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Freezer · « **Reply #495 on:** October 10, 2007, 05:07:27 AM »

Quote from: ltseung888 on October 10, 2007, 03:15:12 AM

Quote from: Freezer on October 09, 2007, 11:54:02 AM
Quote from: Mr.Entropy on October 09, 2007, 03:45:56 AM
It's OK that timing is important, but "resonance" is not a time. At what time can a pulse be applied to a pendulum so that you get more energy out than you put in?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r003GmW4ZrM

Dear Freezer,

I love your video. If possible, can you produce one with a punch bag and show:

(1) A little boy punching it. It hardly moved.
(2) The same little boy pushing it like a swing. The multiple pushes will increase the amplitude of the swing.
(3) Let the swinging punch bag hit a dummy (use a dummy to avoid hurting the little boy. Or you may find a special actor).

Thank you.

Lawrence Tseung
The experiment done by the naugthy Tseung 50 years ago Leads Out the use of infinite gravitational energy for Mankind.

Closest I could find

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uY77ffkgo4&mode=related&search=

This guy seems to think he can get more out than in from this pendulum motion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_XVuMdSro4&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgnxMqVAFKM

shruggedatlas · « **Reply #496 on:** October 10, 2007, 05:22:24 AM »

Quote from: Freezer on October 10, 2007, 05:07:27 AM

Quote from: ltseung888 on October 10, 2007, 03:15:12 AM
Quote from: Freezer on October 09, 2007, 11:54:02 AM
Quote from: Mr.Entropy on October 09, 2007, 03:45:56 AM
It's OK that timing is important, but "resonance" is not a time. At what time can a pulse be applied to a pendulum so that you get more energy out than you put in?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r003GmW4ZrM

Dear Freezer,

I love your video. If possible, can you produce one with a punch bag and show:

(1) A little boy punching it. It hardly moved.
(2) The same little boy pushing it like a swing. The multiple pushes will increase the amplitude of the swing.
(3) Let the swinging punch bag hit a dummy (use a dummy to avoid hurting the little boy. Or you may find a special actor).

Thank you.

Lawrence Tseung
The experiment done by the naugthy Tseung 50 years ago Leads Out the use of infinite gravitational energy for Mankind.

Closest I could find
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uY77ffkgo4&mode=related&search=

Now I understand. It is Lead Out energy that make Kung Fu strong.

In all seriousness, the proposed test is ridiculous. Of course the bag will knock the little boy or stand-in dummy back. Unfortunately it will tell us nothing about whether any energy was lead out, or whether the knock-back is merely the result of the many pushes.

ltseung888 · « **Reply #497 on:** October 10, 2007, 07:11:17 AM »

Quote from: Mr.Entropy on October 10, 2007, 04:01:28 AM

Quote from: ltseung888 on October 10, 2007, 03:29:05 AM
If I am not mistaken, you have concluded that the first pulse does not add more energy that you put in.

No, that's what you said. I said "why not a punch", and you said "periodically repeated", implying that one punch won't do. If one pulse will do, then, again, what is it about a punch that doesn't qualify as a "pulse" that leads out gravitational energy?

Thank you, Mr. Entropy. Now we focus on the question whether a punch qualifies as a pulse in the Lee-Tseung theory.

My simple answer is NO. NO. NO, NO and NO.

The reasons are:
(1)   To Impart energy to a swing and to Lead Out gravitational energy, we must allow the String of the Pendulum to move/swing and gradually increase its tension. During this gradual increase, the Law of Parallelogram of Forces can be applied. It is the application of this Law that Leads Out gravitational energy. No energy should be wasted on collision sound or deformation of the sand or similar material inside the punch bag.

(2)   In punching the punch bag, the force is applied quickly. The rate of change of momentum is intended to be as fast as possible. (In Physics terminology: Force is the rate of change of Momentum.) We want the punch to exert the maximum force on the opponent! The sand or similar material in the bunch bag will deform to absorb the energy. The best punch is that the String barely moved.

(3)   If the punch is very slow - to become a push, the String of the Punch bag will move. The Punch bag system then simulates a Pendulum. (Pushing a person is very different from punching a person.)

Hope the reasons are clear.

@Freezer,

In Kung Fu, we want the opponent's organs to deform to "absorb our energy". The evil intention is to destroy his muscles and/or organs and not to push him away.

Freezer · « **Reply #498 on:** October 10, 2007, 07:34:08 AM »

Does it relate to tossing a bowling ball? Surely most of us couldn't throw a bowling ball that far, but if we slowly build up momentum we can launch it fairly fast. Its hard to think of something similar that relates to daily life.

I think whats happening in the kung fu video is similar. The guy can't immediately force the weight to move, he has to build up the momentum in order to move the weight at the end. I wasn't concentrating on the impacting of the bell.

Quote from: mramos on October 10, 2007, 03:51:29 AM

For the OU believers, Newton said, if nothing else, for every action there is a reaction. We work from there.

Watch at 7:40. Exception to the rule?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZMzHTERr-E&mode=related&search=

ecc · « **Reply #499 on:** October 10, 2007, 08:25:08 AM »

Bruce DePalma et al discovered in 1974 that a spinning steel ball would show different rates of rising and falling when accellerated upwards or falling downwards compared to a non spinnig ball.

In 1977 he wrote a paper: "Understandig the Dropping of the Spinning Ball Experiment" which says in conclusion:

>The availability of free energy from as simple an experiment as colliding a rotating object with a non-rotating one opens up the development of other machines for energy extraction and propulsion which may be more convenient to handle than the extraction of energy from the collision of a rotating object with a non-rotating one. <

link: http://depalma.pair.com/SpinningBall(Understanding).html

Lawrence, do you think this matches with your theory?

Cheers

ecc

ltseung888 · « **Reply #500 on:** October 10, 2007, 09:10:18 AM »

Quote from: ecc on October 10, 2007, 08:25:08 AM

Bruce DePalma et al discovered in 1974 that a spinning steel ball would show different rates of rising and falling when accellerated upwards or falling downwards compared to a non spinnig ball.

In 1977 he wrote a paper: "Understandig the Dropping of the Spinning Ball Experiment" which says in conclusion:

>The availability of free energy from as simple an experiment as colliding a rotating object with a non-rotating one opens up the development of other machines for energy extraction and propulsion which may be more convenient to handle than the extraction of energy from the collision of a rotating object with a non-rotating one. <

link: http://depalma.pair.com/SpinningBall(Understanding).html

Lawrence, do you think this matches with your theory?

Cheers

ecc

Dear ecc,

Your post is very relevant. In the Lee-Tseung theory, an unbalanced rotation with axle in the horizontal direction is regarded as an extension of the pulsed pendulum.

It will Lead Out gravitational energy in a similar way as the pulsed pendulum.

If we imagine putting a small weight on a previously balanced wheel, when the small weight goes up, it will try to decelerate the wheel. When it comes down, it will try to accelerate the wheel.

The Pulse is then 1 per revolution. The Pulse rate is then rotational speed dependent. We can Lead Out more gravitational energy!

If this pulse is produced by a moving wieght instead of a stationary weight, the arrangement is similar to the Bessel Wheel, the Chas Campbell and other gravity over unity inventions. There is a fixed frequency relationship in order to achieve the over unity phenomena.

I shall wait until the discussion on the desk top pendulum toy finishes before starting this one.

Lawrence Tseung
Spinning objects, especially unbalanced rotation, can be considered as Pulse (periodic repeatable) Leading Out gravitational energy.

Forever · « **Reply #501 on:** October 10, 2007, 11:22:05 AM »

I 'm with Mr. Tseung and we discussed what is the best device to demonstrate the lead out theory.

Probably the best device is the "ideal" pulse motor. This ideal pulse motor is effectively one slice of the 225 HP pulse motor developed originally in USA. Since it is an already proven and demonstrated device, the risk will be relatively low. If we develop it as a pure academic exercise to illustrate the Lee- Tseung Theory with no financial benefits, we should not run into patent lawsuits.

Please see the description of the pulse motion in http://forum.go-here.nl/viewtopic.php?t=84

When we have a working pulse motor generating approximately 20 HP forever, there will be little doubt on the validity of the Lee-Tseung Theory. I?m sure Mr. Tseung will be talking about the theory while some of you are building it. I do not expect success at the first try. However, I expect much fun.

ecc · « **Reply #502 on:** October 10, 2007, 01:52:36 PM »

Lawrence,

I found some more information which may be related and in of support your theory, at least in my understanding. Quotes are from David Wilcock's ''Divine Cosmos".

First more to the DePalma experiments:

>Data of Dr. Bruce DePalma?s Spinning Ball Experiment from Hoagland?s 1992 UN Briefing
A perfect example of harnessing torsion waves by rotation was discovered completely independently by Dr. Bruce DePalma.... Within a complete vacuum, DePalma took two steel balls and catapulted them into the air at equal angles, with an equal amount of force. The only difference was that one ball was rotating 27,000 times per minute and the other was stationary. The rotating ball traveled higher into the air and then descended faster than its counterpart, which violated all known laws of physics. The only explanation for this effect is that both balls are drawing energy into themselves from an unseen source, and the rotating ball is thus ?soaking up? more of this energy than its counterpart ? energy that would normally exist as gravity, moving down into the earth. With the addition of torsion-field research we can see that the spinning ball was able to harness naturally spiraling torsion waves in its environment, which gave it an additional supply of energy.<

The Russsian researcher Dr. N. A. Kozyrev developed extremly sensitive detectors for Torsion fields, for example a spinning gyroscope suspended from a vibrating string. The influence of and/or change in the torsion field - Lead In ? - would upset the balance of the detector.

>Furthermore, without any knowledge of Kozyrev?s work, in 1989 G. Hayasaka and S. Tekeyuchi discovered similar weight-loss effects with rotating 150-gram gyroscopes, and more recently obtained success by dropping the gyroscopes between two precision laser beam detectors. (Remember that a gyroscope that is being weighed in a rotating and non-rotating state will not show any measurable weight changes unless an additional process is introduced such as vibration, movement, (in this case dropping,) heat conduction or electric current transition.) The results of Hayasaka et al.?s study, conducted on behalf of the Mitsubishi corporation, actually did make it into the mainstream media, surprisingly enough. Furthermore, they did indeed attribute their results to the effects of torsion fields. Many other researchers such as Dr. S.M. Polyakov, Dr. Bruce DePalma and Sandy Kidd have independently discovered gravitational changes with gyroscopes, but it appears that most of them have not fully understood the fluidlike nature of the aether, which always travels in the spiraling movement of torsion waves.<

Further confirmation of the Lead In - Lead Out theory? What are your thoughts?

Cheers

ecc

ltseung888 · « **Reply #503 on:** October 10, 2007, 02:50:43 PM »

Dear ecc,

Thank you for the additional information. I am extremely confident of the Lee-Tseung theory because it leads naturally to the development of the Flying Saucer.

See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNR0hgqFnw4

I am reasonably certain that both China and USA know the Lee-Tseung patents and have been working on them since at least 2005. The UFO that appeared in Nanjing, China in August 2006 is likely a man-made object along our patents.

The early concepts of anti-gravity has already been turn into working prototypes.

Regards,
Lawrence Tseung

Freezer · « **Reply #504 on:** October 10, 2007, 03:18:32 PM »

Quote from: ltseung888 on October 10, 2007, 02:50:43 PM

Dear ecc,

Thank you for the additional information. I am extremely confident of the Lee-Tseung theory because it leads naturally to the development of the Flying Saucer.

See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNR0hgqFnw4

I am reasonably certain that both China and USA know the Lee-Tseung patents and have been working on them since at least 2005. The UFO that appeared in Nanjing, China in August 2006 is likely a man-made object along our patents.

The early concepts of anti-gravity has already been turn into working prototypes.

Regards,
Lawrence Tseung

The U.S. military has been working of UFO technology since the 1940's. Most of which was started by Hitlers scientists.

Nasa provides us with great UFO videos, you should have a look at the film "The Case for NASA ufos," on google.

Some clips -

This one slows down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pawTzpNKW4

You can see these pulsing in a fibonacci curve wave pattern.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox6BtwDmm3c

This one appears from thin air.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBA7zaB9ZKw

Ralph Ring and Otis Carr built a flying saucer decades ago, piloted by thought and brainwaves.

Interview with Ring -

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8949307179416464163&q=project+camelot&total=69&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=7

shruggedatlas · « **Reply #505 on:** October 10, 2007, 04:21:16 PM »

Quote from: ltseung888 on October 10, 2007, 07:11:17 AM

[My simple answer is NO. NO. NO, NO and NO.

The reasons are:
(1)   To Impart energy to a swing and to Lead Out gravitational energy, we must allow the String of the Pendulum to move/swing and gradually increase its tension. During this gradual increase, the Law of Parallelogram of Forces can be applied. It is the application of this Law that Leads Out gravitational energy. No energy should be wasted on collision sound or deformation of the sand or similar material inside the punch bag.

(2)   In punching the punch bag, the force is applied quickly. The rate of change of momentum is intended to be as fast as possible. (In Physics terminology: Force is the rate of change of Momentum.) We want the punch to exert the maximum force on the opponent! The sand or similar material in the bunch bag will deform to absorb the energy. The best punch is that the String barely moved.

(3)   If the punch is very slow - to become a push, the String of the Punch bag will move. The Punch bag system then simulates a Pendulum. (Pushing a person is very different from punching a person.)

That's interesting, because in the go-here forum, you say:

Quote

How to Pulse:

One example is the Adam flow nemo?s Pulse Motor described on this same section of this forum. It uses the term Drive Coil to indicate that Current is passed to the Coil to change it to have Electromagnetic Properties. The central disc has permanent magnets and the interaction of the Drive Coil and the permanent magnets will cause rotation of the disc.

It uses the term Pickup Coil to indicate that electricity can be induced when the inner disc with permanent magnets rotates.

The Drive Coil and the Pickup Coil can be the same coil. (e.g. Newman motor) They can be different. (e.g. 225 HP Pulse Motor).

There can be different arrangement of the Magnetic Field. The Adam flow nemo?s Pulse Motor using disc with permanent magnets inside and small coils on the outside facing each other. The Newman Motor has rotating permanent Magnets totally inside one large Coil.

The Adam flow Nemo?s Pulse Motor can rotate upto 4,000 rpm. If two Drive Coils pulse to rotate the disc, the number of pulses per minute is effectively 8,000.

You you seem to think that 8000 pulses per minute (with each pulse being 1/133 of a second) is a way to lead out energy. How is a pulse that is 1/133 of a second in duration any different from a punch?

ltseung888 · « **Reply #506 on:** October 10, 2007, 08:22:26 PM »

Quote from: Freezer on October 10, 2007, 03:18:32 PM

The U.S. military has been working of UFO technology since the 1940's. Most of which was started by Hitlers scientists.

Nasa provides us with great UFO videos, you should have a look at the film "The Case for NASA ufos," on google.

Some clips -

This one slows down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pawTzpNKW4

You can see these pulsing in a fibonacci curve wave pattern.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox6BtwDmm3c

This one appears from thin air.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBA7zaB9ZKw

Ralph Ring and Otis Carr built a flying saucer decades ago, piloted by thought and brainwaves.

Interview with Ring -

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8949307179416464163&q=project+camelot&total=69&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=7

Dear Freezer,

I enjoyed the interview with Ralph Ring video. It took over an hour. There were not much technical data but I am not worried. I believe the Lee-Tseung theory and knowledge of the working 225 HP Pulse Motor will get us there.

It confirmed that someone in USA worked on the Flying Saucer with some success. The USA Military wanted to keep it a secret. It explained why some posts here were scientific junk trying to discourage work in this area.

The good thing is that China now knows how to build the Flying Saucer. In my case, it started with a 13 year old girl, Ms. Wini Woo. All she did was to point out to me that the effective gravitational constant can be zero or negative. The change in effective gravitational constant can be demonstrated easily with the Ms. Forever Yuen experiment. I have already outlined the theory. It is a matter of who will build it for the benefit of the World. (The top-secret research establishments have already build it.)

Lawrence Tseung
The Ralph Ring Video confirmed and Lead Out the fact that the USA Government already know how to build the Flying Saucer. We are only playing the catch-up.

ltseung888 · « **Reply #507 on:** October 10, 2007, 08:43:48 PM »

Quote from: shruggedatlas on October 10, 2007, 04:21:16 PM

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You you seem to think that 8000 pulses per minute (with each pulse being 1/133 of a second) is a way to lead out energy. How is a pulse that is 1/133 of a second in duration any different from a punch?

Punch = pass energy to another object. May even damage it.
Pulse (Lee-Tseung) = pass and lead out energy into same system. Make sure no harm is done.

hansvonlieven · « **Reply #508 on:** October 10, 2007, 10:38:02 PM »

G'day all,

The idea of driving a motor with pulses is nothing new, in fact it is common technology. With the popularisation of electric hand drills in the 1960's there was a demand to have a drill with variable speeds as the mechanical gear boxes allowed only for two speeds, any attempt to add more gears resulted in an unwieldy device that became quite useless because of its weight and dimensions.

Before I get into how it was done in the end I better explain how these drills work, for those of you that are unfamiliar with the technology.

An electric hand drill has an AC/DC motor that drives it. As such it employs brushes, anchor windings and so forth, unlike pure AC motors which do not have brushes but rely on the 50 or 60 Hz phase supplied by the grid. AC/DC motors were chosen because of their superior torque.

At first it was tried to add a rheostat into the circuit, which slowed the motor down alright, but decreased the torque to such an extend that the drill was next to useless except for some applications that did not require high torque or large speed variations such as dental drills and sewing machines.

In the 1970's someone had a smart idea, which was soon taken up by industry and is now standard. Instead of choking the current into the machine with a resistor, pulses were fed into the motor instead. Developments in the semiconductor industry allowed for a circuit that could feed the full power of the battery or grid into the motor in short, variable bursts instead. Although there was a decrease in speed, the torque remained largely intact.

No-one has ever reported any gain in ENERGY with these device.

Hans von Lieven

shruggedatlas · « **Reply #509 on:** October 10, 2007, 11:46:20 PM »

Quote from: ltseung888 on October 10, 2007, 08:43:48 PM

Quote from: shruggedatlas on October 10, 2007, 04:21:16 PM
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You you seem to think that 8000 pulses per minute (with each pulse being 1/133 of a second) is a way to lead out energy. How is a pulse that is 1/133 of a second in duration any different from a punch?

Punch = pass energy to another object. May even damage it.
Pulse (Lee-Tseung) = pass and lead out energy into same system. Make sure no harm is done.

You are using circular reasoning. I am asking you what are the characteristics of a pulse that leads out energy. You are saying in essence is that a pulse that leads out energy is a pulse that passes and leads out energy.

Damage is merely a factor of how strong the objects are relatively. In the desk toy example, one pendulum does not damage the other. The impact is brief, similar to the 1/133 of a second in the example you bring up, so I fail to see the difference.

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