Work requires Energy. In other words, we are exchanging gravitational energy constantly with our surroundings."

Member A: "I accept that we are immersed in gravitational fields.  I also accept that we are having constant exchange of gravitational energy due to movement of near and distant masses.  These are Newtonian Physics accepted by almost all Physicists.  However, my question is whether such gravitational energy is theoretically infinite?  Will heavy and constant use of such energy exhaust this energy source?"

Tseung: "This leads to the bigger picture of the entire Universe.  We know that there are Black Holes  that attract masses and light.  We know that there is the Big Bang  theory that explains the expanding universe.  We also believe that some scientists already proposed a non-steady state Universe.  There are multiple Black Holes and multiple Bangs.  Mass and Energy are constantly being interchanged.  If the entire Universe is dynamic, I do not see an exhaustion of gravitational energy."

Member A: "How about electron motion energy?  You included magnetic, electric, electromagnetic energies as electron motion energies.  Gravitational Energy is attraction only.  Electron Motion Energy can be repulsion."

Tseung: "Unless electrons stop spinning and fall into the nucleus, there will be electron motion energy.  I do not think that you will deny that we are also immersed in magnetic, electrostatic, electromagnetic fields.  Sunlight is only one form of electromagnetic waves.  We have constant interchange with Sunlight and such electron motion energy."

Member A: "I have to admit that you do have logic.  I have seen the working prototypes of Liang and Wang.  I and my colleagues could not come up with a good theory.  Let me think more about it."

*** Many Forum members, including Stefan Hartmann, already observed over unity effects (e.g. his Newman Motor prototype produced 135% Output  from 100% input.) outside China.  My posts will give them encouragement.  I shall refine my TPU article shortly.  The TPU does not violate COE. ***

*** If you do not believe the Lee-Tseung Theory, you better come up with an alternative when any of the Over Unity Inventions are confirmed outside China.  There are multiple confirmations within China and the inventors with prototypes already got support.***

Lawrence Tseung
Working Prototypes Lead Out the need to re-examine established theory.

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« Reply #224 on: August 30, 2007, 05:05:21 AM »
I found the FAQ on Black Holes by Ted Bunn most educational.

http://cosmology.berkeley.edu/Education/BHfaq.html#q1

Regards,

Lawrence Tseung

 

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