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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #5295 on: February 12, 2010, 07:01:40 PM »
Quote from: ltseung888 link=topic=2794.msg227538#msg227538 A=1265834660
The explanation from the Bedini Website http://johnbedini.net:
Should be interesting to explain the operation of this 10 Coil battery charger from the Lead-Out Energy Theory.

Let me make a number of assumptions which may or may not be correct with regard to my understanding of the Bedini 10 Coil battery charger.  If incorrect, I may need to think more and modify the following explanation.

Assumptions:
1.   The Coil has soft iron.  To avoid the strong attraction by the magnets at start up, each coil faces two magnets.  One magnet has N pole and the other has S pole.
2.   Each Coil has both the function of Drive Coil and Collector Coil.  The Coil Windings would reflect that.
3.   The sensing mechanism can be in one coil only.  That can trigger the pulse to all the 10 coils. The same explanation should work if there were 10 separate sensing mechanisms – each controlling one Coil.

Explanation of the Operation:
1.   The Wheel is placed vertically.  Thus both gravitational and electron motion (magnetic) energy can be lead-out.
2.   With a Pulled Pendulum by a horizontal force, the gravitational energy lead-out can be calculated to be approximately 50% of the supplied horizontal energy.  If the force were always tangential to the radius, the figure can be 67%.
3.   With the non-constant speed rotation of the wheel in a magnetic field, the lead-out energy can be much higher.  This is due to the fact that the magnetic field can produce an acceleration much more than 9.8 m/s/s and that the direction of the magnetic field was not just vertical.
4.   The wheel was effectively accelerating and decelerating in its rotational motion.  The acceleration was due to the Pulsing.  The deceleration was due to friction, air resistance and external load (include charging of batteries) drawing energy out from the wheel. 
5.   The acceleration cycle gained its energy from the supplied electrical energy PLUS the lead-out gravitational and electron motion energy.  The total effective Input Energy is this sum and would enter the Wheel system. 
6.   If the wheel were not rotating too fast, this combined Input Energy would enter the Wheel system totally.  If the wheel were rotating too fast, only part of this energy would enter the system and a lower efficiency would result.  Thus the blind quest for higher rotational speed is detrimental to efficiency.
7.   Since the two magnets facing the Coil have N and S pole, the combined effective force would be A-B where A and B are the effective forces pushing and pulling the magnets.  One is attraction and one is repulsion.  This is the reason why the device only has an efficiency of 23% when used as a motor when energy is extracted from the axle.
8.   In this device, the energy was extracted from the Coil. The Coil acts both as a Drive Coil and a Collector Coil.  Even though the Input Power is from a Battery (DC), the extracted Output will have both AC and DC components.  The DC Pulse Current would send current in one direction.  The induced current due to the NSNSNS arrangement would be in both directions.
9.   Even if the rotational speed were too fast, some gravitational and electron motion (magnetic) energy would be lead-out.  This energy, after rectified to totally DC, could be significantly higher than the supplied Input DC Energy from the battery.
10.   Thus the recharging of batteries can take place.  The Output Energy not only can recharge the original source battery but also many secondary batteries.
11.   The charging of the secondary batteries is unlikely to be 100% because the Output Voltage and Current would not be high enough.  The Pulse Charging would also change the properties of the batteries.  The battery life might be less.  Some characteristics would change.  I experienced that in the Tong Wheel.


The above is my first attempt using the Lead-Out Energy Theory to explain the operation of the Bedini 10 Coil battery charger.  I shall have a chance to meet Mr. John Bedini face-to-face in China in the near future.  We shall discuss the above as an alternative explanation to his extracting zero point energy.


I shall try to suggest possible improvements to his 10 coil battery charger in a future post.


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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #5295 on: February 12, 2010, 07:01:40 PM »

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« Reply #5296 on: February 12, 2010, 09:18:54 PM »

The above is my first attempt using the Lead-Out Energy Theory to explain the operation of the Bedini 10 Coil battery charger.  I shall have a chance to meet Mr. John Bedini face-to-face in China in the near future.  We shall discuss the above as an alternative explanation to his extracting zero point energy.


I shall try to suggest possible improvements to his 10 coil battery charger in a future post.


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You know;
It should be possible to convert a raw 10 coiler Bedini machine
kit into machine compatible with a ten magnet Tong wheel.
One would scrap the Bedini circuitry and wire in the tuning switches
for the drive/recovery coils for a 4-6 10 magnet Tong machine
or some such. He isn't extracting ZPE. There are four different
OU processes going on in the Bedini machine. I think the above
Tong conversion would work because of the increased mechanical
efficiency of the Bedini designed hardware. Maybe Bedini could
try it for you.

Charging a battery bank is not a very good or economical
demonstration of overunity energy production. You both
need to create a self runner with minimal onboard battery
storage, with adequate capacitors so that the input and
output voltmeters don't bounce around so much, too bad
if that seems so difficult.

:S:MarkSCoffman

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« Reply #5297 on: February 13, 2010, 06:23:55 PM »
In the Tong Wheel, how do you choose the magnet and coil pair?  How do you estimate its theoretical Input and Output?

We used the Dr. Raymond Ting test.  The magnet was placed inside a vertical tube wounded on the outside with the coil.  The number of turns and the gauge of the wire would be the same as those used on the wheel.  The same voltage (12V) was used.  We then measured the height reached.

Our samples used on the first Tong Wheel was calculated as follows:
(1)   Mass of Magnet = 200 gms or 0.2 kg
(2)   The height reached = 1 meter
(3)   The potential energy gained by the magnet is thus = mgh = 0.2x9.8x1 = 1.96Newton-Meter or 1.96 joules. This value is the experimental best for a magnet and coil pair interaction
(4)   The resistance of the Coil was 5 Ohms.  The wire was 0.5mm gauge and about 600 turns of 2 cm diameter.
(5)   The Energy supplied by the current = I*V*t= I *I*R*t = V*V*t/R where t = time of Pulse, V = voltage, I = current, R = resistance

From the above, the best theoretical pulse energy supplied per coil and magnet interaction = 1.96 joules.  We have 10 drive coils.  The total best theoretical energy supplied per Tong Wheel Pulse = 1.96 x10 = 19.6 joules.  The rotational rate of the Tong Wheel was 300 rpm maximum or 5 cycles per second.  Thus the best theoretical energy supplied per second = 19.6 x 5 = 98 joules per second or 98 watts.

From the Lead-Out Energy Theory, if the supplied horizontal energy to a pendulum is 100 units, the lead-out vertical gravitational energy can be approximately 50 units.  If the pulse force were always tangential, the lead-out vertical gravitational energy can be approximately 67 units.  In the case of the magnetic field, the leading-out of magnetic energy can be in multiple directions.  This means that a rotating magnet will lead-out energy NOT just from the vertical field but more or less continuously.  So long as the rotation of the Tong Wheel is not constant (accelerate and decelerate because of extraction of energy due to friction and external load), each magnet would lead-out magnetic or electron motion energy.  The exact improvement in performance has not been calculated at this point.  (See note 1.)  Let us use the extremely conservative figure of 50%.  This means that the lead-out energy per second = 50% * 98 watts or 49 watts.

The total effective Input energy per second = supplied energy + lead-Out energy = 98 +49=147 watts.
If there were no loss, the maximum output energy from the Tong Wheel can be 147 watts.  We are only getting 2-3 watts measured output on the meter.  There is much improvement that can be done.


Note 1:  From experimental measurements on the Tong Wheel, the best COP (output/input power) was 4.2.  Much of the energy such as friction, noise and air resistance losses was not captured by the Collector Coils at the Output.  It is believed that the improvement due to the multi-directional, fluctuating and non-uniform magnetic field could be much more than 50% - could even be over 500% (as COP = 4.2 were observed).  If we use the figure of 500%, the Tong Wheel should be able to produce 98*500% = 490 watts.)

Note 2: The best jumping magnet and coil pair we tried hit the ceiling of the Industrial building.  That could be close to 3 meters.  The goal of the Tong Wheel was to demonstrate overunity.  We did not select the best jumping configuration.  The better height was achieved easily with 24 V (two batteries in series.)

Note 3: The 225 HP Pulse motor has a diameter of 1 meter.  It has four 24 V batteries.  There were 9 slices or 9 discs.  The Tong Wheel used only one slice and only 1 magnetic pole was used.  With two or more slices put adjacent to each other, there may be the additional flywheel effect and the possibility of using both poles.

Note 4: When we understand the above more, we can produce a spreadsheet to play with the various assumptions.  But from the preliminary calculations, producing a 300 watt output unit now and a 5KW unit later is theoretically possible.

Note 5: Due to the rectangular magnet design used in the present Tong Wheel, we could not do the Dr. Ting test.  We shall reconsider the use of circular magnets as the 225 HP Pulse Motor also used them.  In addition, once we achieved loopback (part of the Output feedback to Input), the concept of COP will become meaningless.  On steady operation, there is no need for external Input Power.  COP will then be infinity.  The more meaningful measurement will be – the actual Output Power delivered.  That is expected to be load-dependent.


Note 6: We can assume the Input 12V battery on the 5 ohm resistor to be 0.1 seconds.  The energy was then V*V*0.1/5 = 12*12*0.1/5 = 2.88 watt-seconds or 2.88 joules.  This is comparable to the jumping height calculation of 1.96 joules.  Not all the electrical energy could be converted to jumping height potential energy as some will be converted into heat.

Note 7: If we assume the Tong Wheel can generate 490 watts, we can multiply that by 8 if we increase the voltage from 12 V to 96V.  If we use stronger magnets (say 600 gms that can jump 2 meters), we can increase that by a factor of 3*2.  That means the Output power can be  490*8*3*2  =23,520 watts.    This is more than the 25 HP estimated from one slice of the 225 HP Pulse Motor. (25*746 = 18,650 watts).   This implies that we may be able to use market available magnet and coil pair configurations to produce the 225 HP Pulse Motor!

*** The 300 watt output prototype we plan to build for the Shenzhen Inventor Show will use thick wires and up to four 24 Volt batteries.  The goal is no long to demonstrate Ouput Power greater than Input Power.  That has been demonstrated in the existing 60 ccm diameter Tong Wheel.  The new goal is to increase Output significantly. 

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
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« Reply #5298 on: February 13, 2010, 11:53:59 PM »
Dear Mr. Tseung:

Your explanation of the Bedini 10 Coil operation is much easier to understand and accept than the explanation from the Bedini Website.  It also brought out one important point previously not emphasized.

Magnetic or electron motion energy can be lead-out via pulsing a non-constant rotating wheel.

This fact can explain the workings of the Newman, Bedini, Adams and other pulse motors.  It also pointed to the importance of a larger wheel.  I am thinking in terms of extracting energy from the axle.  The speed of rotation and the actual torque will be important.  If the wheel has a larger diameter, the torque (tangential force time the radius) from the Pulsing can be very high.  If additional gravitational or electron motion energy can be lead-out, the wheel will turn faster.

The additional advantage is that there will be time for the lead-out energy process to complete.  The Pulse Force will have enough time to finish the acceleration (or impart the whole amount of energy) to the wheel.

This means that a wheel with larger diameter is preferred.  The criteria of the present 60 cm Tong Wheel was that it should be able to fit into the trunk of the average taxi in Hong Kong.  That may be good criteria for demonstration equipment.  For best efficiency, please consider a larger wheel.  A lorry can be used for transport. 

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« Reply #5299 on: February 14, 2010, 02:19:43 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq5r08eqgsk

We have now examined the Yu Oscillator in greater detail.  Here is my conversation with Mr. Cheung at the Hong Kong Invention Association.

Mr. Cheung: “Have you seen the Yu video.  It looks like he is also Chinese.  He is using a pendulum.  You claimed that gravitational energy can be lead-out via a pulled pendulum.  Does his device follow the Lead-Out Energy theory?”

Tseung: “When  the Lee-Tseung lead-out energy theory is applied to a pendulum, so long as there is tension in the string, gravitational energy can be lead-out.  The Yu Oscillator has no string.  However, it is the equivalent of an unbalanced wheel.  In our presentation slides, we already explained that the unbalanced wheel is equivalent to a pendulum.”

Mr. Cheung: “Can you explain it again using the Yu Oscillator as example?”

Tseung: “Let us take an unbalanced wheel with additional weight on the bottom.   If we pull the weight in the clockwise direction, when we let go, the weight will swing back in the anti-clockwise direction.  The behavior is exactly like that of a pendulum.  In our calculation of applying a horizontal pull to a pendulum, the lead-out gravitational energy is approximately 50% of the supplied horizontal energy.”

Mr. Cheung: “Are you claiming that gravitational energy is lead-out by the Yu Oscillator?”

Tseung: “Yes.  However, the supplied energy in the Yu Oscillator is not from a Pulse Coil.  It is from the Howard Johnson type actuator.”

Mr. Cheung: “Can stationary permanent magnets impart energy?”

Tseung: “There is a magnet at the tip of the moving rod.  This magnet can gain kinetic energy and move faster in a suitably configured magnetic  field.”

Mr.  Cheung: “Are you claiming that there are two mechanisms at work here.  One is the lead-out gravitational energy.  One is the lead-out magnetic energy from the actuator?”

Tseung: “That is my best understanding so far.”

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« Reply #5300 on: February 15, 2010, 03:30:42 AM »
The Yu Oscillator gaining kinetic energy when passing through the magnetic actuator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u3fOwkiM7U
The Howard Johnson magnetic actuator set up. 

An object can gain kinetic energy when it falls under the gravitational field.  A magnet should be able to gain kinetic energy when it moves under the influence of a suitably arranged magnetic field.  This does not violate any laws of Physics.

The Yu oscillator can gain kinetic energy when the magnet at the tip of the rod passes through the magnetic actuator set up.

Happy Chinese New Year of the Tiger.

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« Reply #5301 on: February 15, 2010, 06:02:16 AM »

Hello Mr. Tseung,

Congratulations to you and your team’s terrific work over there.

Inviting scientists to double check your results shows a great deal of honor on your part.

Your Correct, The Yu Oscillating Generator does not violate any laws of Physics.

Happy Chinese New Year !!!

Sincerely,
Howard Yu


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« Reply #5302 on: February 16, 2010, 01:27:17 AM »
Hello Mr. Tseung,

Congratulations to you and your team’s terrific work over there.

Inviting scientists to double check your results shows a great deal of honor on your part.

Your Correct, The Yu Oscillating Generator does not violate any laws of Physics.

Sincerely,
Howard Yu
The Yu Oscillator is unusual because the prototype was built with a large size – over 3 meters as a starter.  It is demonstrated as an oscillator or a pendulum at present.  However, there is Physics Laws forbidding it to be constructed as a large wheel.

If the device were in a wheel  form, there will be no need to reverse the magnets at the end of each swing.  The same magnetic pole will pass through the “Howard Johnson type actuator” at each rotation.  Kinetic energy can be gained.

The Yu device should also work when rotating in the horizontal position.  The leading out of gravitational energy will be zero.  But there is still the gaining of magnetic (electron motion) energy.  The gain can be via two mechanisms.  The first is the motion through the actuator.  The second can be the leading-out of magnetic energy in an appropriate magnetic field.  (e.g. David Hamel unbalanced magnetic rotation).

If the Howard Johnson type actuator works, the David Hamel type rotation of magnets in an unbalanced magnetic field should also work. (The late David Hamel was the inventor who claimed that he gained his knowledge from Aliens.)  One part of the Wang ShenHe device uses rotation of magnets in an unbalanced magnetic field.

Once we understand the above, we can replace the actuator with magnetic coil repulsion at the right time.  That is essentially the Tong Wheel!  It can be seen quite clearly that the larger the diameter of the wheel, the greater will be the torque (Torque = tangential force x radius).  The speed of rotation can be faster because there is enough time for the Pulsing Force to impart all its energy into the system.

Energy can be extracted from the axle.  From simple mechanics, the torque should be the same.  The energy from the axle is related to the torque and the rotational speed.  We can now increase both easily.  (The lack of understanding of the existing engineers is their not knowing Lead-Out Energy.)  Once they understand Lead-Out Energy, they can easily tune the diameter of the wheel, the magnitude and frequency of the Pulse Force and the rotational speed.  They can easily adjust that to suit the external load.

Lead-Out energy theory wins again in the case of the Yu Oscillator.  When a theory works in all the cases applied, it has to be right.  When it can be derived from the well-tried Parallelogram of Forces, it cannot be wrong.  Now we have the Tong Wheel open to all scientists for double checking and verification in Hong Kong.  Lead-Out Energy Theory will become Law.

If Lead-Out Theory is correct, mankind can lead-out gravitational, electron motion and other forms of non-polluting, readily available, inexhaustible energy to use.  Fossil Fuels will become history.

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« Reply #5303 on: February 16, 2010, 02:09:00 AM »
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If Lead-Out Theory is correct, .....

PIGS can fly!

cheers
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« Reply #5304 on: February 16, 2010, 06:47:12 AM »
PIGS can fly!

cheers
chrisC
other than being juvenile, what purpose does your continual chanting of the same thing serve?

this thread is like pavlov's bell to you isn't it little doggie? it's so cute how you conditioned yourself... ::)

you truly are a pavlov's dog.

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« Reply #5305 on: February 17, 2010, 01:37:03 AM »
Conversation with Mr. Chung

Mr. Chung is another freeenergy device inventor in Hong Kong.  He is a member of the Hong Kong Invention Association and volunteers there from time to time.

Chung: “Can you tell me more about the Conference in China in April?”

Tseung: “I do not know the details.  I did receive phone calls from Rasa and the organizer.  From their phone calls, I believe the conference is a by-invitation only event.  The invitation goes to those inventors with a demonstrated device.”

Chung: “Who are the inventors beside you and Bedini?”

Tseung; “I believe one of the inventors has a motor-generator similar to the one shown in the overunity forum http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3764.msg224349#msg224349”

Chung: “Do you mean the Witts.ws fuelless generator?”

Tseung: “Yes.  But the inventor is Chinese in China?”

Chung: “Do you think that a motor-generator could work theoretically?  If that were true, have all our electrical engineers been stupid?  All our electrical motors were designed wrong?   It is hard to believe?”

Tseung: “Once power is supplied to start the motor, the motor can provide pulse force to a pulse motor.  A belt type arrangement can provide the non-constant speed rotation (accelerate and decelerate rotational motion).  That pulsing action can lead-out electron motion energy similar to the Tong Wheel.  The Tong Wheel works both theoretically and practically.  The motor-generator should also work theoretically.  I have heard and read about it multiple times.  I shall see and touch a working prototype in the conference.”

Tseung: “The existing engineers are not stupid.  They just have not learned about the Lee-Tseung Lead-Out theory.  I predict that hundreds of fuelless machines will be designed within weeks after the Hangzhou Conference.”

Chung: “Can you tell me more about the Hangzhou City Government?  What makes them so brave to host a free-energy conference when the mainstream science has not embraced it yet?”

Tseung: “I believe the chief organizer was a retired senior person from the Chinese Space Program.  He has a few working, demonstrated prototypes that showed overunity.  He was very interested in my Lee-Tseung Lead-Out energy theory as it explained the workings of these prototypes.  He mentioned that he already receive initial funding, land and factories.  He plans to set up a research center.”

Chung: “Do you think the Central Chinese Government endorses such an event?”

Tseung: “I spoke to Lee Cheung Kin.  His opinion is that the Central Chinese Government is giving much autonomy to the local governments.  He mentioned the debate in Beijing where the Senior Officials discussed whether they should control all new technology.  One of the key arguments against central control was – China developed the gun powder.  The Emperors forbid the civilians to develop weapons.  The result was neo-slavery in the 18-20 Centuries.  Will any Senior Official shoulder the blame for that to happen again?”

Chung: “But the Hangzhou City Government is supporting A research openly.  Will they be ridiculed?”

Tseung: “When they have the Lee-Tseung Lead-Out Energy Theory to back up a couple of working prototypes, there is zero risk.  The first conference is by invitation only – the inventors will bring working prototypes.  They can control the publicity.”

Chung: “They can videotape and edit.  If the result is not favorable, they do not need to announce it.  If things go well, they can easily do another and use the videos for publicity.  Very clever.”

Tseung: “They know that my posts in the Overunity forum will not get the Worldwide Publicity but they will serve as a daily record of what happens.”

Lawrence Tseung
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« Reply #5306 on: February 17, 2010, 10:58:04 AM »
Learning from the Bill Muller design

Rasa got my attention to the work of the late Canadian Inventor Bill Muller. http://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/construciton-of-muller-type-motor-generator

The Bill Muller design of having a rotor of permanent magnets sandwiched between two discs of stator Coils is interesting.  It uses both poles of the magnet compared with our using only one pole In the Tong wheel.  It has advantage in a one disc design but may not be as efficient on a multiple disc set up such as the 225 HP Pulse Motor.

The Bill Muller design is different from the Tong Wheel in not having the magnet and coil as pairs; the magnets are arranged as NSNSNS and not NNNNNN.  However, the 16 magnet Tong wheel can have 32 coils.  This will greatly increase the tuning flexibility.  If we use the axle as primary output energy source mechanism, we potentially have 32 drive coils.  We may even angle the magnets and the drives coils to achieve maximum torque. (Or used curved magnets).

This can be one more possible improvement to the Tong Wheel.  The chance of getting a 300 watt output Tong wheel is getting better.  The chance of a 5KW Tong Wheel is no longer a dream.

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« Reply #5307 on: February 17, 2010, 08:36:43 PM »
Learning from the Bill Muller design

Rasa got my attention to the work of the late Canadian Inventor Bill Muller. http://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/construciton-of-muller-type-motor-generator

The Bill Muller design of having a rotor of permanent A sandwiched between two discs of stator Coils is interesting.  It uses both poles of the magnet compared with our using only one pole In the Tong wheel.  It has advantage in a one disc design but may not be as efficient on a multiple disc set up such as the 225 HP Pulse Motor.

The Bill Muller design is different from the Tong Wheel in not having the magnet and coil as pairs; the magnets are arranged as NSNSNS and not NNNNNN.  However, the 16 magnet Tong wheel can have 32 coils.  This will greatly increase the tuning flexibility.  If we use the axle as primary output energy source mechanism, we potentially have 32 drive coils.  We may even angle the magnets and the drives coils to achieve maximum torque. (Or used curved magnets).

This can be one more possible improvement to the Tong Wheel.  The chance of getting a 300 watt output Tong wheel is getting better.  The chance of a 5KW Tong Wheel is no longer a dream.

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Discussion with Tong

Tseung: “Have you seen the Bill Muller arrangement?”

Tong: “Yes.  It uses both poles of the magnet.  But why is it not pulsing to provide the largest possible torque?”

Tseung: “I do not believe Muller knew the Lee-Tseung Theory.  He was experimenting with no theoretical guidance and hoped to get the result by hit and miss.”

Tong: “He would have been called a crack pot by the ignorant scientists or friends.  They would say that he was trying to violate the Law of Conservation of Energy.  They would not believe in his results.”

Tseung: “We can use his sandwich arrangement.  However, our pulsing will be via our paired magnets and coils.  We shall try to get output energy from the axle this time.”

Tong: “We are at an advantage now.  We have the theory to guide the development.  We also have a working prototype demonstrating Output greater than Input to silence all critics.  They are welcome to bring their equipment to double check.  Our task now is to improve efficiency and output.”

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #5308 on: February 18, 2010, 02:07:42 AM »
Conversation with Lee Cheung Kin

Lee: “Happy Chinese New Year.  I read your posts on the Internet.  Looks like you will visit the beautiful city of Hangzhou soon.”

Tseung: “I look forward to that.  As the number one genius of the world, would you like to bring any message to the conference participants?”

Lee: “The focus of the conference should be on the Lee-Tseung Lead-Out Energy Theory.  Discuss the theory thoroughly.  Then apply it to every overunity device available there.  Do you know what devices will be available yet?”

Tseung: “I do not.   But we can speculate from the known data.  My list includes:
1.   The Tong Wheel (confirmed)
2.   The Bedini 10 Coil (confirmed)
3.   A motor-generator similar to the Witts.ws device (confirmed)
4.   A Chas Campbell  type device (electricity magnifier)
5.   The Chao Car (possibly with the Liang IC engine)
6.   The Wang Electricity Generator
7.   A hydrogen or Brown’s Gas type device
8.   The energy from Still Air device (my decision)
9.   A flux change no-motion device”

Lee: “We can explain and improve all these with the Lee-Tseung Lead-Out Energy Theory.  What about the pendulum devices?”

Tseung: “I shall mention the Milkovic and the Howard Yu oscillator.”

Lee: “Those can be easily explained and improved by the Lee-Tseung Lead-Out theory too.”

Tseung: “There is a chance that we shall discuss the anti-gravity devices as well.  That would include the inertia propulsion devices.”

Lee: “Tong will love to show his jumping tubes.”

Tseung: “I shall take your advice.  Focus and relate everything to the Lee-Tseung Lead-Out Energy Theory.  I expect that there will be hundreds of suggestions on how to improve existing overunity devices from the innovative participants.  The World will benefit from this conference.”

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #5309 on: February 18, 2010, 11:48:05 PM »
Possible agenda for the Hangzhou Conference

Some assumptions:
1.   All inventor participants have a demonstrated prototype.  Thus the videos can be distributed before the conference.
2.   There will be actual working models showing Output greater than Input.  There will be opportunities for participants to double check the experimental results.
3.   Some published background information such as the Race to Zero Point, A Machine to Die For videos, the Patrick Kelly book, the various free Energy discussion forums will be sent as background material.  Many youtube videos will be downloaded and made available to the participants in China.
4.   The proceedings will be recorded but may or may not be published.

My suggested agenda would be:
1.   Introduce the Organizers and the goals of the Conference
2.   Have a tour of the facilities and a brief demonstration of the various working overunity devices
3.   The theoretical sessions: Lead-Out Energy Theory
4.   The theoretical sessions: Zero Point Energy
5.   The presentation of the various working prototypes by the inventors
6.   Detailed double checking of the experimental results of the various working prototypes (some may even be disassembled and reassembled.  Examples include the Tong Wheel and the Bedini 10 Coil)
7.   Discussion sessions on possible improvement on each working overunity device
8.   Decision on what to reveal to the outside world
9.   Action items (co-operation, funding, additional conferences, open to public,  etc.)

I am sure that the Hangzhou City Government will be proud.  Hangzhou may become the Mecca of Lead-Out Energy devices.  The many prototypes will soon become major tourist attractions.  Many other cities will follow and copy.  Many inventors will be invited on Country or World tours.  The Educational Product Versions are likely to be funded and produced quickly in multiple Countries.  The physics and electrical engineering textbooks and courses will be updated.  The  World will benefit together.

 

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