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Offline Humbugger

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #90 on: August 11, 2007, 10:10:41 AM »
Dear Larry,

Quote:  "You have NOT seen a working Cosmic Energy Device yet.  Lee and I took apart and photographed every component of the Wang device.  That device rotated in front of 5 Chinese Officials on January 15, 2007 (We have the videos and posted them on Multiple Forums)."

This seems to acknowledge that no working machine exists to this day...why do you state elsewhere that many working overunity devices exist?  I/m confused.

Also, a google search does not reveal any video of a "Wang Shum Ho" motor.  Can you offer a link to these videos you have posted, please?  Thank you.

Humbugger

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #91 on: August 11, 2007, 02:28:07 PM »
Dear Larry,

Quote:  "You have NOT seen a working Cosmic Energy Device yet.  Lee and I took apart and photographed every component of the Wang device.  That device rotated in front of 5 Chinese Officials on January 15, 2007 (We have the videos and posted them on Multiple Forums)."

This seems to acknowledge that no working machine exists to this day...why do you state elsewhere that many working overunity devices exist?  I/m confused.

Also, a google search does not reveal any video of a "Wang Shum Ho" motor.  Can you offer a link to these videos you have posted, please?  Thank you.

Humbugger


This seems to acknowledge that no working machine exists to this day???

How can it seem to acknowledge that no working machine exists???  The Working Prototype rotated in front of the eyes of 5 Chinese Officials on January 15, 2007!!!!

Please see the video in the Wangdev.zip file
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2675.msg39266.html#msg39266

i076_211.mjp shows rotation with the ferro-liquid in place only.
i080_211.mjp shows rotation with both ferro-liquid + permanent magnets.

Make sure you read the description (Notes portion) file first:
http://www.energyfromair.com/beijing/wang3a.htm.

Understand the full background of the Wang Shum Ho Device.  Lee Cheung Kin and I took it apart and did the photographing.  Please do the suggested four-legged stool experiment.

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #92 on: August 11, 2007, 03:07:25 PM »
I do not understand what you mean when you emphatically tell someone that they "have NOT seen a working Cosmic Energy Device yet".  To me it can only mean two things:

1)  You know for certain that none exist, so no one could have seen one
or
2)  One or more exist but you have all of them totally within your control at all times and you know for certain that no one could ever see one without your knowing.

Is there a third meaning?

I watched the "videos" and had already read the "explanation" of the motor...they teach nothing, prove nothing and reveal nothing.  In hunting through your posts to find the zip file, I read Wang's bragging comments about his big 700 sqm villa and big job and his "let them wait" and "it is out of my control" (regarding when the 5kw unit will be available for sale) attitude.  He sounds like his success has really made him into what we call "a total jerk"...not someone who gives a damn about pollution and saving the world.

Let us hope he does not go the way of the poor fellow who was the chief of consumer product safety...executed so the government could save face!

So far, Mr. Tseung, I have followed every bit of information you have lead out and I know nothing more about the Wang motor/generator or your theories than when I started.  I think I am finished with the Larry Tseung story until you can show me something that makes some sense and teaches me something other than that the world is full of crazy people with huge egos and wild unsubstantiated claims.  Sorry!

Bah...Humbugger!


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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #93 on: August 11, 2007, 10:51:45 PM »
Interesting Toy ? Leads Out Gravitational Energy?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4uLPMGrMohc

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #94 on: August 12, 2007, 12:00:43 AM »
No, it really leads out thermal energy: http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=zEgiZPGKQ_Y ;D

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #95 on: August 12, 2007, 12:09:40 AM »
Interesting Toy ? Leads Out Gravitational Energy?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4uLPMGrMohc


Never. It is not enough.  ;)

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #96 on: August 12, 2007, 02:21:19 AM »
No, it really leads out thermal energy: http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=zEgiZPGKQ_Y ;D

Looks like the inventor could not take the heat. He produced much more heat himself - burning the device.

We have worked on the simple gravity motor for sometime. See
http://theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/newclaims/GravityMotor/gravity_motor.htm

The initial setup stopped rotating after 1 minute.  A few months work improved that to 30 minutes.  If the inventors know the theory, they will realize that we are tuning for resonance. 

Tuning for resonance is always a trickly undertaking.  It is like pushing the swing, pushing it at the wrong time (wrong frequency) will not get it to swing high.  At present, we do not know a scientific method to get there.  We used trial and error.

The coupling of two mechanical systems to complement each other is better.  Examples are the Milkovic pendulum and the Wang generator.

Lawrence Tseung
Not knowing the pain of hunting for resonance Leads Out many frustrated inventors.

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Offline shruggedatlas

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #97 on: August 12, 2007, 03:04:01 AM »

Make sure you read the description (Notes portion) file first:
http://www.energyfromair.com/beijing/wang3a.htm.


I read this description.  The part I found particularly comical is the example of the bowl and the upside-down stool.  Gee, when people put their right finger on it, it spins right.  With left fingers, it spins left.  Did you stop to think that it is the participants who impart the energy to the device - otherwise, why wouldn't it spin on its own?  If that device works so great, why isn't the nation of China being powered by upside down stools on top of bowls right now?

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #98 on: August 12, 2007, 06:04:52 AM »

Make sure you read the description (Notes portion) file first:
http://www.energyfromair.com/beijing/wang3a.htm.


I read this description.  The part I found particularly comical is the example of the bowl and the upside-down stool.  Gee, when people put their right finger on it, it spins right.  With left fingers, it spins left.  Did you stop to think that it is the participants who impart the energy to the device - otherwise, why wouldn't it spin on its own?  If that device works so great, why isn't the nation of China being powered by upside down stools on top of bowls right now?

I believe you laughed so hard that you might have failed to read the next part.
(1) Wang modified the bowl containing water to a dish containing ferro-liquid.
(2) When the ferro-liquid spins under an external rotating magnetic field, a vortex is formed.
(3) This vortex will spin the dish and the attached axle.  Furthermore, the vortex will hit the cover of the dish and the ferro-liquid is again randomized.
(4) The process starts from (2) again.
(5) This set up coupled with the rotating permanent magnet set up at the axle  will rotate forever.

The above was demonstrated in front of 5 Chinese Officials  on January 15, 2007.  The result was funding of RMB13 billion in June 2007. 

Be patient, you shall see the Cosmic Energy Machine products from China soon.  By the way, Professors from MIT, Harvard, etc. also saw the Wang demonstrations. 

As stated in one of my earlier posts - if you are not a top professor or not a billion dollar investor, you can still see the videos at present.  If you were one of the above, you might have seen the actual device (e.g. Bank of America).

The other group that knew all about it was the CIA or the Like.  We took them to Tsing Hua University in November 2006 mistaken them as representing the Chinese Government.  (We can be stupid too.)

Since we want to benefit the World, we do not mind disclosing what we know.  USA and Japan obviously knew about it.  We do not want the technology to be abused (like the Colonial Powers caused much suffering to the World). 

Lawrence Tseung
Enjoy your laughter - it will Lead Out Benefits to the World.

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #99 on: August 12, 2007, 08:28:42 AM »
Interesting Toy ? Leads Out Gravitational Energy?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4uLPMGrMohc


sorry but this thing does not exist any more
so it can not be a proof

can you replicate it ?

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #100 on: August 12, 2007, 09:54:19 AM »
Interesting Toy ? Leads Out Gravitational Energy?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4uLPMGrMohc


sorry but this thing does not exist any more
so it can not be a proof

can you replicate it ?


I was involved in the Sun et al experiments with the simple gravity motor  based on the following:

http://theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/newclaims/GravityMotor/gravity_motor.htm

Sun et al produced over 20 variations.  I have 3 in my house.  The initial wheel stopped rotating after 1 minute.  (The hammers did not hit the right spot - the rim).  We then improved via the following:

(1) Let the hammers hit the rim.
(2) Change the weight of the hammers.
(3) Vary the number and position of the hammers.
(4) Use falling steel balls inside tubes to replace the hammers.
(5) Use falling powder inside tubes to replace the hammers.

Ms. Forever Yuen helped me to increase the rotation time for one of the variations in my house to 20 minutes.  Sun et al improved it further with magnets.  With an arrangement similar to the Minato Wheel - with hand movement controlling the angle and position of the magnets, he could get the wheel to rotate forever.  (That was regarded as cheating as energy can be supplied by the hand movement.)

Sun et al then placed the wheel in the vertical position and could achieve a rotational time of 30 minutes.  (A big improvement compared with the 1 minute attempt.)  As a comparison, the wheel rotating by itself without the magnetic interaction would stop after 10-13 minutes.

We learned the very difficult task of resonance tuning.  A seemingly insignificant change could affect the result considerably.  For example, we swapped two magnets brought from the same shop.  The improvement jumped over 30%.  (At this time, we did not have equipment to check the strength of the individual magnets.)

The "wood hitting wheel" is similar in concept to the above simple gravity wheel.  It used pulsed rotation. We believe much tuning is required to get the best result.  I do not do prototypes myself.  Sun et al may do it at their spare time in their machine shop.  Sun et al are working on a primitive form of the 225 HP Pulse Motor at present.

We may have some surprises as Sun et al are planning to produce "platform toys".

Unlike many of you, I am 100% confident in my Lee-Tseung Theory.  Lee and I played with at least 4 working Cosmic Energy Machine prototypes  - by other inventors such as Wang, Ting, Liang and Chao.

Lawrence Tseung
Experience with working prototypes Leads Out supreme confidence.

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #101 on: August 12, 2007, 12:32:44 PM »
Look at the following information related to the Chas Campbell Machine.

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-5520200869600922360

http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/ChasCampbell.htm

The Chas Campbell Machine Leads Out gravitational energy similar to the Electricity Magnifier at Tsing Hua University.  See slide 16 of
http://www.energyfromair.com/beijing/taiwan2a.htm

The Tsing Hua University Electrcitiy Magnifier can magnifier input 30 times via three rotating cylinder.  The Chas Campbell Machine claims to magnify input 10 times at present.  Campbell uses flywheels with weight concentrated at the rim.  He could increase the efficiency by using cylinders.

I believe members of this forum are in touch with him in Australia.  It is another application of the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory.  (We used it on the Tsing Hua device.)

Lawrence Tseung
Chas Campbell device Leads Out another confirmation of the Lee-Tseung Theory.
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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #102 on: August 12, 2007, 04:10:48 PM »
Your ideas and inventions are very intriguing, but it is impossible
to get proper copies of your patents in English. Your patent
number 99126283.2 was not found by the Chinese web site.
Please can you provide an English version of the description
and claims, along with drawings.

I would urge you to file with the EPO as well if you want to
make the most of the system.

Paul.

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #103 on: August 12, 2007, 06:14:57 PM »
Look at the following information related to the Chas Campbell Machine.

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-5520200869600922360


Mr. Tseung, is there any perpetual motion machine that you are actually skeptical of?  You seem to accept any old crap posted on the Internet as the real thing.  No one will take you seriously, especially in this field, which is full of fraudsters, if you continue to do this.  Having a 500 post discussion with your alter egos on the Steorn forum does not help either.

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #104 on: August 12, 2007, 11:17:16 PM »
Your ideas and inventions are very intriguing, but it is impossible
to get proper copies of your patents in English. Your patent
number 99126283.2 was not found by the Chinese web site.
Please can you provide an English version of the description
and claims, along with drawings.

I would urge you to file with the EPO as well if you want to
make the most of the system.

Paul.

I shall first put the official information in Chinese.  The website is:
http://search.sipo.gov.cn/sipo/zljs/hyjs-yx-new.jsp?recid=CN99126283.2&leixin=fmzl&title=磁能发电机&ipc=H02N11/00

The inventor is: 宋添发
The abstract is:

本发明提供一种利用永磁体作为能源的磁能发电机,包括主轴、换向器、机壳和定子转子组,换向器位于主轴的一端,其它部分位于主轴的另一端,机壳内设有至少两层定子转子组,每层定子转子组包括机壳内层套、隔层板、定子、转子、转子磁块和主轴定位套,定子上绕有不同用途的线圈绕组,转子固定在主轴上,其上设置多个转子磁块。若在主轴上增加输出端并改变结构设计,本装置可变成磁能发动机。

You can get professional patent translators to do the proper patent translation.  I shall only do a layman/scientist version that cannot be used in Law Courts.

 

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